B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012
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Re: B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012
Nope. Unnecessary, arbitrary, simplistic, blunt. A 'points-based system' sounds snazzy but when you look into it there's no real need - assessing hospitals etc is far more detailed than just 1, 2, 3, 4... 10. There really would be absolutely nill point in changing, it just reflects a reluctance on the part of the SoS to learn and work with the current NICE-sponsored system. I'd appreciate it if the SoS at least attempted an explanation for his policy - why no notes?
Last edited by JPKC; 01-05-2012 at 23:10. -
Re: B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012
no.
healthcare, education, etc should not be about competing over simplistic ratings systems, they should be about providing the best service they can, and inspections should look at the big picture to improve all healthcare provision rather than it becoming like the awful disaster of School and University league tables. -
Re: B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012(Original post by DebatingGreg)
No notes? Probably a no.
On the Enforcement and Punishement section, where's the punishment?
Missed that bit out(Original post by Mr Dangermouse)
What exactly happens to low performing hospitals?
Low performing hospitals would have more frequent inspections, and would be expected to improve. If said hospital did not improve, then the healtcare facility would be placed under the control of a new official, who would be expected to turn the standards around.
Anyone who is concerned that efficiency is put before patient care, this rating system is based almost entirely on patient care standards, and is a big step towards improving patient care. -
Re: B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012Then how would said inspection be of any use without some sort of a system to adhere to when giving feedback?(Original post by WhatTheFunk)
not a fan of rating systems at all really, all for inspection from out side sources to make sure everything is running nice. But not rating them -
Re: B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012How? How? How?(Original post by Moleman1996)
Anyone who is concerned that efficiency is put before patient care, this rating system is based almost entirely on patient care standards, and is a big step towards improving patient care. -
Re: B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012rating categories are all based around categories that effect patient care, and the wellbeing of the patient. That is the keystone of this system, the standard of patient care.(Original post by JPKC)
How? How? How? -
Re: B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012The current system is built around patient well being. Why would this staggered alternative be better?(Original post by Moleman1996)
rating categories are all based around categories that effect patient care, and the wellbeing of the patient. That is the keystone of this system, the standard of patient care. -
Re: B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012
As J&T said above, this bill is pointless where consumers are more or less tethered to their healthcare provider in the case of GPs, and where there is no reasonable way of 'enforcing or punishing' hospitals which fall below the standard. Open up the market and people be able to discriminate their healthcare providers in a much more sophisticated and efficient way than some arbitrary ratings.
Nay. -
Re: B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012reports of improvement(Original post by Moleman1996)
Then how would said inspection be of any use without some sort of a system to adhere to when giving feedback?
rating stick in the mind too long, plus people only want to see and hear what they want to hear.
you only have to look at University one if Manchester uni falls down the table and Oxford Brooks rises people will still think Manchester is better
If a place stays at a low rating long enough it is hard to get rid of that view -
Re: B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012With the current systems, the rating is not easily understandable to the general public. Its overly complicated, and the facility can quite easily continue on with a poor rating.(Original post by JPKC)
The current system is built around patient well being. Why would this staggered alternative be better? -
Re: B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012Do you have any evidence that this is the case, or is it just your own belief? At the moment it just seems as if you don't understand the current system and can't be bothered to get to grips with it.(Original post by Moleman1996)
With the current systems, the rating is not easily understandable to the general public. Its overly complicated, and the facility can quite easily continue on with a poor rating. -
Re: B440 - Healthcare Ratings System Bill 2012For hospitals its rated Excellent, Good, Fair, Weak, Double Weak. But there is no real breakdown of results,a and other facilities are I believe rated differently. This brings in something that is universal, and a breakdown is very easy to see. It also makes it clearer what constitutes what, and to the general public, how far into said rating they are.(Original post by xXedixXx)
What's the current system?
Its far more complicated, so common sense indicates something easier to understand and see a breakdown of would be better. Im sorry it seems that way, but I must ask why you didn't voice your concerns when I first brought up the idea in the government sub forum a few weeks ago. At this point you were a part of the coalition and had ample amount of time to make your opinion known.(Original post by JPKC)
Do you have any evidence that this is the case, or is it just your own belief? At the moment it just seems as if you don't understand the current system and can't be bothered to get to grips with it.
Low performing hospitals would have more frequent inspections, and would be expected to improve. If said hospital did not improve, then the healtcare facility would be placed under the control of a new official, who would be expected to turn the standards around.