[Traininghard]

Hi all, not sure if we are allowed to cover Prohormones but as they are legal i cant see why not. I have been on a bulk all winter I am not on a cut but want to continue to get good gains. I have seen Epsistane on this site http://www.sports-supplements-compar...ne-prohormone/

and looks ideal as it seems to give good gains while avoiding bloat? Anyone tried ?

any sides?

Cheers guys

[Traininghard]

I mean its like £30.00 which is cheap if it works, but expensive if it doesnt, just looking for peoples experience with this

[Traininghard]

Just noticed both places out of stock
how about OXY Black anyone used?
http://www.sports-supplements-compar...hormone-stack/

[Arturo Bandini]

what else would you plan on taking before/during/after it?

[Traininghard]

well i am looking to do a course then some pct. with a 2g per kg intake of protein and a good training plan. I have been told it stacks well with Hdrol but im running it alone to see the benefits of it.

I have heard they will be back in stock, but now interested in the Oxyblack as well.

[Arturo Bandini]

what does each ingredient do? what is the point of those 4 ingredients rather than just running sdrol?

[Traininghard]

to be fair I have not used , thinking of Sdroil but wanted dryer gains. the site compares s drol as well, the chaparral labs one looks good as it has hawthorne and Nac with it.

Have you done an Sdrol cycle?

[Arturo Bandini]

nope. If I was gonna I'd just do a proper cycle cos I don't like the idea of screwing up my liver.

These kinds of things are nearly always more risk than they're worth and gains are usually mostly lost after pct and mostly it's just desperate people who want to get big real badly and are too impatient and/or lazy to just work hard in the gym. (or too scared to do a proper test cycle)

No offence

[Traininghard]

good is that S drol you are talking about for Epistane?

[Traininghard]

(Original post by Arturo Bandini)
nope. If I was gonna I'd just do a proper cycle cos I don't like the idea of screwing up my liver.

These kinds of things are nearly always more risk than they're worth and gains are usually mostly lost after pct and mostly it's just desperate people who want to get big real badly and are too impatient and/or lazy to just work hard in the gym. (or too scared to do a proper test cycle)

No offence

ha i am definatly not lazy down the gym ,but I respect what you are saying!

[Traininghard]

(Original post by goodfellow)
Epistane

great stuff. I here monster will have some back in next week

[Killuminati1989]

Epi is relatively mild, as was said above, one user didnt see the need for nolva but I strongly suggest u go to muscletalk and find people on the same regime so u can see what to take while on cycle and after.

Normally:
while on cycle some take cycle support from bbwarehouse
some require hawthorn berry as it contains n-acetyl cystein for liver support and potassium for muscle pumps

post cycle
nolvadex to prevent gyno from aromatisation of excess test

[Traininghard]

thanks Killuminati

[TLittler]

Dont bother with them mate, they are more dangerous than juice and dont give you anywhere near the gains. I hate that because somethings legal people think its safe. They can mess up your hormones for later life and decrease your test production. You'd be safer taking steroids which obviously have a plethora of negative effects

[Traininghard]

fair enough Tlittler

[Traininghard]

I will still use them though

[Tango189]

Current lifts?

[Traininghard]

(Original post by Tango189)
Current lifts?

the make of the lift in my halls in Shindler

[commandant]

Just go on test and see better gains and less sides.

[Traininghard]

I would but i am scared of needles!