[Peggles_*]

(Original post by sleep99)
I'm not buying that excuse personally. Spurs won their first game after Redknapp's court case/Capello resignation 5-0 vs. Newcastle, then were 2-0 up vs. Arsenal and imploded. The rest you know about...

Exactly.
So if anything, the Sp*ds have Arsenal to blame for their failings

[Chrisofsmeg]

I really don't understand why nobody seems to be giving any thought to Stuart Pearce. He's a good manager. He's been with England with the U21s for ages and he's done a decent job there. At least until after the European Championships.

I mean, it's not like we're going to win them or anything, so what the **** does it matter who's in charge until we're in a position where installing a manager wont create massive upheaval?

[scriggy]

(Original post by Deshi)
The same man that managed 33 points in 18 games compared to Woys 25 in 20 with the same team?

Or compared to Kenny's 26 points from his last 20 games after spending a **** load of money?

[Clip]

(Original post by sleep99)
I'm not buying that excuse personally. Spurs won their first game after Redknapp's court case/Capello resignation 5-0 vs. Newcastle, then were 2-0 up vs. Arsenal and imploded. The rest you know about...

No, you're right. It's just an excuse, really.

Our position for the majority of the season was kind of a default due to the rubbishness of Chelsea and the Arse for most of the season. When they picked up, we began our inevitable slide. Had their form stayed the same, we would only have had to deal with the mighty surprise package that it Newcastle.

And if Harry does end up going - anyone thinking that Pards would be a good replacement....sadly I can see him doing the exact same.

[The Rusty Spork]

(Original post by WhatTheFunk)
What is bad about fans who support small clubs from league 2 and below going off to support their national side on the world stage?
People support England from all backgrounds, from Man U fans down to fans of clubs in level 10 of the league system. The Media cause most of the trouble the fans just want to have fan and support their country

Gerrard has put in a few good games but it time for newer younger players to stand up, we can't keep playing the same Hollywood ball players

There is nothing bad about them doing it but it is how they do it that is the small time mentality.

I think Liverpool as a city has always felt quite seperate from the rest of the country so it is probably why generally we feel we owe the country bandwagons no loyalty for the sake of loyalty.

[f1mad]

(Original post by scriggy)
Or compared to Kenny's 26 points from his last 20 games after spending a **** load of money?

Exactly.

L'pool fans never cease to amaze me .

[Clip]

(Original post by Mess.)
Most of the players used by Dalglish during the second half of last season were players signed by Benitez and the Hodgson ones were ignored

I have no reply to that. Paul Konchesky has no business near anyone's team.

[checkolad]

Your'e all happy it's annoying the Liverpool fans now but when it all goes pear shaped you'll be asking for his head.

[Deshi]

(Original post by scriggy)
Or compared to Kenny's 26 points from his last 20 games after spending a **** load of money?

All that tells me is that Dalglish is crap in the transfer market, not who the better manager is.

[jam277]

(Original post by lol_this)
liverpool fans: offended by everything, ashamed by nothing. Just talk about their history, hates other fans talking about their club harshly, but likes to talk about other clubs harshly.

I bet Kenny wouldn't even get the scotland job. he's only a lfc manager because of his status and deluded lfc fans cannot see that he is poor. all they have to protect him is mickey mouse cup and status

and lets not forget £35m carroll - hardly plays him.

Look at Di Matteo. his team went through against barca - torres sealed their place in the final, and scored a hat-trick. carroll misses a sitter.

lets hope hodgson does a better job at England, and see how lfc fans will react.

Thank you!!!

[WhatTheFunk]

(Original post by Mess.)
There is nothing bad about them doing it but it is how they do it that is the small time mentality.

I think Liverpool as a city has always felt quite seperate from the rest of the country so it is probably why generally we feel we owe the country bandwagons no loyalty for the sake of loyalty.

How is it a small time mentality? They are fans of football who during the summer go on to support the national side. These fans can't all bandwagon Man U or Liverpool, they support teams who really have no hope of reaching the highest heights and they know this. Fans of clubs from Isthmian League know it will be a long time before they can think of league football let alone league 1 or championship football
It is also small time mentality for Man U fans to support that national side

[The Rusty Spork]

(Original post by WhatTheFunk)
How is it a small time mentality? They are fans of football who during the summer go on to support the national side. These fans can't all bandwagon Man U or Liverpool, they support teams who really have no hope of reaching the highest heights and they know this. Fans of clubs from Isthmian League know it will be a long time before they can think of league football let alone league 1 or championship football
It is also small time mentality for Man U fans to support that national side

I don't think you quite understand what I mean about small time mentality, so it is perhaps easier to just leave this rather than clog the thread up

[Deshi]

(Original post by lol_this)
liverpool fans: offended by everything, ashamed by nothing. Just talk about their history, hates other fans talking about their club harshly, but likes to talk about other clubs harshly.

I bet Kenny wouldn't even get the scotland job. he's only a lfc manager because of his status and deluded lfc fans cannot see that he is poor. all they have to protect him is mickey mouse cup and status

and lets not forget £35m carroll - hardly plays him.

Look at Di Matteo. his team went through against barca - torres sealed their place in the final, and scored a hat-trick. carroll misses a sitter.

lets hope hodgson does a better job at England, and see how lfc fans will react.

Whose dupe are you?

[xDave-]

This obsession with getting one of the (terrible) English managers is going to put us on course for another Steve McClaren tournament.

[f1mad]

(Original post by Deshi)
All that tells me is that Dalglish is crap in the transfer market, not who the better manager is.

.

".. 26 points from his last 20 games.. " is very bad, considering how he is some sort of glorified figure to a lot of L'pool fans.

Why don't you just admit his time is up, then we can all move along.

[bluenose14]

I can see it now. It will only take a poor performance or two until the press start saying that Redknapp should have the job. If he couldn't control the dressing room at Liverpool then he won't have much hope with England imo. He doesn't strike me as someone who the egos would be afraid to cross.

I do like him though and would love him to succeed but I just can't see it.

[bluenose14]

(Original post by xDave-)
This obsession with getting one of the (terrible) English managers is going to put us on course for another Steve McClaren tournament.

What Steve Mclaren tournament?

[Deshi]

(Original post by f1mad)
.

".. 26 points from his last 20 games.. " is very bad, considering how he is some sort of glorified figure to a lot of L'pool fans.

Why don't you just admit his time is up, then we can all move along.

You're assuming I rate Dalglish really highly as a manager atm....I don't. I just rate Hodgson very lowly.

Anything else?

[f1mad]

(Original post by Deshi)
You're assuming I rate Dalglish really highly as a manager atm....I don't. I just rate Hodgson very lowly.

What constitutes "Dalglish" as being the better manager?

He spent a **** load and got nothing of real value in return. Being able to select the correct players, in a transfer market, is all part of the game as a manager.

If Hodgson had been mandated that sort of money, and messed it up, you may have had a point. But as it stands, not really.

Hodgson didn't too well at L'pool, that's true. But he's working wonders at West Brom.

[Liverpool 0-1 WBA]

(Original post by Deshi)
You're assuming I rate Dalglish really highly as a manager atm....I don't. I just rate Hodgson very lowly.

All the best to Roy for England. Anyone who beats Liverpool at Anfield is a great guy in my eyes. Thanks for helping us become a stable premier league club. Proved he is a better manager then Kenny and proved his doubters wrong.

I would like Hughton, Martinez or Lambert to replace Roy. Maybe Pep as a outside bet.