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ElWilson
What would be the best for applying fo further U.S education (at postgrad)?
Both LSE and UCL have a four-year program with Columbia, at the end of which you emerge with an LLB and a JD (US postgraduate degree). Still, though, I would pick LSE as it's viewed as more academically rigorous (in the States).
littleheadache
Both LSE and UCL have a four-year program with Columbia, at the end of which you emerge with an LLB and a JD (US postgraduate degree). Still, though, I would pick LSE as it's viewed as more academically rigorous (in the States).
As more academically rigorous or more prestigious? There's quite a difference...
To be blunt, I had never heard of UCL until I was applying to law schools and had already been at St Andrews for 2 years. LSE is the only one of the two that I had heard of. I presume US graduate schools would view LSE as more prestigious (which translates to academic rigour) simply because it's better known.
Maybe - but actual academics know a lot more about the field and institutions than students. Very few people would know about Salford in the UK or elsewhere in the world... but it is one of the few courses in the country with a 6* rating for research and the only one with it in Audio Acoustics and leads a great deal of the world in that little area.
In general, very few American students seem to know about many universities outside of the USA. I'm fairly sure academics would be much better read on the area.
St Andrews has a (relatively) "worse" law course compared to quite a few unis, UCL included, but picks up some kind of fame because of a golf tournament and because some pomp with little intelligence trialled around there for a few years on a relative doss course.
In general, very few American students seem to know about many universities outside of the USA. I'm fairly sure academics would be much better read on the area.
St Andrews has a (relatively) "worse" law course compared to quite a few unis, UCL included, but picks up some kind of fame because of a golf tournament and because some pomp with little intelligence trialled around there for a few years on a relative doss course.
littleheadache
To be blunt, I had never heard of UCL until I was applying to law schools and had already been at St Andrews for 2 years. LSE is the only one of the two that I had heard of. I presume US graduate schools would view LSE as more prestigious (which translates to academic rigour) simply because it's better known.
To be fair, I never heard of LSE myself until I got round to looking at an overseas education in the UK.
Oxbridge IMO is in an entirely different league.
President_Ben
St Andrews has a (relatively) "worse" law course compared to quite a few unis, UCL included, but picks up some kind of fame because of a golf tournament and because some pomp with little intelligence trialled around there for a few years on a relative doss course.
St Andrews has a (relatively) "worse" law course compared to quite a few unis, UCL included, but picks up some kind of fame because of a golf tournament and because some pomp with little intelligence trialled around there for a few years on a relative doss course.
St. Andrews doesn't have a law department.
bryan
St. Andrews doesn't have a law department.
Well, St Andrews is generally 'teh suX0rs'
Compared to many other places.
President_Ben
St Andrews has a (relatively) "worse" law course compared to quite a few unis, UCL included, but picks up some kind of fame because of a golf tournament and because some pomp with little intelligence trialled around there for a few years on a relative doss course.
Firstly, St Andrews does not offer a law degree. Secondly, it is a world-renowned university for many subjects (including mine-- International Relations). Thirdly, don't slate something you don't know enough about.
I'd never heard of LSE until I started looking into Universities and I live about 40 minutes train journey from it. I've known about UCL for a long time.
LSE seems to be much more of a niche university which focuses only on Social Sciences essentially. That's all very well and good but it does mean that you are unlikely to get as much variety in the people going there. It's good that everybody around you is doing a course in a similar area to you but I think I'd go mad if I was surrounded by just lawyers for three years. Please nobody try and argue with me and start whining "but there's lots of people in London for you to make friends with".
If you are wanting to get a good job in this country (as no doubt most people will) UCL probably just pips it for prestige but going to either will put you in great stead for a career. It's just up to you to decide which you prefer.
LSE seems to be much more of a niche university which focuses only on Social Sciences essentially. That's all very well and good but it does mean that you are unlikely to get as much variety in the people going there. It's good that everybody around you is doing a course in a similar area to you but I think I'd go mad if I was surrounded by just lawyers for three years. Please nobody try and argue with me and start whining "but there's lots of people in London for you to make friends with".
If you are wanting to get a good job in this country (as no doubt most people will) UCL probably just pips it for prestige but going to either will put you in great stead for a career. It's just up to you to decide which you prefer.
littleheadache
Firstly, St Andrews does not offer a law degree. Secondly, it is a world-renowned university for many subjects (including mine-- International Relations). Thirdly, don't slate something you don't know enough about.
That's why Stan Drews is lost and in the middle of nowhere in any international league table? Whatever your view of league tables, they manage to filter the difference between world class and "Stan Drews"
fools... it's like arguing over spilt milk. A complete waste of time.
Theyre both good.
Think of it in the opposite way, there can be NO disadvantage at choosing one over the other, hence there is no advantage gained by choosing one rather than the other.
If you really want to study law you must realise there are better questions to ponder about.
However, on a very shallow level.. the girls are cuter in LSE so I would edge that way. I should know, Im at UCL jk
Theyre both good.
Think of it in the opposite way, there can be NO disadvantage at choosing one over the other, hence there is no advantage gained by choosing one rather than the other.
If you really want to study law you must realise there are better questions to ponder about.
However, on a very shallow level.. the girls are cuter in LSE so I would edge that way. I should know, Im at UCL
jkHey!! Im in the same situation as you!! I think they are about equal, however my law tutors have said that LSE is more specialised and well known for its social sciences (hence the name London School of Economics and Political Science!!) I personally have switched back and forth between the both of them!! Speaking to my friend who is at LSE studying economics (slight bias, I know!!) said that generally UCL's strengths are the sciences?? Obviously all their departments are fantastic but it is more well known for sciences. Which one are you goin to choose??
Rubbish. UCL's law faculty is just as strong as its sciences. :hmph:
Wings_cp
the girls are cuter in LSE
You have no taste. At all.
UCL's major three departments are Economics, Law and Medicine.
Wings_cp
However, on a very shallow level.. the girls are cuter in LSE so I would edge that way. I should know, Im at UCL jk
jk
Yeah right! LSE girls are generally speaking dull and unattractive, and as Ben said, you obviously have no taste!UCL girls are much nicer, more diverse, interesting and aren't solely obsessed with their work, ie. they have lives outside of the academic circle.
Angel Interceptor
they have lives outside of the academic circle.
Yep. Sex lives (for a start)
lolza
Speaking to my friend who is at LSE studying economics (slight bias, I know!!) said that generally UCL's strengths are the sciences?? Obviously all their departments are fantastic but it is more well known for sciences. Which one are you goin to choose??
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