[fire2burn]

(Original post by Noodlzzz)
Unfortunately I can't edit the name but I think a MH thread is deffo the way forward. If a mod would like to change it?

I am away for the next few days, I've posted to the other H&R mods highlighting this post and asking them to take a look for you




Hope you have a nice weekend everyone

[ViceVersa]

(Original post by Alofleicester)
Excellent. I shall be a child forevers!

I reckon it won't last until my birthday (second saturday in June).

(Original post by AntisthenesDogger)
Should probably be named; The sometimes Depressive society. So many different problems on here.

Anyway I think it will last around a month? This thread, until we need a new one that is.

A month! I don't think we will move through it that quickly!

(Original post by AntisthenesDogger)
The way I read it in the last pages of the final thread seemed otherwise. But I guess that could work? I don't know. Do people feel ostracized by the name? I don't and I'm not clinically depressed, I'm bipolar and have a borderline disorder.

Maybe we should look into it more. Or maybe I'm being too analytic.

Eurgh I don't know. Going to go and eat too much to care.

It could It will take some thought and maybe more discussions.

(Original post by Noodlzzz)
Unfortunately I can't edit the name but I think a MH thread is deffo the way forward. If a mod would like to change it?

I've contacted a mod and let them know of our discussion and what they think is the way forward. I'll be notified of anything within the next few days

(Original post by rmhumphries)
23rd September 2012 is when the new thread will be created *nods*

Too far away

[Stiff Little Fingers]

(Original post by ViceVersa)
A month! I don't think we will move through it that quickly!



It could It will take some thought and maybe more discussions.



I've contacted a mod and let them know of our discussion and what they think is the way forward. I'll be notified of anything within the next few days

I dunno, we got through the last one in 3 months. If Fire2Burn is gonna start being grouchy with us then we could fly through it.

[ViceVersa]

(Original post by Lewk)
Don't you just get fed up when you are outright rejected by 'friends'? Went upstairs where some of my housemates were chatting to return something one of them left in my room and they just completely ignored me and I felt a strong sense that my presence was unwanted. And they were talking about games so it's not like I walked into anything private. I'm suprised cos I have been much more cheery and energetic today :/ normally they are excused since I am usually miserable & lethargic, very undesirable traits in a friend i'm sure.
I wish I could one day be that person who people 'come to' instead of it always being the other way round.

I know exactly what you mean and I have had this issue before. It's hard for people to understand how much it sucks if they haven't been in the same situation. But remember that your moods or whatever you think you might have done wrong (and you might not have done anything wrong at all, which is likely) it is not your fault. I know what you mean about wanting to be the person people came to as I had that issue with one of my friends. In the end there was nothing for it than to be honest about how I felt, but I put it in a 'I just wish you felt you could come to me about stuff more!' and it's really helped. Eve more so, there will always be new people around to make friends with, you just have to discover them first

(Original post by bullettheory)

(Original post by Alofleicester)
I dunno, we got through the last one in 3 months. If Fire2Burn is gonna start being grouchy with us then we could fly through it.

Hmmmm. We'll see then.

[Sabertooth]

(Original post by Noodlzzz)
Unfortunately I can't edit the name but I think a MH thread is deffo the way forward. If a mod would like to change it?

Maybe we could have a vote on it?

democracy ftw.

[Noodlzzz]

(Original post by Sabertooth)
Maybe we could have a vote on it?

democracy ftw.

Just so you can put in sabertooth appreciation soc

[rmhumphries]

(Original post by Noodlzzz)
Unfortunately I can't edit the name but I think a MH thread is deffo the way forward. If a mod would like to change it?

My own view is that while there may be more than depressed people here, most; if not all of us have depressive symptoms at times. So therefore the name is suitable. Also, I fear that if it is changed from dep soc, to "Mental Health Problems", then people who are not sure if there is anything wrong will be more afraid of posting, in a way, being thought of as mentally ill has even more stigma than being depressed -> being depressed is thought of as not a real illness, being mentally ill is thought of as being insane.

(Original post by ViceVersa)



Too far away

We will see, when I am right I can say I told you so

[ViceVersa]

(Original post by rmhumphries)
My own view is that while there may be more than depressed people here, most; if not all of us have depressive symptoms at times. So therefore the name is suitable. Also, I fear that if it is changed from dep soc, to "Mental Health Problems", then people who are not sure if there is anything wrong will be more afraid of posting, in a way, being thought of as mentally ill has even more stigma than being depressed -> being depressed is thought of as not a real illness, being mentally ill is thought of as being insane.



We will see, when I am right I can say I told you so

Which is thy the depsoc can still stay, but another 'General' thread created for further discussions on other MH problems etc.


I love how you say 'when' and not 'if'

[superwolf]

(Original post by rmhumphries)
My own view is that while there may be more than depressed people here, most; if not all of us have depressive symptoms at times. So therefore the name is suitable. Also, I fear that if it is changed from dep soc, to "Mental Health Problems", then people who are not sure if there is anything wrong will be more afraid of posting, in a way, being thought of as mentally ill has even more stigma than being depressed -> being depressed is thought of as not a real illness, being mentally ill is thought of as being insane.

Insanity society!

[rmhumphries]

(Original post by ViceVersa)
Which is thy the depsoc can still stay, but another 'General' thread created for further discussions on other MH problems etc.


I love how you say 'when' and not 'if'

At the moment, it seems this thread is looking into being renamed though.


Naturally, I am very confident in my predictions

[Noodlzzz]

(Original post by superwolf)
Insanity society!

Second this.

[ViceVersa]

(Original post by rmhumphries)
At the moment, it seems this thread is looking into being renamed though.


Naturally, I am very confident in my predictions

I've contacted FDL so we'll see what she and the other mods have to say..

I guess we'll have to see then

[superwolf]

I don't see a particular need to either rename this thread or add in a general extra one. 'Depression' is a broad enough term that features in many different mental illnesses, which I think is already reflected in that we've got people posting in here with bipolar, psychosis, eating disorders etc. Depression is either a symptom in a lot of these illnesses, or has a tendency to go hand in hand with them, so I don't think many people would feel excluded by the term. And since we've already got a fair number of regular/occasional posters, and a steady influx of new ones, I think that suggests that there isn't an urgent need for a separate thread dedicated to mental illness as a whole, since this thread more or less serves as that anyway. We've got a good community spirit going here, and I'd hate to mess that up by splintering this thread into separate groups.

Also I am against any suggestions that mean Sabertooth would be posting less.

[ParadoxSocks]

(Original post by rmhumphries)
Will PM you during next week to arrange when we meet, yes?

Can you not go and see the duty doctor on Monday? Just tell the receptionist it is urgent, and you don't want to talk to her about it.



Same here with shower curtain, along with things such as needing to keep checking that my door actually is locked.

I didn't know that was a thing. How does it work?

[rmhumphries]

(Original post by ParadoxSocks)
I didn't know that was a thing. How does it work?

Just go along on the day, and say you need to urgently see the duty doctor. You don't need to tell the receptionist why if you don't want to. Then you will be given an appointment, usually between 10-15 minutes from when you go in, to about an hour or two later, and then you see whoever the duty doctor is that day (it changes each day from the normal selection of doctors). It is for urgent things that are less urgent than A&E but need a doctor, but can't wait until the next free appointment - other uses that I have seen it used for is when someone hurt their leg while playing football for instance.

Edit: See here.

[headunderwater]

Today was the last time I ever have to see home treatment ever again (assuming I stay well, obviously).

[headunderwater]

(Original post by ViceVersa)
Which is thy the depsoc can still stay, but another 'General' thread created for further discussions on other MH problems etc.


I love how you say 'when' and not 'if'

I think that's a really bad idea. We've always discussed a wide range of illnesses within the DepSoc and I don't really see a need to change it. Splintering the threads will lead to less of a community feel and probably lead to less regular posters posting.

Just my opinion, though.

[Stiff Little Fingers]

(Original post by superwolf)
I don't see a particular need to either rename this thread or add in a general extra one. 'Depression' is a broad enough term that features in many different mental illnesses, which I think is already reflected in that we've got people posting in here with bipolar, psychosis, eating disorders etc. Depression is either a symptom in a lot of these illnesses, or has a tendency to go hand in hand with them, so I don't think many people would feel excluded by the term. And since we've already got a fair number of regular/occasional posters, and a steady influx of new ones, I think that suggests that there isn't an urgent need for a separate thread dedicated to mental illness as a whole, since this thread more or less serves as that anyway. We've got a good community spirit going here, and I'd hate to mess that up by splintering this thread into separate groups.

Also I am against any suggestions that mean Sabertooth would be posting less.

On the whole, I'd agree with this. It may not exactly be the depression society when we've lots of people posting in here with different illnesses - but then again, they generally have similar symptoms and at the moment there's more than a fair few in here with bipolar/borderline/psychosis etc. who seem fairly comfortable posting in here.
On the other hand, a general thread might be a decent idea, with the number of regular/semi-regular posters, the thread moves quite quickly and there's the chance that new-comers might see their posts get lost among the tide and not necessarily get spotted by those that have the same issue and can offer the best help.

[ViceVersa]

(Original post by headunderwater)
I think that's a really bad idea. We've always discussed a wide range of illnesses within the DepSoc and I don't really see a need to change it. Splintering the threads will lead to less of a community feel and probably lead to less regular posters posting.

Just my opinion, though.

What about all the new people looking for support or advice like on general or mild depression, that often complain they're being ignored. I don't think it's right to constantly talk or fill the thread up with other MH issues, examples not really needed. Others have said that there isn't an urgent need for a separate thread dedicated to mental illness as a whole, since this thread more or less serves as that anyway, but I think it suggests we might as well have a general MH thread and not think it is right to carry on the way we have been on the depresison thread. Nobody is saying people can't post on depsoc anymore, they can post in both. No one is splitting anyone up and no community has to be lost and what about the stuff that happened with the PD/BPD yesterday? how is that right on the depsoc? I personally feel that just because people are scared of change doesn't mean things should go on the way they are. The truth is that people post a lot more about just depression, there used to be detailed posts about psychosis and stuff, and the discussion yday with the PD/BPD and encouraging new members to disregard diagnosis they might not like or agree with (a post by an anon highlighted this issue with norms and stuff) so how would a new member judge the thread, it's people and it's rules? Not very good And then also new members coming thinking the norm is to be really ill and constantly talk about other MH issues, and so feel they have to be more ill to fit in. Then there's also the issue with the fact that it's just not healthy for people coming in to expect depression talk or people who come in to give other people advice on depression, and not giving advice about psychosis or bipolar that they're not trained or equipped to give. Sometimes the thread has become such that unless people like superwolf or Nut or others reply, posts asking about actual advice on depression are missed or ignored. So the aim of what it was created for is lost. A general separate thread for all of the rest of issues and chats should be made, and depsoc given proper respect and just turned into a society on depression if that makes sense. And it not just me, other new members mistake me for a mod and PM me about how uncomfortable or triggered or anxious or scared to post they are, or about being ignored, or their mild depression issues or advice seeming less important, so feeling they have to emphasise things more to get noticed and supported, which isn't healthy at all. I'm trying to see things in a bigger perspective, what's best for everyone and also how things should be like long term, and I don't think carrying on this way is the best. I just don't feel the title 'depression society' fits how others would imagine or see it...it's very misnamed.

It was only an idea anyway and I honestly can see both sides of it so I hope nobody's upset by this. If the mods don't agree then that's okay. I really hope the mods do agree to a new general thread or a positive way to move forward for what it's worth.

Just my opinion

You don't have to reply to this btw, I just felt I needed to get out some points people should consider..

(Original post by fleur de lis)
Sorry but I thought maybe you should read this as well..

[headunderwater]

(Original post by ViceVersa)
What about all the new people looking for support or advice like on general or mild depression, that often complain they're being ignored. I don't think it's right to constantly talk or fill the thread up with other MH issues, examples not really needed. Others have said that there isn't an urgent need for a separate thread dedicated to mental illness as a whole, since this thread more or less serves as that anyway, but I think it suggests we might as well have a general MH thread and not think it is right to carry on that way on the depresison thread. Nobody is saying people can't post on depsoc anymore, they can post in both. No one is splitting anyone up and no community has to be lost and what about the stuff that happened with the PD/BPD yesterday? how is that right on the depsoc? I personally feel that just because people are scared of change doesn't mean things should go on the way they are. The truth is that people post a lot more about just depression, there used to be detailed posts about psychosis and stuff, and the discussion yday with the PD/BPD and encouraging new members to disregard diagnosis they might not like or agree with (a post by an anon highlighted this issue with norms and stuff) so how would a new member judge the thread, it's people and it's rules? Not very good And then also new members coming thinking the norm is to be really ill and constantly talk about other MH issues, and so feel they have to be more ill to fit in.Then there's also the issue with the fact that it's just not healthy for people coming in to expect depression talk and then give other people advice on depression, and not giving advice about psychosis or bipolar that they're not trained or equipped to give. Sometimes the thread has become such that unless people like superwolf or Nut or others reply, posts asking about actual advice on depression are missed or ignored. So the aim of what it was created for is lost. A general separate thread for all of the test of issues and chats should be made, and depsoc given proper respect and just turned into a society on depression if that makes sense. And it not just me, other new members mistake me for a mod and PM me about how uncomfortable or triggered or anxious or scared to post they are, or about being ignored, or their mild depression issues or advice seeming less important, so feeling they have to emphasise things more to get noticed and supported, which isn't healthy at all. I'm trying to see things in a bigger perspective, what's best for everyone and also how things should be like long term and I don't think carrying on this way is the best. I just don't feel the title 'depression society' fits how others would imagine or see it...it's very misnamed.

It was only an idea anyway and I honestly can see both sides of it so I hope nobody's upset by this. If the mods don't agree then that's okay. I really hope FDL and the other mods agree to a new general thread or a positive way to move forward for what it's worth.

Just my opinion

What's wrong with talking about stuff other than depression? We may talk about a lot of different things (from psychosis to PD to anxiety) but I think the key thing that links us all together in this thread is that we feel ****. Depression is still central here and I don't see why there's a need for a change.