Usain Bolt race row?
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Re: Usain Bolt race row?(Original post by Ebuwa)
I KMTd when I read this, what a suprise. Just like Black footballers in the UK.
A comment left on the site summed on my view on this
I don't think the Jamaican people are being 'racist' (let's really think about the definition of that word before we throw it around), rather they're questioning Bolt's motives and how black men are being raised in society today. Their point of view is that who's betting when Bolt was younger and before he became rich and famous, he dated black women. Now he's made something of himself, it appears black women aren't good enough. And it's not just famous black men, it's black men in general. There's issues around dating white girls instead of black girls because black women are too 'demanding' and 'high maintenence' and light skinned women being deemed more attractive than dark skinned women and it's really sad. Black men are being conditioned into thinking that either light skinned, mixed race or white women are better options than the beautiful, intelligent black women out there. If his girlfriend is a good woman then great. I just hope he's not based his partner selection on race.
- Susie, London, 05/5/2012 15:12
Brilliant post above.... Can you guess which one?(Original post by ckingalt)
Here have a look. I reversed the context by switching all the gender and race references in your post from male to female and black to white. My changes are in bold, the rest is unchanged. Do you still not think this attitude is not prejudiced?
I don't think saying white women should not date black men is being 'racist' (let's really think about the definition of that word before we throw it around), rather they're questioning these white women's motives and how they are being raised in society today. Their point of view is that who's betting that they are only dating black men because they think they're exotic. Suddenly they want to rebel against their daddy and white guys are't good enough. And it's not just rebellious white girls, it's white girls in general. There's issues around dating black men instead of white men because white men are too 'boring and uptight' and dark skinned men being deemed more attractive than light skinned men and it's really sad. White women are being conditioned into thinking that either dark skinned, mixed race or black men are better options than the beautiful, intelligent white men out there. If her boyfriend is a good man then great. I just hope she's not based her partner selection on race.
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Re: Usain Bolt race row?I see your link and raise you a link(Original post by TheHansa)
It's fine as long as he doesn't select based on stereotypes.
google is your friend here
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...w=1366&bih=613
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Re: Usain Bolt race row?In all honest although you have changed some bits, the tone from the outset it different. Should not date? Where did it say that that? It didn't, it said they were questioning his motives for doing so. It didn't say there aren't legitimate motives, such as "maybe she is just a nice girl". Without that opening line, I don't think its wrong in many cases.(Original post by ckingalt)
Here have a look. I reversed the context by switching all the gender and race references in your post from male to female and black to white. My changes are in bold, the rest is unchanged. Do you still not think this attitude is not prejudiced?
I don't think saying white women should not date black men is being 'racist' (let's really think about the definition of that word before we throw it around), rather they're questioning these white women's motives and how they are being raised in society today. Their point of view is that who's betting that they are only dating black men because they think they're exotic. Suddenly they want to rebel against their daddy and white guys are't good enough. And it's not just rebellious white girls, it's white girls in general. There's issues around dating black men instead of white men because white men are too 'boring and uptight' and dark skinned men being deemed more attractive than light skinned men and it's really sad. White women are being conditioned into thinking that either dark skinned, mixed race or black men are better options than the beautiful, intelligent white men out there. If her boyfriend is a good man then great. I just hope she's not based her partner selection on race. -
Re: Usain Bolt race row?so "snow bunny" isnt a racist phrase(Original post by Ebuwa)
I KMTd when I read this, what a suprise. Just like Black footballers in the UK.
A comment left on the site summed on my view on this
I don't think the Jamaican people are being 'racist' (let's really think about the definition of that word before we throw it around), rather they're questioning Bolt's motives and how black men are being raised in society today. Their point of view is that who's betting when Bolt was younger and before he became rich and famous, he dated black women. Now he's made something of himself, it appears black women aren't good enough. And it's not just famous black men, it's black men in general. There's issues around dating white girls instead of black girls because black women are too 'demanding' and 'high maintenence' and light skinned women being deemed more attractive than dark skinned women and it's really sad. Black men are being conditioned into thinking that either light skinned, mixed race or white women are better options than the beautiful, intelligent black women out there. If his girlfriend is a good woman then great. I just hope he's not based his partner selection on race.
- Susie, London, 05/5/2012 15:12
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Re: Usain Bolt race row?lol I have no idea. I guess it's modern 'art'.(Original post by tehforum)
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Re: Usain Bolt race row?(Original post by doggyfizzel)
Racism has always worked both ways. Although I'm not sure this racism, its more the national hero of Jamaica is getting serious with a non Jamaican, pretty sure there would be anger if she was non Jamaican anyway.Its hardly unheard of, can you imagine Prince Harry marrying a black girl, not sure that is even allowed?
That said there is a tendency for black men to see a white wife as a status or trophy symbol, a remnant from the past and segregation.
In the words of the ever so wise Mr West
"but when he gets on, he’ll leave your ass for a white girl"
Your post is terribly condescending. I hope you realise this. Lots of black people stick to their own.
In the same breath you could also say that it's the white girls who have a tendency to get a strong athletic black man as a trophy- rather than it being about mutual attraction, looks or personality which in most cases it usually is.Last edited by Blutooth; 06-05-2012 at 22:22. -
Re: Usain Bolt race row?I'm not sure how it is condescending, how exactly is it displaying and sense of superiority. When exactly did I say that every black person wants a white partner, I never did. I could say that in the same breath, but I didn't.(Original post by Blutooth)
Your post is terribly condescending. I hope you realise this. Lots of black people stick to their own.
In the same breath you could also say that it's the white girls who have a tendency to get a strong athletic black man as a trophy- rather than it being about mutual attraction, looks or personality which in most cases it usually is. -
Re: Usain Bolt race row?Tendancy: An inclination toward a particular characteristic or type of behaviour.(Original post by Blutooth)
Seems like you're an idiot too.
Its not an absolute, and it says nothing about everyone having a partner. Jesus, learn the definition of words, and read what I have written rather than what you would like me to have written. -
Re: Usain Bolt race row?Ok, captain obvious.(Original post by doggyfizzel)
Tendancy: An inclination toward a particular characteristic or type of behaviour.
Its not an absolute.
A tendency of black men is what you said- which implicitly assumes all black men; don't try and wriggle your way out of it.(Original post by doggyfizzel)
and it says nothing about everyone having a partner. Jesus, learn the definition of words, and read what I have written rather than what you would like me to have written.Last edited by Blutooth; 06-05-2012 at 23:36. -
Re: Usain Bolt race row?On the Daily Fail website, that comment got 665 thumbs down and got you negged.(Original post by Ebuwa)
I KMTd when I read this, what a suprise. Just like Black footballers in the UK.
A comment left on the site summed on my view on this
I don't think the Jamaican people are being 'racist' (let's really think about the definition of that word before we throw it around), rather they're questioning Bolt's motives and how black men are being raised in society today. Their point of view is that who's betting when Bolt was younger and before he became rich and famous, he dated black women. Now he's made something of himself, it appears black women aren't good enough. And it's not just famous black men, it's black men in general. There's issues around dating white girls instead of black girls because black women are too 'demanding' and 'high maintenence' and light skinned women being deemed more attractive than dark skinned women and it's really sad. Black men are being conditioned into thinking that either light skinned, mixed race or white women are better options than the beautiful, intelligent black women out there. If his girlfriend is a good woman then great. I just hope he's not based his partner selection on race.
- Susie, London, 05/5/2012 15:12
But you can keep telling yourself that isn't racist but if a white person said that you'd be first to cry racism. But I guess 'black men dating white women is harmful to the black community'. And these 'self hate issues exhibited by mostly black men need to be dealt with urgently'.
Lol I've seen these arguments hundreds of times.
U just jelly that you'll never be able to date the future king of Jamaica.
U wanna cry like this?
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Re: Usain Bolt race row?Why is it so important to build the 'black community'?(Original post by theoferdinand)
Good for the jamaicans . Black people we need to stick together and build the black community .
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Re: Usain Bolt race row?Nice cop out.(Original post by dennisraymondsmith)
Sorry its best for me not to talk about it to be honest . You never know who might be watching .
Anyway i don't dislike whites to be honest if you are white that is but like i said black people we need to stick together -
Re: Usain Bolt race row?I would just like to clarify that not all black people think like this noob.(Original post by dennisraymondsmith)
Sorry its best for me not to talk about it to be honest . You never know who might be watching .
Anyway i don't dislike whites to be honest if you are white that is but like i said black people we need to stick together
(Original post by No Man)
Nice cop out.Last edited by Tsunami2011; 07-05-2012 at 20:33. -
Re: Usain Bolt race row?
OMG
(Original post by Dominic101)
Maybe those bitch ass ebonies should get fitter it they want a bit of bolt

