(Original post by SaintSoldier)
I never said it was. If you notice, I actually said "Islamic apologists AND general ignorance." I was refering to the lack of knowledge of people in general on the internet, not specifically that of Muslims. That is why I never get my interpretations/information on religious texts from the internet. I prefer to speak to real people in the real world, who I know to be knowledgeable.
Oh and I contend your bold initial statement. Firstly, I don't know whether that's true or not. Secondly, the scientific research would have been done by people who were Muslims, but that doesn't mean Islam did it. Saying that Islam did it would imply that it's all in the Qur'an, which it clearly isn't.
You can't say that Muslims are on the forefront of science right now, because that isn't true;
"OIC [Organization of the Islamic Conference] countries have 8.5 scientists, engineers and technicians per 1,000 population as compared to 40.7 of world average and 139.3 for OECD [Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development] countries. The contribution of Muslim countries to world science literature is also meagre. Forty-six Muslim countries contribute 1.17 percent to world science literature as compared to 1.66 percent by India and 1.48 percent by Spain. Twenty Arab countries contribute 0.55 percent as compared to 0.89 percent by Israel alone."
(Anwar, M.; Abu Bakar, A. (1997-09-09) - Current state of science and technology in the Muslim world - Scientometrics Volume 40, Number 1, 23-44, DOI: 10.1007/BF02459260)
Once again, the originated from Muslims
, not Islam.
I have no problem with accepting that Muslims have contributed a lot to science (if what you say is true), but it doesn't make sense to say that Islam did it.
The inventor of fibre optics was a Sikh (Narinder Singh Kapany), but I wouldn't say that Sikhism invented it. One of the major pioneers of cosmic ray nuclear was a Sikh (Piara Singh Gill), but I wouldn't claim that Sikhism invented it. Hargobind Singh Khorana, the man who won a Nobel Prize for discovering how protein synthesis is related to DNA, was a Sikh, but I wouldn't say that Sikhism invented it.
In the same way you shouldn't claim that Islam invented/discovered these things. It was down to Muslims, not Islam. (Besides, you still haven't told me what amazing things they discovered....)
There is little evidence that shows that Islam caused these scientific development. There was no research conducted by Muslims during Muhammad's time (when you'd expect it to be at its peak if Islam was so scientific), and it took many decades after Muhammad's death for the Arabs to become interested in science. Do you not think that, in light of the evidence, there were some other factors involved in this?
I've seen a lot of videos, even ones from Mecca on Eid-Al-Adha, and they're all exactly the same.
But that doesn't negate the position that halal slaughter causes pain, hence it's pointless to bring that up. Unless you are trying to divert people's attention of course.