[Jordan_1]

(Original post by Dark Horse)
They stop replying because you probably aren't pelting them with WK phaggotry.

Huh, elaborate?

[Dark Horse]

(Original post by Jordan_1)
Huh, elaborate?

WK = white knight.

Basically a white knight is a male who just showered women with compliments and devotes his time to validating her and giving her ego boosts. On dating sites it appears to be the kind of behavior the vast majority of them are after.

But don't do it. You've been warned.

[Jordan_1]

(Original post by Dark Horse)
WK = white knight.

Basically a white knight is a male who just showered women with compliments and devotes his time to validating her and giving her ego boosts. On dating sites it appears to be the kind of behavior the vast majority of them are after.

But don't do it. You've been warned.

Ahh I see now. Yes, I think you may be right!

[TranceEnergy1989]

(Original post by RealCrazyBliter)
It's good in principle but a lot of stringing along and attention seeking goes on. You've probably heard this one 'Need someone to come warm me up/hold me/spoon with me' as her bbm/fb status. Do yourself a favour and delete her.

Away from being bitter :P...my experience is pretty good on both PoF and OKCupid up to phone numbers but getting to meet is almost impossible when just about everyone assumes the worst thing could happen IRL when you do meet. 'Yeah but I don't even know you and blah blah blah'. Well no **** but that's how you meet new people!

Oh man the bit in bold! story of my life!

I too get this a lot...if you move too slowly you end up in the friendzone..i have found out from past experience.
If you move too fast you tend to get that answer but you need to act fast or you will probably end up friendzoned if you are talking for months and months.

Besides i don't get why girls want to wait sooo long, i have known girls that have taken 6 months to meet up and nothing happens because were 'friends' by then.
Some even a year or so.

One i have been talking to since like 2008 and we still havent met up! lol it's a joke!

I do not see the point of longing it off...yeah you don;t know the person fair enough but as you said...you get to know them..if you meet a guy straight up you can quickly gauge if you like them or not and if not then you havent wasted eachothers time.
Talking for months and months and then being told you are just mates when you meet up gets me so pissed off it's unreal.

I met a girl after a week of talking (rare!) and she didnt like me in the end...i was annoyed but would of been moer so if we had talked for months and that happened.

Girls logic:

Random guy bumps into you on the street = all good too meet again, even though you know nothing about him..it's fine.

Random guy from the internet asks you to meet (but you know he is genuine..facebook pictures, webcam, phone calls etc) = meeting up is not really acceptable because you met on the 'net'..could takes months to years to meet up if at all.

Flawed logic..not everyone online is an axe murderer...you could be missing out on something great all because you happened to meet online instead of on the street.

An example...im currently talking to a girl from Barnet..i never, ever would of bumped into her in my entire life...the internet opens so many doors!

[jblackmoustache]

(Original post by TranceEnergy1989)

Besides i don't get why girls want to wait sooo long, i have known girls that have taken 6 months to meet up and nothing happens because were 'friends' by then.
Some even a year or so.

Two weeks is the rule in the online dating world. If you haven't met by then (and she doesn't live very far) then you're chances of meeting get slimmer and slimmer. It's not that hard to organise a quick coffee in a cafe after work or something. Not many girls have family or work commitments that are THAT harsh

I wouldn't maintain any online relationship past that to be honest. It's just lame. I believe you CAN'T even be friends unless you've met in real life.

[Spontogical]

(Original post by jblackmoustache)
Two weeks is the rule in the online dating world. If you haven't met by then (and she doesn't live very far) then you're chances of meeting get slimmer and slimmer. It's not that hard to organise a quick coffee in a cafe after work or something. Not many girls have family or work commitments that are THAT harsh

I wouldn't maintain any online relationship past that to be honest. It's just lame. I believe you CAN'T even be friends unless you've met in real life.

If you're talking specifically about online dating, then you probably have a point. For me though, I was speaking to someone on TSR from July 31st 2010 - October 2010; we met up in October and May respectively and have been happy ever since.. It just depends on the individual tbh. Though in about 2 weeks you should be able to tell whether the person likes you or not.

[ANM775]

with online dating you need to get girls out on a date within a week.

don't listen to girls who say they are not comfortable meeting yet and want to wait 2+ weeks in order to meet. what will likely happen is that things will fizzle out before then ...or it will get close to meeting time and they will go quiet in messages. once i wasted 3 weeks on a girl (who said to me she wernt ready to meet, and i waited till she said she was ready, then as the time came near she stopped answering messages) ...and i was so pissed off that i had wasted 3 weeks of my time on some timewaster that i vowed not to let it happen again and to not bother with girls who want to wait too long.

the next girls i went on dates with, i made sure to move quickly and get them out in under 1 week.

im sorry but there is alot of time wasters on that site, and alot of competition, so you need to get the girls out quickly.

there was one girl who i was talking to who when i asked to come out said she was too busy with uni work and that it would be over 2 months till she could meet. i immediately stopped all correspondence with her. don't fall for bull**** or let people waste your time, because many girls will if let them, and actually have no intention of meeting and are just on there to massage their own ego.

[ANM775]

I would also agree with one or two posters here who have said that if you are not a good looking white male then online dating probably wont be really all that worthwhile for you, as online the girls will go for the good looking white male near enough every time over any other race. yeah they might say, no race doesn't matter, i go for the person blah blah blah ...etc, but the reality of the situation online is that they'll usually end up going for the white dude.
I have spoken to many male friends who do online dating, and the reality is that my white male friends get significantly more messages replied to and sent to them than my male friends from other races (and yes, taking looks into consideration)


my good looking white friends got alot of messages, sent to and replied to, i remember one boasting about having a 1 in 3 reply rate.

my good looking indian friend could only get indian women to correspond with him, and he didn't get all that much messages either

my good looking chinese friend got worse results than my indian friend.

me, im black, maybe about a 7.5 in looks, got a message sent to me about once every 3 weeks on average. my responce rate to msg's sent out was utterly ridiculas .. definately over 1 in 50


the women who would send me messages tended to 90% of the time be grossly overweight women who had fetishes for black men and black men was all they date (yes it said things along these lines in their profiles)
the only decent women who sent me messages or added me to the meetme feature were still in their teens. im 25. dating an 18 year is not particularly appealing but it was either that or nothing .. so eventually i decided to give in and go on a date one of them...
eventually though i stopped online dating. all my non white friends were telling me its easier to attract decent quality women ofline as opposed to online.


i've tried attracting women in the following places: the street, bars, clubs, social circle.

the street is challenging. i think i am getting dubbed as a player. I've stopped doing street now.

bars - easier than street, but you still need to have some game to get anywhere with a pretty girl.

social circle - easier than bars. girls are much more open once they actually know you. you can literally just be yourself and not really put much effort in and sooner or later you'll start to get the vibe a girl in interested ..then it's a matter of manning up and asking them out.



my advice to anyone who is not having much luck with online dating is to either try bars, or start making more female friends... and then you'll eventually get to meet their female friends and then it's so much easier than if you were messaging them through an online dating site or trying to chat them up in bar/club.

[NB_ide]

(Original post by Anonymous)
Nearly everyone woman who has commented on here, or similar online dating threads or even on their profiles say they do not like one liners or really short messages, they do not work and you will not get replies

I don't care what women say they want. Either online or real life, what they say they want is usually far removed what actually interests and attracts them. This is so well known it's the subject of jokes and parody.

All I'm interested in is what actually works. Not what should in theory work, according to Disney films.

[NB_ide]

(Original post by TranceEnergy1989)
Oh man the bit in bold! story of my life!

I too get this a lot...if you move too slowly you end up in the friendzone..i have found out from past experience.
If you move too fast you tend to get that answer but you need to act fast or you will probably end up friendzoned if you are talking for months and months.

Besides i don't get why girls want to wait sooo long, i have known girls that have taken 6 months to meet up and nothing happens because were 'friends' by then.
Some even a year or so.

One i have been talking to since like 2008 and we still havent met up! lol it's a joke!

I do not see the point of longing it off...yeah you don;t know the person fair enough but as you said...you get to know them..if you meet a guy straight up you can quickly gauge if you like them or not and if not then you havent wasted eachothers time.
Talking for months and months and then being told you are just mates when you meet up gets me so pissed off it's unreal.

I met a girl after a week of talking (rare!) and she didnt like me in the end...i was annoyed but would of been moer so if we had talked for months and that happened.

Girls logic:

Random guy bumps into you on the street = all good too meet again, even though you know nothing about him..it's fine.

Random guy from the internet asks you to meet (but you know he is genuine..facebook pictures, webcam, phone calls etc) = meeting up is not really acceptable because you met on the 'net'..could takes months to years to meet up if at all.

Flawed logic..not everyone online is an axe murderer...you could be missing out on something great all because you happened to meet online instead of on the street.

An example...im currently talking to a girl from Barnet..i never, ever would of bumped into her in my entire life...the internet opens so many doors!

So true. IMO the best approach is to keep it fast and try to meet up early. If she freaks out, **** it - she's scared and always will be, and would be rubbish to get involved with, and by the time she would meet up (if ever) there'd be no excitement left, so it's not worth keeping these timid ones plodding along. Unless it entertains you chatting to them online, which is perfectly acceptable.

The best response when girls go nuts about omgomgomgIT'SNOTSAFETOMEETSUM1ID ONTKNOWLOLOLOL is to agree in a really exaggerated way. Like, "Oh yea, totally. When someone tries speaking to me in real life I give them my email address and insist that we talk online for several months before ever meeting again in person. Better safe than sorry!"

[Dark Horse]

There appears to be a retarded strategy the validation hunters use on these websites as well. And that is that they feign interest until you ask them out, and then refuse to give you a straight answer when you do, in a manipulative bid to bait you into repeatedly asking them and chasing them even more. It's just amazing that women prefer this kind of rubbish to actually being in a relationship and receiving regular, multiple orgasms. I blame the amount of WK phaggots there is to fuel this annoying fire.

I currently have a 33 year old woman (6/10 looks wise) doing this to me and I'm wondering what I could say her to get to be real again. Although I'll probably just piss her off before declaring that it was lovely speaking to her and wishing her luck. She mad?

[NB_ide]

(Original post by Dark Horse)
There appears to be a retarded strategy the validation hunters use on these websites as well. And that is that they feign interest until you ask them out, and then refuse to give you a straight answer when you do, in a manipulative bid to bait you into repeatedly asking them and chasing them even more. It's just amazing that women prefer this kind of rubbish to actually being in a relationship and receiving regular, multiple orgasms. I blame the amount of WK phaggots there is to fuel this annoying fire.

I currently have a 33 year old woman (6/10 looks wise) doing this to me and I'm wondering what I could say her to get to be real again. Although I'll probably just piss her off before declaring that it was lovely speaking to her and wishing her luck. She mad?

If they entertain you online, keep talking. Otherwise forget it. Or stop mentioning meeting up. If I suggest it, and they act gay and scared, I just don't mention it again and usually soon enough they bring it up, all like "heh lol dint u say u wer gon rape me soon btw?!?!"

And then you have the upper hand, and can perhaps fit them into your busy schedule if you wish.

[Dark Horse]

(Original post by NB_ide)
If they entertain you online, keep talking. Otherwise forget it. Or stop mentioning meeting up. If I suggest it, and they act gay and scared, I just don't mention it again and usually soon enough they bring it up, all like "heh lol dint u say u wer gon rape me soon btw?!?!"

And then you have the upper hand, and can perhaps fit them into your busy schedule if you wish.

More gambits and psycological ploys. Dating is so, so fun.

not srs

[ilcb]

i have used okc and as a girl i try and reply to all the messages i get, whether im interested or not - unless they overstep the line.
i dont flash my cleavage in any of my pictures and dont just consider people on how they look. honestly, i try to be up front about how i feel about the people who message me. i give everyone a chance and if they seem interesting, i'll carry on chatting, and possibly arrange something, if not, i try and politely end it.
not to sound conceited but i get a fair few messages, i dont know what the average for women on these sites, but i get around 10 a day. my experience when messaging men has been similar to what a lot of you guys say about messaging women. some just ignore me, others send me half arsed messages.
i just think the whole online dating system is awkward to be honest

[NB_ide]

(Original post by Dark Horse)
More gambits and psycological ploys. Dating is so, so fun.

not srs

like all human-human interactions, tbh. Any form of "business" is a huge game of clever tricks, subtle manipulations, threats and persuasions. It's terrible, but a lot of people love it. I can see it could be fun.

[Dark Horse]

(Original post by NB_ide)
like all human-human interactions, tbh. Any form of "business" is a huge game of clever tricks, subtle manipulations, threats and persuasions. It's terrible, but a lot of people love it. I can see it could be fun.

The only time the dating "game" is ever fun is when you don't really need/want to date. In this situation the opposite sex miraculously finds you irresistible. And this probably won't occur in online dating.

[Lucia.]

(Original post by Dark Horse)
actually being in a relationship and receiving regular, multiple orgasms.

As if...

Unlikely in my experience...Unlikely full stop...but possible on my own

(Original post by Dark Horse)
The only time the dating "game" is ever fun is when you don't really need/want to date. In this situation the opposite sex miraculously finds you irresistible. And this probably won't occur in online dating.

Too true.

[jblackmoustache]

Dating in general gets harder when you're a minority race and you're a guy depending on where you are in the UK.

I feel sorry for Asian dudes. They seem to have it way harder than us black guys unless they're 'model material' or some ****

[Lucia.]

(Original post by jblackmoustache)
Dating in general gets harder when you're a minority race and you're a guy depending on where you are in the UK.

I feel sorry for Asian dudes. They seem to have it way harder than us black guys unless they're 'model material' or some ****

Sad but true.

[Dark Horse]

(Original post by Lucia.)
As if...

Unlikely in my experience...Unlikely full stop...but possible on my own

Apparently most women say the same.

But in all honesty a woman's body is wired to enjoy sex more than a man's. For example men don't scream in pleasure even when they're at orgasm. Men can't have multiple orgasms and the head of the penis is not even half as sensitive as the woman's clitoris.

Source: bi-sexual porn stars.

And it's funny that if a couple are particularly good at pleasuring each other (I mean real pleasure, not going through the motions) then half the petty problems that seem to stifle relationships wouldn't even surface.