Sexism In Night Clubs

I agree with most people on here that it's degrading to girls and unfair on guys. Nevertheless, to all the guys complaining about women choosing when they want equality, I hope you understand that the decision to have a 'girls go free' rule at some clubs is predominantly carried out by a male owner, not a female one. I think both sexes are responsible for making this an undesirable rule for a club to have by boycotting said clubs if they don't support the rule. The rule exists to generate more customers - if that's reversed, then the rule will become ridiculous and unattractive from a business perspective to have.

The rule exists to generate more customers - if that's reversed, then the rule will become ridiculous and unattractive

Maybe it's because on nights out women have to face constant flirting, or attempts at it, from ugly guys and are constantly being made to feel self aware and conscious as guys constantly stare at them and try to make moves, so just for that added pressure they deserve to get in for free.

I've noticed some clubs in Edinburgh offer free entry to girls. Infact someone on my facebook made a status about it which created a lot of discussion.

She was assured that this 'treated her as an object' and was unequal to her. Some other people posted on her status saying 'You get in for free, what are you complaining about?' and 'Take what you can get, life isn't cheap' etc.

Personally I think she totally ignored that was probably more sexist to men as they have to pay to get in.

What do you think? And have you noticed similar situations?

Also, do you think the whole 'night club scene' is degrading to women?

Discuss.

I didn't know degrading policies like that were still current, I thought they were more the preserve of gender-polarised environments like really posh clubs and Europe.

Women who choose to have integrity as a feminist will feel patronised. Men, on the other hand, should feel every inch the subject of sexual discrimination: not only do they have to pay on the door, they're also supposed to buy the girls their drinks inside!

Men shouldn't have to pay more than women for anything now that men's and women's earning potential has become equalised.

The only winners are those women who prefer to take advantage of society's current gender bias. Then again, I suppose, they do pay for it when in the club, as clubs like this are likely to be full of the sort of men who hassle them inveterately.

Maybe it's because on nights out women have to face constant flirting, or attempts at it, from ugly guys and are constantly being made to feel self aware and conscious as guys constantly stare at them and try to make moves, so just for that added pressure they deserve to get in for free.

You know that this reasoning is idiotic. Don't act the white knight online, it won't get you anywhere.

I've noticed some clubs in Edinburgh offer free entry to girls. Infact someone on my facebook made a status about it which created a lot of discussion.

She was assured that this 'treated her as an object' and was unequal to her. Some other people posted on her status saying 'You get in for free, what are you complaining about?' and 'Take what you can get, life isn't cheap' etc.

Personally I think she totally ignored that was probably more sexist to men as they have to pay to get in.

What do you think? And have you noticed similar situations?

Also, do you think the whole 'night club scene' is degrading to women?

Discuss.

The only winners are those women who prefer to take advantage of society's current gender bias. Then again, I suppose, they do pay for it when in the club, as clubs like this are likely to be full of the sort of men who hassle them inveterately.

I've been clubbing many times and I've witnessed first hand how for women a night out can be a lot more of a challenge than it is for a male. If I was a woman I would think 'why should I pay to get constantly leered at and groped' and it's a ****ing valid reason to let them in for free, even if it isn't the genuine reason that clubs do it.

The women really aren't getting in for free anyway. They'll be paying a ****load on cocktails and spirits+mixers

Not if they take advantage of their generous situation and manage to get guys to buy it for them.

That happens to be a lot of women unfortunately.....

Don't see why this makes it less sexist?



Women will generally go out regardless. I won't argue that it won't attract MORE women, but the need for equality outweighs any arguments about profitability.

One of the four clubs I was mentioning is owned by a female.

In this system, the male will always win in the end. Capitalism takes the commodities and spits them back out when they are no use. Once she gets old and looses her youth and gets worn out because of booze, drugs, etc she's of not much use to the club anymore. They'll just get some fresh meat in there. No man wants a haggered club slut.



Free entry for women and not for men promotes excessive alcohol consuption amongst women, turns them and sex into a commodity and can send a dangerous message to women and makes men look like trouble and potential predators. I mean I saw a group of women throwing up all over an small independent shop yesterday and they were literally on the floor, ruining and making a mess of the city. I don't feel sorry for these women. All the white knighting is pathetic.

Alcohol related accidents involving women are high, violence and anti-social behaviour involving women are high, more people are being sent to hospital with alcohol related problems which can have long term implications.

Make women pay like everyone else. Times have changed. More women are graduating from university these days and are earning more than their predecessors have, in some cases they earn more than the man. The women really aren't getting in for free anyway. They'll be paying a ****load on cocktails and spirits+mixers


If women don't like being groped then they should speak with their feet and money. Maybe real difference would be made. Chivalry sucks, is sexist and it should die.

Wtf does that mean? Honestly, explain what you meant by your feet and money line because to me it makes no sense. Just stop being such a equality tool, it's just boring to hear how you think chivalry is stupid, to me that's just a sad indictment of the mindset of many of today's over read and unjust youth, who feel that they have to oppose something just for the sake of it. Don't tell me, you think that there should be an equal pressure on women to protect men and you feel that the existence of mens only sports is sooooo sexist?

Precisely as I said, the rule is predominantly carried out by a male owner. Even if it was a reliable representation of the male:female club owner ratio, a 75% implementation of the rule by men certainly shows that it's not mostly women causing guys to suffer this inequality, it's mostly other men.

That is a brilliant word which many people seem to use and I'm glad you did instead of trying to generalise. Instead you're trying to sweep the whole issue away. Regardless of which sex creates the inequality, it is still an inequality to men. Doesn't change anything.