If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?I think we would struggle to fend of wasps and bees. Its hard enough getting one out of the window using paper and a cup. Not to mention if they get in your car... then its game over i'm afraid.
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?In terms of brute strength, humans are way down the list compared to most mammals (the larger ones at least). Horses, cattle, elephants, rhinos, hippos, the big cats, large deer (like moose), gorillas, etc. could easily kill a human if they wanted to.
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?If insects were out of the equation, humans would win. Yeah dogs/horses and that are stronger but they're retarded.
But insects outnumber out stupendously and can swarm us. You can't beat up 4748573854628472847374 cockroaches can you? -
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?How do you know the current world population of cockroaches?(Original post by KimKallstrom)
You can't beat up 4748573854628472847374 cockroaches can you?Last edited by thomaskurian89; 06-05-2012 at 05:03. -
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?No, we would be dead within minutes, all the parasites in our bodies would just start eating us and killing us from the inside, at the moment we generally live in harmony because it's mutually beneficial, but if the wanted to they could kill us.
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?www.wikipedia.org(Original post by thomaskurian89)
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?Easily, we'd win outright. Though there would be casulties.(Original post by 0906079)
This was posted on another forum but I wanted to see what the Sheldons of TSR thought.
If every animal in the world, including bugs, tried to wipe out the human race, would we have any chance of survival?
The first is the lack of large, dangerous animals. Sure, there's lots of powerful animals. Hippos, elephants, lions, tigers, rhinos, wolves, etc. But what use is a hippos' extending jaw with tusks against tank armour? A 120mm shell would turn a hippo to pink mist. It would blow an elephant simply in half.
We'd lose quite a few people who were outside of armour. A mass charge of elephants against a small group of soldiers, depending on the weaponry we had, probably would just get crushed and thrown each way. Elephants aren't as tough as people seem to make out, however. Remember, Alexander the great managed to kill hundreds of elephants in India with his army using bows and spears. We can put a 5.56mm NATO round through the skull of a charging elephant thirty times in about four seconds with most standard rifles, and that's a weak round.
If animals ambushed a squad, a single squad, then fair enough. But there is not an animal on the planet that can contend with us in force or stealth.
Then we look at insects. People on here saying there's so many of them are being ridiculous. We have the ability to drop napalm across a four hundred meter stretch of land which will be as wide as a football field. Nothing will survive that. That's also a small scale bomb, too. We have weaponry that can flatten entire cities, what use are exoskeletons going to be?
Granted, if a thousand ants get on you they'll eat you. Its been seen with large animals before it can happen to us, but they wont reach that close. We can outrun them, we can certainly kill them and even if there is 100 million of them to each human, we would kill them very, very easily.
Poisionous creatures would present more of a problem, but they still wouldn't beat us. We'd lose quite a few, but we wouldn't be beaten.
Flame weaponry would be our best bet here. Flamethrowers lost their effectiveness outside World War II. They weren't a practical weapon and the few systems that were still used in Vietnam were the same as they were in World War II. Today, however, we can rack up a system on armoured vehicles that projects a lengthier flame and its hotter. We also have white phospherous and napalm, which we can drop in more then ample amounts to destroy masses of insects.
Birds, pfft. In mass numbers they'd peak and claw at us, but its not enough. People would be wearing goggles and helmets, these are easily able to protect against beaks and claws. Then, at that range, just open up on them. Flames would also be helpful here, aided by explosives and rapid fire weaponry.
In the ocean, there's nothing to harm us. If we got off the ships our out the Subs, then yeah, inside there's no issue. I'd just use a Destroyer's forward 80mm to pop rounds off at large sea animals close to the surface and depth charges for everything else.
We wouldn't lose the sea, there's nothing there to harm us. And again, flames and explosives will annihalate insects.(Original post by Peace and Love)
first of all, we would lose the see... but win air and land, however we would soon die ourselves as bugs fertilize plants which we need for oxygen so i presume we would eventually suffocate, i give us a months tops as we would probably nuke forest/areas of mass animal population
BTW do you know how many ants there are? and guns are useless against things that small so im more worried about insects than Lions ect
Refer to above. How do you figure birds would take us? Those two meter tall Terror Birds that use to bumble around North America a few thousand years ago are dead, they are the only things that would present a threat. Smaller birds in larger numbers don't have the beaks nor claws to damage us on mass. Besides, even if they did, we'd just lock ourselves in armoured vehicles.(Original post by DontWantYourBloodMoney)
If every other species turned against us then we would be screwed. If it was just animals, I think we could cope, but the birds and especially insects would have us for breakfast, lunch and possibly hors d'oeuvre.
Again, refer to above. They have the numbers, but they aren't intelligent nor do they possess weaponry that we do. We can outthink, out shoot and definitely out perform them.(Original post by KingMessi)
If every single one did? We wouldn't stand a cat's chance in hell, due to sheer weight of numbers.Last edited by DH-Biker; 06-05-2012 at 08:20. -
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?I have one word for you, nematodes, it would be bye bye humans in minutes. If you made all other matter on earth invisible you would still be able to see the outline of every hill, valley, human and plant on earth because they are covered in nematodes, they make up 80% of all individual animals on earth.
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?I initially thought humans, but now gotta say animals.
Swarms would eat our crops, large animals aren't an issue, but it's the small stuff that screws us.
If we obliterated an entire continent, moved everyone there, and then lived in filtered hab-bubbles with airlocks etc, we could escape. Otherwise you'll get killed in your sleep or simply swarmed. -
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?This sounds like an extreme case of revision-avoidance - people usually turn to Facebook, so I salute your originality!(Original post by 0906079)
This was posted on another forum but I wanted to see what the Sheldons of TSR thought.
If every animal in the world, including bugs, tried to wipe out the human race, would we have any chance of survival? -
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?i dont think we would...
yes if we have weapons we can wipe them out... how many people have weapons readily available in their house?
i dont... my uncle has a few shot guns... but im pretty sure we'd be gone before anyone came to the rescue...
a lot of animals are a lot more agile, and a lot faster than people... id soo not want to take on my sisters cat he's bad enough when he's just "playing" all we have around here is farm animals, deer, and the infamous "black panther" ...... and well ok a cow wont be able to bite/scratch you but they can crush... you my uncle had an evil cow it broke his ribs, it would try and charge people and crush them against walls/gates
and has anyone seen black sheep! :|
were all doooooooomed
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?I like your optimism.(Original post by DH-Biker)
Easily, we'd win outright. Though there would be casulties.
The first is the lack of large, dangerous animals. Sure, there's lots of powerful animals. Hippos, elephants, lions, tigers, rhinos, wolves, etc. But what use is a hippos' extending jaw with tusks against tank armour? A 120mm shell would turn a hippo to pink mist. It would blow an elephant simply in half.
We'd lose quite a few people who were outside of armour. A mass charge of elephants against a small group of soldiers, depending on the weaponry we had, probably would just get crushed and thrown each way. Elephants aren't as tough as people seem to make out, however. Remember, Alexander the great managed to kill hundreds of elephants in India with his army using bows and spears. We can put a 5.56mm NATO round through the skull of a charging elephant thirty times in about four seconds with most standard rifles, and that's a weak round.
If animals ambushed a squad, a single squad, then fair enough. But there is not an animal on the planet that can contend with us in force or stealth.
Then we look at insects. People on here saying there's so many of them are being ridiculous. We have the ability to drop napalm across a four hundred meter stretch of land which will be as wide as a football field. Nothing will survive that. That's also a small scale bomb, too. We have weaponry that can flatten entire cities, what use are exoskeletons going to be?
Granted, if a thousand ants get on you they'll eat you. Its been seen with large animals before it can happen to us, but they wont reach that close. We can outrun them, we can certainly kill them and even if there is 100 million of them to each human, we would kill them very, very easily.
Poisionous creatures would present more of a problem, but they still wouldn't beat us. We'd lose quite a few, but we wouldn't be beaten.
Flame weaponry would be our best bet here. Flamethrowers lost their effectiveness outside World War II. They weren't a practical weapon and the few systems that were still used in Vietnam were the same as they were in World War II. Today, however, we can rack up a system on armoured vehicles that projects a lengthier flame and its hotter. We also have white phospherous and napalm, which we can drop in more then ample amounts to destroy masses of insects.
Birds, pfft. In mass numbers they'd peak and claw at us, but its not enough. People would be wearing goggles and helmets, these are easily able to protect against beaks and claws. Then, at that range, just open up on them. Flames would also be helpful here, aided by explosives and rapid fire weaponry.
In the ocean, there's nothing to harm us. If we got off the ships our out the Subs, then yeah, inside there's no issue. I'd just use a Destroyer's forward 80mm to pop rounds off at large sea animals close to the surface and depth charges for everything else.
We wouldn't lose the sea, there's nothing there to harm us. And again, flames and explosives will annihalate insects.
Refer to above. How do you figure birds would take us? Those two meter tall Terror Birds that use to bumble around North America a few thousand years ago are dead, they are the only things that would present a threat. Smaller birds in larger numbers don't have the beaks nor claws to damage us on mass. Besides, even if they did, we'd just lock ourselves in armoured vehicles.
Again, refer to above. They have the numbers, but they aren't intelligent nor do they possess weaponry that we do. We can outthink, out shoot and definitely out perform them.
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?Of course you can nuke the sea. Why wouldn't you be able to?(Original post by SirMasterKey)
Insects deep underground would survive. Cockroaches almost certainly would and then can you nuke the sea and oceans?
And with enough nukes we could destroy the entire planet
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Re: If EVERY animal in the world turned against us, could we survive?It's the beetles you have to be aware of, it's always the tiny things that are the most dangerous. We wouldn't win it but it will be some war, kinda like Starship Troopers
