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  1. Wildcard's Avatar
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    Re: Anyone else revising for the GDL...
    Is the structure of exams at BPP the same as CoL? I'm intrigued by what it involves. 7 modules, learning ~4 topics for each, a mix of problem sets and essays? Sounds pretty much like finals!
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    (Original post by Wildcard)
    Is the structure of exams at BPP the same as CoL? I'm intrigued by what it involves. 7 modules, learning ~4 topics for each, a mix of problem sets and essays? Sounds pretty much like finals!
    Well I'm currently revising for exams at CoL and its basically the 7 modules, 7 exams. Some exams have a mixture of essays and problems (there are guaranteed essays in Tort and Public), others are just problem questions (Equity & Trusts and Land). So maybe a little different in some areas from BBP? (I think the syllabuses may be a little different too - at any rate I've seen a reference to Secret Trusts and they haven't been covered at CoL).

    I also think for some modules only learning 4 topics might be risky, some of the questions that they come up deal with about 3 topics within a question. Though this could be paranoia, I've just terrified myself by looking at the Tort exam from last year where both the negligence questions were essay based. I hope that doesn't happen again.
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    Re: Anyone else revising for the GDL...
    At BPP EU is multiple choice computer-based exam and is done in February.

    Then the remaining 6 subjects are done in May and June.

    Land and Crime have no essays so it's possible to learn just 3 subjects (as they're relatively self-contained). Equity, Contract, Tort have 1 essay question as part of an exam of 7 questions, so revising 4 topics enables you to avoid the essay and do 3 problem questions. And then Con&Ad/Public you must do 1 essay but can then complete 2 problem questions.
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    You're doing 4 topics, so that's more than enough. Don't dilute your revision by doing more than that for tort.

    I'm doing defamation, nuisance, clinical negligence, and employers liability. I'll do whichever 3 come up as problem questions rather than an essay.

    (Original post by hmaus)
    Yeah it is enough and decent topic choices. I revised those ones + occupiers' liability and I didn't actually need that many. 4 is ideal and should give you enough safety if you hate 1 of your Qs or 1 is an essay.
    Thanks guys (Schott tried to rep but got PRSOM).... Think I was just having a last-minute worry, exams are getting too close now and are messing with me!
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    Anybody know an easy way to distinguish terms from misrepresentatios? Can't seem to get my head around it.

    As far as I understand, misrep induces the party into the contract but unlike a term it does not go to the root of the contract/was not intended to become part of it?
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    (Original post by positivevibes)
    Anybody know an easy way to distinguish terms from misrepresentatios? Can't seem to get my head around it.

    As far as I understand, misrep induces the party into the contract but unlike a term it does not go to the root of the contract/was not intended to become part of it?
    Whether a pre-contractual statement becomes a term or is a mere representation depends on a number of factors, including but not limited to:

    a) The importance attached to some particular state of affairs by one party - Bannerman v White. The more importance attached the more likely a statement in that area is to be regarded as a term.

    b) The greater the lapse of time between the making of the statement and the conclusion of the contract the less likely a statement is to be a term - Routledge v McKay

    c) Whether the maker of the statement has relevant expertise - if so then more likely the statement will be a term - Harold Smith v Dick Bentley c.f. Oscar Chess v Williams.

    d) Whether one party has taken responsibility for the truth of the statement, i.e. effectively warranted that it is true - Schawel v Reade, McRae v Commonwealth Disposals.

    e) Whether the contract is reduced into writing. Technically oral statements cannot be adduced as evidence when the contract is written - parol evidence rule (Jacobs v Batavia). However this rule is pretty easy to get around by either arguing that i) the contract is 'partly written and partly oral' - Evans v Andrea Merzario, ii) that there is a collateral contract (City of Westminster Property v Mudd). Whether the rule adds much nowadays except where there is an 'entire agreement clause' (Inntrepreneur v East Crown) is arguable. (If there is an entire agreement clause then pre-contractual statements are not terms but it seems like the courts are less willing to allow entire agreement clauses to effectively exclude liability for misrep).

    There might be other factors that I've forgotten. Hope that is of some use!
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    Thank you!!
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    (Original post by scribble_girl)
    …we got flowcharts instead of lecture slides (not sure if that's just the legend that is John Clifford, or everyone else gets them)…
    Yep. I'm a full-timer and we only have flowcharts as well (there were extra documents from time to time, but the flowcharts are king)!

    (Original post by scribble_girl)
    Contract, I'm focusing on Offer/Acceptance, Terms/Exclusion Clauses, Frustration (+ Breach), and Consideration/Promissory Estoppel. You?
    Misrepresentation, agreement, remedies, discharge and frustration. Is anyone taking the leap and only revising three topics? I'm wondering if I should cut one topic out to economise on the remaining time…

    Oh, and I haven't used the textbooks at all :eek:
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    Misrepresentation, agreement, remedies, discharge and frustration. Is anyone taking the leap and only revising three topics? I'm wondering if I should cut one topic out to economise on the remaining time…

    Oh, and I haven't used the textbooks at all :eek:[/QUOTE]

    Same! Don't worry.

    What do you think the policy is if we get a case name slightly wrong say for example instead of taylor v laird we put taylor v lord??
    I feel like inevitably this is going to happen!! Hopefully not with too many though.
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    I'm having a Contract day today.

    Bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored bored.
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    Re: Anyone else revising for the GDL...
    (Original post by positivevibes)
    What do you think the policy is if we get a case name slightly wrong say for example instead of taylor v laird we put taylor v lord??
    I read somewhere earlier today (might have been on the internal BPP revision message boards) that it's a sliding scale when it come to citing cases, and the general rule is to just put as much as you can and get it as correct as possible (i.e. spelling one word incorrectly might not be ideal but is still marked better than getting one party's name completely wrong).

    Oh, and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one ignoring the textbooks
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    (Original post by aspiretoesquire)
    I read somewhere earlier today (might have been on the internal BPP revision message boards) that it's a sliding scale when it come to citing cases, and the general rule is to just put as much as you can and get it as correct as possible (i.e. spelling one word incorrectly might not be ideal but is still marked better than getting one party's name completely wrong).

    Oh, and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one ignoring the textbooks
    ah cool, that's alright then.

    God I can't believe it's only the first one on Monday, I feel like Im not going to make it out of the next three weeks alive.
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    (Original post by positivevibes)
    ah cool, that's alright then.

    God I can't believe it's only the first one on Monday, I feel like Im not going to make it out of the next three weeks alive.
    Do the fulltimers have them spread over 3 weeks? Ouch. I've just got them all this week - Contract Monday, Tort Weds and C&A Friday. If I make it to Friday at 1.31pm alive I reckon I'm invincible :p:
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    (Original post by scribble_girl)
    Do the fulltimers have them spread over 3 weeks? Ouch. I've just got them all this week - Contract Monday, Tort Weds and C&A Friday. If I make it to Friday at 1.31pm alive I reckon I'm invincible :p:
    We have the same exams as you this week, then another week of revision and then land, equity and crime! Followed by the online case and statutory analysis test (although that isn't due until about two weeks after the crime exam)
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    Well contract was horrendous!!!
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    (Original post by positivevibes)
    Well contract was horrendous!!!

    Holy gods I effed that up beyond belief...

    It all started so well, think I nailed the first question I did... the second was kind of mediocre.. and the last one... the less said about that the better
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    Holy gods I effed that up beyond belief...

    It all started so well, think I nailed the first question I did... the second was kind of mediocre.. and the last one... the less said about that the better
    The biggest challenge for me is being able to process the situation as a whole so quickly! I guess that's part of the assessment but wow I've never had exam where I've run out of time like that....

    Onto tort!
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    (Original post by positivevibes)
    The biggest challenge for me is being able to process the situation as a whole so quickly! I guess that's part of the assessment but wow I've never had exam where I've run out of time like that....

    Onto tort!
    Or, in my case, onto Blackboard to read how an answer on Frustration is *meant* to be answered! /masochist

    Maybe getting on with tort is a better plan :p:
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    (Original post by positivevibes)
    Well contract was horrendous!!!
    I thought it went quite badly too. I think I underestimated just how many issues there were sometimes.

    It also takes a bit of skill to link up issues at the bottom of the problem with ones at the top. I could find and then say that, for example, there was a valid agreement at the top. Then get to the bottom again and to my horror find there wasn't. I ended up breaking the golden rule and doing it chronologically rather than issue by issue.
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    Has anyone currently at BPP been given any indication what the essay will be for tort? I haven't seen the revision lecture yet and tutors didn't give indications in class.

    Also same question for equity.
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