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    Welfare and Tax Reform Act 2012


    An Act to introduce a simpler, better welfare system and more sensible, while still progressive, tax system to cause less deadweight efficiency losses while ensuring all citizen's have a decent standard of living.


    BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:


    Part I: Welfare
    1 Other Direct Payments
    (1) All monetary payments from the state to an individual for reasons other than direct employment, government error or Funeral Allowance, other than outlined in this Act are ceased.
    (2) Free bus passes are no longer administered.


    2 Resident's Income
    (1) The Resident's Income is paid to all eligible, claiming households on a monthly basis.
    (2) All those legally resident within the United Kingdom are eligible for the Resident's Income.
    (3) The amounts for the Resident's Income depends on the composition of the household, and shall be at the rates as set out in Schedule 1.
    (4) These amounts are subject to an annual review.
    (5) One single form per household is required to claim Resident's Income.


    3 Disability Costs
    (1) In the case of extra living costs due to disability or long-term illness, a person shall receive confirmation from a GP of their illness or disability.
    (2) Social Services shall carry out an assessment to quantify the extra living costs incurred due to disability or illness.
    (3) Social Services shall inform the Department for Social Security, and this shall be added to the Resident's Income payment.
    (4) The received payment is dependent on an annual checkup with the GP.
    (5) Where the GP suspects that the condition has changed such that living costs change, they shall instruct Social Services to carry out an assessment to quantify the new living costs of the person in question.
    (6) In the case of extra living costs from being the full-time, unpaid carer of a disabled or ill person, a person may claim for these extra living costs.
    (7) Social Services shall carry out an assessment to quantify the extra living costs incurred by providing full-time care.
    (8) Social Services shall inform the Department for Social Security, and this shall be added to the Resident's Income payment.
    (9) The received payment is reviewed on an annual basis.


    4 Funeral Allowance
    (1) To be eligible for Funeral Allowance, the household must have an income (other than Resident's Income) below £10,000.


    5 Housing Benefit
    (1) Housing benefit is a statutory responsibility of county councils.
    (2) It is administered and funded by local authorities.
    (3) Rates, eligibility criteria, and taper rates are decided by county councils.
    (4) Country councils' plans must meet the following minimum criteria:
    (a) Anyone with a household income of below £16,000 and savings of below £16,000 must be eligible for 100% of their rent up to the 20th percentile of rents for a dwelling with a number of bedrooms equal to the number of people in the dwelling.
    (b) For an individual renting a room, section 3(4)(a) will apply, and it is defined as a 1-bedroom dwelling.


    Part II: Tax
    6 Local Income Tax
    (1) County Councils have the power to levy a local income tax in order to pay for services provided by local government.
    (2) Central Government grants to Local Authorities are reduced by £75bn.


    7 Central Income Tax
    (1) In section 1(2) of Tax Act 2011 (Income Tax) for "fifteen pence in the pound" substitute "5 per cent".
    (2) In section 1(3) of Tax Act 2011 (Income Tax) for "twenty-five pence in the pound" substitute "15 per cent".
    (3) In section 1(4) of Tax Act 2011 (Income Tax) for "thirty-five pence in the pound" substitute "25 per cent".


    8 Ground Rent Tax
    (1) In section 6(1) of Tax Act 2011 (Ground Rent Tax), for "forty percent" substitute "54 per cent".


    9 VAT
    (1) In section 2(1) of VATA 1994 (rate of VAT), for "12.5 per cent" substitute "5 per cent".


    10 Abolition of Secondary NICs
    (1) The provisions for the collection of secondary National Insurance Contributions as set out in the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 c.4 are hereby repealed.


    Part III: Miscellaneous
    11 Short Title
    (1) This Act may be cited as the Welfare Act 2012.


    Schedule 1: Rates Of Citizen's Income
    1st adult (16-64 years): £162.00 per week
    Subsequent adults (16-64 years): £92.00 per week
    1st pensioner (65+ years): £132.00 per week
    Subsequent pensioners (65+ years): £69.00 per week
    Child aged 12-15 years: £72.00 per week
    Child aged 5-11 years: £60.00 per week
    Child aged 3-4: £48.00 per week
    Child aged 0-2: £40.00 per week

    Notes + CostingWhy These Figures Per Week?
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    The figures given are based on the Joseph Rowntree Foundation research on the minimum income - we have excluded council tax (since we abolished it), rent (since we retain housing benefit at a local level) and we have adjusted slightly down for the reduction in prices based on the VAT reduction in real life from 20% to 5% (we have adjusted down by 5% based on the pass through rates of previous VAT rises and cuts to the price level).



    Cost of Resident's Income
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    From Table 22 and population estimates from ONS we can see that the country is made of:


    Non-Retired Households
    3.88m households with 1 adult @ £162 p/w, annual cost: £32.7bn
    10.8m households with 2 adults @ £254 p/w, annual cost: £142.6bn
    3.15m households with 3 adults @ £346 p/w, annual cost: £56.7bn
    2.82m Children 12-15 @ £72 p/w, annual cost: £10.6bn
    4.98m Children 5-11 @ £60 p/w, annual cost: £15.5bn
    4.01m Children 0-4 @ £44 p/w, annual cost: £9.2bn.
    Total annual cost for non-retired households: £267.3bn




    Retired:
    3.75m households with 1 pensioner @ £132 p/w, annual cost: £25.7bn
    3.22m households with 2 pensioners @ £201 p/w, annual cost: £33.7bn
    Total annual cost for retired households: £59.4bn


    Notes: I've taken the average cost for 0-2 and 3-4 payments since there's only data on 0-4.


    It might seem odd that retired households have no children, but I've just taken the total figures for children and put them in the non-retired bit for costing. If a retired person/persons have children in the household, they will be eligible to claim for them.


    The total outpayments from the scheme will be [/b]£326.7bn[/B].



    Current Welfare Spending
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    From here, we can see that current welfare + state pensions spending is £248.4bn, the cost of free bus passes is £1bn (here). This leaves a shortfall of £77.3bn which is made up with the changes in tax.



    Surplus from Tax Act 2011 miscalculations
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    The miscalculation of the Ground Rent Tax Base meant that we underestimated revenue in the Tax Act 2011 by £85.2bn. There was a £25bn oversight talked about in the first reading - this was my mistake and did not actually exist, for details please see this post.



    Central Government
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    Extra welfare spending: £77.3bn
    Reduced grants to local government: -£75bn.
    Total extra spending: £2.3bn.


    Increase in Ground Rent Tax rate: £78.3bn
    Extra Revenue from Tax Act 2011: £85.2bn
    VAT to 5%: -£37.5bn
    Income Tax Changes: -£60.3bn
    Employer NICs gone: -£48bn
    Total Revenue Changes: £17.7bn.


    Total Surplus: £15.4bn.



    Local Government
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    Cuts to grants: -£75bn
    Housing Benefit Cost: £housing benefit.
    Local Income Tax: £75bn + £housing benefit (by design from local government, to balance their budgets).
    Total Change: £0.



    Income Tax Revenue Calculations - See table 2.5, 2011/12.
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    £0-10K: 0% (£0)
    • 0% tax rate yields no revenue.
    £10-20K: 5% (£10.71bn)
    • From those earning £10-20K, total income £170.3bn.
    • Subtract personal allowance of those 11.61m taxpayers.
    • Tax base of £54.2bn from these taxpayers.
    • 15.997m taxpayers earning over £20K.
    • Each paying £800 in tax at this rate.
    • Total revenue = 5% * £54.2bn + (5% * £10,000 * 15.997m)
    • Total revenue = £10.71bn
    £20K-100K: 15% (£45.11bn)
    • From those earning £20-100K, total income £548bn.
    • Subtract all income liable for tax at lower rates of those 15.27mn taxpayers.
    • Tax base of £242.6bn from these taxpayers.
    • 727,000 taxpayers earning over £100K.
    • Each paying £20,000 in tax at this rate.
    • Total revenue = 15% * £242.6bn + (15% * £80,000 * 0.727m).
    • Total revenue = £45.11bn
    £100K+: 25% (£23.55bn)
    • From those earning £100K+, total income £166.9bn
    • Subtract all income liable for tax at lower incomes of those 727,000 taxpayers.
    • Tax base of £94.2bn at this rate.
    • Total revenue = 25% * £94.2bn
    • Total Revenue = £23.55bn
    Total: £79.37bn
    Previous Income Tax Revenue: £140.29bn (see Tax Act 2011)
    Shortfall: £60.92bn



    Ground Rent Tax Base
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    Ground Rent Tax rate is based upon The Land Value of Britain, 1985 -1990, by David Richards (E.S.S.R.A. paper, 1990) which gives a taxable ground rent value of £110 billion for 1989. Adjusting this for land value growth (using the figures from 2000 to 2005 relative to GDP and extrapolating from there) this gives a total taxable land value rental of £559bn in the UK (this and this for uprating).


    Note: Previously, I did not account for the difference in growth rates - that land values grew by 49% whilst nominal GDP by 28% in the period 2000-05, I merely then times the growth in nominal GDP by (1.49/1.28), instead, the extrapolation should take the form of 49% growth for each 28% growth in nominal GDP. Hence we massively underestimated before.

    ChangesFirst --> Second Reading
    • VAT now down to 5%, not 7% (from surplus from previous miscalculation (see costing section).
    • Funeral allowance now kept
    • Disability Allowance clarified such that carers if they incur extra living costs may also claim.
    • Renamed Resident's Income
  2. Moleman1996's Avatar
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    Aye
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    Ayeee
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    Had you told me that you were doing this today I would've held B441 back!

    Everything's much clearer now. I'll be voting aye for the principle of a negative income tax, which is introduced well in this proposal. :yy:
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    As soon as i am able to i will be voting on this bill.
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    Whilst i believe that some of the rates of the various measures should be different (highlighted in the first reading) i do agree with the measures in themselves.

    Aye.
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    Not exactly in love with the addition of Part I.4 and 5. But OK, still a reluctant aye.
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    I do not agree with the scrapping of administering free bus passes, it's a no.
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    I do not agree with the scrapping of administering free bus passes, it's a no.
    Chances are they'll be able to more than afford their own bus pass with the Citizens income.
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    I do not agree with the scrapping of administering free bus passes, it's a no.
    So it's better to give someone a product than to give someone the money which they can choose to spend in a way which is better for them?
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    aye i see nothing wrong with this bill.
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    So does anyone have any issues with this bill?

    Or is the house going to wait until this goes to vote to start voicing their opinions on it?
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    (Original post by Keckers)
    So does anyone have any issues with this bill?

    Or is the house going to wait until this goes to vote to start voicing their opinions on it?
    I never had a problem with it in the first place, but to make you happy.

    Aye
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    I never had a problem with it in the first place, but to make you happy.

    Aye
    It was more aimed at the Labour party who'll no doubt turn up at the vote with a criticism and then vote it down.
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    I already voiced my concerns and my intention to abstain.
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    (Original post by Keckers)
    It was more aimed at the Labour party who'll no doubt turn up at the vote with a criticism and then vote it down.
    Then with all due respect, please state that and don't tar all MPs with the same brush.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    Then with all due respect, please state that and don't tar all MPs with the same brush.
    I don't think it was aimed at specific individuals, but given the reent Tax Motion & Tax Interest Parity Act, then you can't argue with our wondering if anyone has anything more to say before we send it to vote, not after. We do try to be accommodating to the House.
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    (Original post by jesusandtequila)
    I don't think it was aimed at specific individuals, but given the reent Tax Motion & Tax Interest Parity Act, then you can't argue with our wondering if anyone has anything more to say before we send it to vote, not after. We do try to be accommodating to the House.
    I agree with your reasoning, but still it's not nice to tar everyone with the same brush.
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    (Original post by jesusandtequila)
    So it's better to give someone a product than to give someone the money which they can choose to spend in a way which is better for them?
    I don't think pensioners want money - they just need something they can always have in their pocket to get around.

    I do believe extra money as well as the freedom pass would help due to pension cuts etc etc.
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    I don't think pensioners want money - they just need something they can always have in their pocket to get around.

    I do believe extra money as well as the freedom pass would help due to pension cuts etc etc.
    The argument here is whether the state should buy a citizen a "freedom pass" for £30 or give them the £30 to do with what they want. What part of the latter do you find so wrong?
    Last edited by JPKC; 07-05-2012 at 20:00.
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