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Do you believe in The Pirate Bay? Are you Communist?

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  • View Poll Results: Are you in favour of or against illegal file sharing?
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    We currently live in society that believes it is okay to download copyright materiel.

    "I only download because it is easy and it prevents money going to huge companies that already have too much"
    I don't want to come across patronizing to people so let me put my argument forward. We live in a capitalism country meaning you pay for peoples(companies) work and they make a profit. If you do not like this then vote for communism government. It really is that simple. You see people grouping together over this issue trying to prevent it. If you design something you want to be paid for it. right?

    "I download films, shows, and games that are not released yet"
    That doesn't warrant you to download it illegally, why don't you petition for it to be released at the same time?

    "If I can get something for free with a minimal chance of being caught and with minimal effort then I will take it regardless."
    Is this the sort of thing we should be teaching are children? Shouldn't we be teaching them to live in a fair society? What happen to buying things and getting that fuzzy feeling?

    What you are doing is wrong because the life that has been built around you is based on rules passed by generations of your people. If you disagree with them then you need to ask your representative to put it forward.

    Why is it seen acceptable? Does the United Kingdom want to be a china in the making? You can't have it both ways.

    Sure there is loads of things we can do to prevent it, but do you want to regulator everything? Everyone complains about price of music, DVD, ebooks etc

    So would you be in favour of restricting the amount a company could make in profit?

    Discuss.

    @Neggers - downloading copyright material is wrong you know it.

    EDIT Ok for those people who think they found a loop whole on the so called "copy". Would it be wrong for you to go into HMV buy one DVD (say for example 2012) then have a market stand outside HMV giving away free copies of this DVD for free on USB?
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    (Original post by AgZarp)
    How does a single parallel drawn with China (not to mention a very abstract one) translate into communism?
    It use to be that people without money would go without. Now people are taking illegal approach to get materiel which they wouldn't have.
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    ZOMG op, you're such an ethical person :yes:. Good on you.
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    Communist China also blocks websites. I don't agree with piracy, but their are better ways than easily circumventable DNS blocks.
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    I am, in fact, communism.
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    Fail. You have missed out the important rationale of: "If I can get something for free with a minimal chance of being caught and with minimal effort then I will take it regardless."

    Most people are not interested in illegal downloads due to some ideological belief. Most people illegally download things because it's there for the taking. That's the long and short of it. You can attempt to argue that it's unfair on the artist who made the item, but the fact is that the people who illegally download it just couldn't give a flying ****.
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    People pirate PC games because gamers feel let down by awful ports from consoles which they don't think is worth paying for.
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    (Original post by FinalMH)

    So would you be in favour of restricting the amount a company could make in profit?
    Wouldn't that make it socialism?

    Personally, I would put limitations on the amount of subsidiaries each company may have and how many they may buyout within a time limit. "Piracy" happens on a local, national and international scale, I would Piracy illegal however I would not make drastic attempts to remove it (Ie, internet blocking). If they get caught then they will pay a reasonable fine.
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    (Original post by FinalMH)
    So would you be in favour of restricting the amount a company could make in profit?
    In short, yes, that is an aspect of communism.
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    (Original post by Genocidal)
    Fail. You have missed out the important rationale of: "If I can get something for free with a minimal chance of being caught and with minimal effort then I will take it regardless."

    Most people are not interested in illegal downloads due to some ideological belief. Most people illegally download things because it's there for the taking. That's the long and short of it. You can attempt to argue that it's unfair on the artist who made the item, but the fact is that the people who illegally download it just couldn't give a flying ****.
    The Artists get hardly any money anyways. My logical isn't false, most people don't think its wrong.
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    Keep downloading, no worries, be happy!
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    (Original post by FinalMH)
    The Artists get hardly any money anyways. My logical isn't false, most people don't think its wrong.
    Enough for a better living than most professions, why do they deserve more money?
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    Setting aside the contradiction associated with your use of the term "communist government" (uhh?), since when was it a case of everyone who opposes big business and idiotic profiteering automatically being a communist? You realise McCarthyism and the 1950s are over, right?

    But at any rate, here are some very firmly pro-capitalist, pro-free market people who are against what's going on re TPB:

    http://blog.mises.org/12499/all-thos...y-losses-bunk/
    http://blog.mises.org/5178/heroic-pirates/

    (This is the first and last time I will ever link to mises.org - I suddenly feel the need to sing the Internationale now )
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    See the rational choice theory of criminology.
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    I think that record companies need to adapt to the market instead of using their buddies in government to inflate their profits (on top of all the corporate welfare they receive) while they cover their ears and refuse that their business models are outdated.
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    Just like to point out that your thread title makes no sense, how can you be communism?
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    (Original post by Harpoon)
    Just like to point out that your thread title makes no sense, how can you be communism?
    Good point
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    That's Darth Communism, thank you.
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    Yes, I believe in The Pirate Bay. My namesake also made a song entitled Pirate Bay ooh such a coinky dink!

    I try and keep a 'Piracy Karma' when/if I do. (Do a naughty thing, pay it back with a good thing eventually. Concerts, gigs, merchandise, talk about them on social networks/to friends etc)
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    Apart from the latest films/games I don't fully understand the stance people have on illegal downloading...


    1. Most of the downloads of films/games are those that are only found in second hand shops. The ONLY people making money from second hand games are the companies which sell them, not the ones who produce them. And those companies are barbaric when it comes to second hand games... they have ridiculous markups on them. You no longer contribute to the artists/producers.

    2. There aren't many sites (legal) which give you access to the latest films and games. The ones i've used in the past were metaboli (games) and netflix (films) and both had an ok number of games but after a month you had run out of things to watch/play. Waste of money.

    3. I reckon most people actually either go to the cinema or buy the dvd as well as downloading the newer films. At least I do...

    I don't believe that the issue is to do with the people who make the films/games losing out on money, they have obviously coped pretty well up to now.... the issue is with the government wanting to tax us more.

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