What motivates people to vote Labour?

So I was correct.....


1) You dont need a good school to get average GCSEs.
2) I wasnt born into a rich family- the opposite.


Would we? I am fairly confident if we had access to the lorries we could find replacements very quickly (even the army could do that job if it came to it). This is why they are not paid a high wage- they are replaceable.


Im not saying they don't need help- I'm saying we shouldn't give them it. Life is about survival and to do that you have to help yourself first!

If you guys want to help them, then reduce my tax and you can contribute more. How about that?

And you judge being on benefits for a year as not contributing?

Right, imagine a man, he left school at age 16 and went pretty much straight into work, working near constantly for 26 years (about 6 months unemployment in that time) - the company he works for is hit by the recession and as a result he is made redundant. Having left school at 16 he has very few qualifications and so finds it hard to get a job, spending nearly 2 years out of work despite applying for pretty much everything going - under your idea, he shouldn't be allowed a say in how his country is run, but he's contributed far more during his employment than he received during that period of unemployment. Now how is that fair? That a persons history should be completely ignored in favour of one year when they were seriously down on their luck.

Yeah, the UK was great back then, except for the fact that we needed to be bailed out by the IMF, had stupid high taxes, were dominated by unions, some of our largest industries were unprofitable and had to be subsidised, low wages, culture of underachievement, winters of discontent...
But yeah, Old Labour was totally great

(Have a think first before you reply to this......)

Why do you think Britain's average salary today is £25k and not £5k

(I'll give you a clue, it has something to do with the empire )

You really are an idiot of the highest order.
A prejudiced one too.

This country NEEDS cleaners, binmen, builders, plumbers, people who do the jobs you think are below you.

In fact we need them a heck of a lot more than we do lawyers or accountants.

If everyone was a lawyer or accountant or doctor society wouldn't work.

Maybe you've never experienced an inner city school. A school where half the kids don't turn up, most have never even met their father and all of them live in relative poverty. How do you expect these types of people to succeed in life if we don't help them to?

I hope one day if you take ill and can't afford private healthcare that you don't expect the NHS to help you, i mean if you're not even rich enough to afford your own healthcare you don't deserve it. According to you're logic.

It was actually because we industrialised first, the first factory was built in the UK. For a long time our reliance on coal which we did, and still do, have an abundance of allowed us to push that forward. You gained little from most of the empire and the only country where things were gained was India. Even then most of what was gained was hoarded by a few(thousand) people and most of the country lived on in poverty. Germany was a country that had no empire, yet they have a similar standard of living because they industrialised just after us (about 40-50 years but much earlier than the 200-250 for NICs). The majority of our wealth was created by factories and innovation rather than the exploration of other countries through a dominant military.

Er yes- taking is not the same as giving??????

No it wouldn't, because Conservatives and Conservative voters are not so selfish as Labour voters. Nationalisation of the health service is the reason our cancer survival rates are so awful compared with the USA.

Pensioners and students had it so ****ing easy during Labour's rule. I am glad they are now paying their fair share.

Er yes- taking is not the same as giving??????


If he didn't think short-term and got more qualifications BEFORE he "jacked-in" education then he'd find it easIER getting a new job, wouldnt he?

This is EXACTLY why I ****ing hate Labour. How the hell is this person "unlucky" when the stupid moron ran out of the school gates at the first opportunity and then wonders why he cant find a job??

Here's a better idea: make yourself better qualified. Increase your employment "demand factor", the extent to which an employer demands your skills and guess what, your employability increases.

Its not neuroscience, is it?

Problem is lefties like you have no problem with short-termism because your ideology is full of it (just like Labour spend spend spend and then oh, we're in debt?).

Anybody with two brain cells can see my point.

So we spent (equivalent of) billions on this "empire" thing, on the Navy, fighting more wars than the world put together, protecting our colonies, when it did not benefit us financially in any way?

So again, you just ignore a massive section of a life time of contribution in favour of one small mistake?

Well because he worked hard for a quarter of a life span, he was made redundant through no fault of his own. Or do you believe he brought it upon himself?

Really? So you're advocating being a jack of all trades and a master of none? Experience should mean far more than qualifications.

As opposed to the conservatives' save money now without considering the long term effect sort of policy?

Boy, I can see your point - I just think it's an evil, compassion-less belief created by a delusion of superiority.

Can you please elaborate on equality? How the hell can you make humans equal when they're clearly not naturally?

No im just smarter and you're struggling to deal with it.



Where did I say I think they are below me? I just said they are far more replaceable. If they aren't so easily replaceable, how did the polish come here and suddenly start work as plumbers?



Really? So are you saying if binmen didn't exist, we would be physically unable to carry out waste to the tip?

Re builders and plumbers, ever heard of the term "DIY"?
What tips? who would create tips if their were no binmen? we would be crapping in the street. as for diy if you equate that with professional building work then you are a dingbat, i would love to see your efforts.

Since when did I disagree?


But Labour created this??

-They opened the floodgates to immigration in the 70s and 90/00s
-They said the two-parent family wasn't essential
-They closed all the grammar schools in inner cities
-They enforced political correctness so that youths would not respect authority

Immigration started in the fifties under the tories. two parent families are not essential. introducing a more balanced education system was an excellent idea. where is your respect when you use the term "I hate the ****ing labour party".

Im a tory, therefore I am a hard work and I can afford it

It may not have neen prefect but it was much better now. The middle class were much better off. Much bigger houses and a higher standard of living. Didnt have to pay to go to University, in fact you got a grant to help you go.

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_national_debt

Look at this. See how our debt drops when socialism was introduced in after the war and the country nearly ends up in profit but then Thatcher introduces free market capitalism.

The only thing that is stopping the debt from rising massively is the constant sale of all Great Britain assets.

Our roads will go soon to a Chinese investment company.

Pensioners had it easy? We'll just ignore the fact that many of them left school at 14/15, completed national service and worked their asses off for 40/50 years?

I'm proud to say that I voted 123 for my labour candidates in the local council elections as the tories will destroy this country.

The rich deserve to be taxed, the poor deserve to be helped. We live in the 21st century, not the 16th