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    (Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
    What they are, is a black rights advocacy group. What they aren't, are a white-bashing racist organisation.
    LOL and you're typing that with a straight face aren't you? So you're telling me the current anti-White system in EVERY White country on this earth would not scream "hater bigot supremacist" if someone started up a White Rights Advocacy Group? I mean come on-Whites ARE the true minority in terms of worldwide population levels so why can't we have a White Rights Advocacy Group?

    Anti-racism is a code word for anti-White
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    I think racism is immature. Many young people are racist and I think this is due to what they see as a lack of care from the government who have so much to fix with their own country yet spend lots of time and money helping others.

    People wonder 'why not help us first'?

    Also many young people are easily misguided in life and often wonder 'wouldn't things be simpler if we was all told what to do? life wouldn't be so confusing.'

    Although this is all down to being a young confused white british person. At least this is often how i felt at time when I was 16ish years old.

    Obviously I grew up and was never really racist! I enjoyed spending time with my black and turkish friends too much.

    Too hate someone because of there skin colour seems childish.
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    (Original post by Tim Wise)
    LOL and you're typing that with a straight face aren't you? So you're telling me the current anti-White system in EVERY White country on this earth would not scream "hater bigot supremacist" if someone started up a White Rights Advocacy Group? I mean come on-Whites ARE the true minority in terms of worldwide population levels so why can't we have a White Rights Advocacy Group?

    Anti-racism is a code word for anti-White
    A white-advocacy group is hard to conceive of where said people are the overwhelming majority. It's not inconceivable, but if they did exist without a hint of racism, it would be pointless. What exactly would they be doing?

    Jesus christ you're an absolute moron. Advocacy groups act to serve the interests of minorities within a singular nation, or within a wider majority. Not to simply promote some 'white agenda' (whatever the hell that would be) on a global scale.
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    Okay, first of all any kind of union which seeks to promote a race e.g. black, white, asian nationalism and so on is wrong and racist.

    The problem is that people are so focused on maintaining discrimination be it positive discrimination against whites or anything other, that racism is fully increased.

    The only to solve this is to stop banging on about color and accept every man and woman on his/her own individual merits and leave color out of it.
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    (Original post by Tim Wise)
    Link me to just ONE "anti-racist" campaign in Europe or one "racist" scandal that does NOT portray Whites as the perpetrators of "racism."

    Anti-racism IS a code word for anti-White, and most of the anti-Whites are just "educated" White people. Everyone who has grown out of their "education" realizes its called treason, it happens all the time.
    irritatingly trying to research racism against whites just leads to people complaining about it or claiming it doesn't exist. but as far as I can tell, racism against whites is normally either low level, where it is street thugs in no position of power acting like dicks, or in misguided but not malevolent attempts at diversity from the government (seriously, reverse discrimination can **** right off). there is little high level racism against whites, so there are no large scandals or need for campaign groups. then again, racism against balcks is low enough that I don't really think there is much need for campaign groups for them (the group in the OP are just retarded) and some groups against reverse discrimination would not be unwelcome

    and well done, ignoring my whole point on anti-racism. give me a straight answer, how does believing people should be judged based on themselves not their race equate to being against white people. the other day my friend stood up against a bunch of people on a bus telling a 12 year old black kid to go back to where he came from, does that mean he is a self hating lib-tard?
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    (Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
    A white-advocacy group is hard to conceive of where said people are the overwhelming majority. It's not inconceivable, but if they did exist without a hint of racism, it would be pointless. What exactly would they be doing?

    Jesus christ you're an absolute moron. Advocacy groups act to serve the interests of minorities within a singular nation, or within a wider majority. Not to simply promote some 'white agenda' (whatever the hell that would be) on a global scale.
    Stop being so narrow minded. We live in a "global community" now don't you know, its the "modern world" that's why all White countries have to become diverse via mass immigration and assimilation, the "world is getting smaller" its the "global village."

    So as i said i just said, In the scheme of things, worldwide Whites are the true minorities. We are minority status. So why can't we have just one White advocacy group? You seem to think it would be somehow "racist" if we did? :rolleyes:

    Or are you really just an anti-White?

    Anti-racism is a code word for anti-White
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    (Original post by lucaf)
    irritatingly trying to research racism against whites just leads to people complaining about it or claiming it doesn't exist. but as far as I can tell, racism against whites is normally either low level, where it is street thugs in no position of power acting like dicks, or in misguided but not malevolent attempts at diversity from the government (seriously, reverse discrimination can **** right off). there is little high level racism against whites, so there are no large scandals or need for campaign groups. then again, racism against balcks is low enough that I don't really think there is much need for campaign groups for them (the group in the OP are just retarded) and some groups against reverse discrimination would not be unwelcome

    and well done, ignoring my whole point on anti-racism. give me a straight answer, how does believing people should be judged based on themselves not their race equate to being against white people. the other day my friend stood up against a bunch of people on a bus telling a 12 year old black kid to go back to where he came from, does that mean he is a self hating lib-tard?
    So you can't link me to any "anti-racism" campaign or "racist" media scandal that does not feature Whites as the perpetrators?

    This "story" of your "friend" standing up to some people is immaterial. I asked you to provide me evidence that could counter anti-racism is a code word for anti-White and you could not.
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    (Original post by Tim Wise)
    Stop being so narrow minded. We live in a "global community" now don't you know, its the "modern world" that's why all White countries have to become diverse via mass immigration and assimilation, the "world is getting smaller" its the "global village."

    So as i said i just said, In the scheme of things, worldwide Whites are the true minorities. We are minority status. So why can't we have just one White advocacy group? You seem to think it would be somehow "racist" if we did? :rolleyes:

    Or are you really just an anti-White?

    Anti-racism is a code word for anti-White
    its weird I know, but the people who decide our immigration and diversity policies have little say in the policies of other countries. shocking right!

    advocacy groups work within a country, there is little need for a white advocacy group in a predominately white country. in places where they are minorities, there is no reason why they shouldn't. but on a worldwide level, what would be the point?
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    (Original post by Zeffy)
    Still, at least the EDL got good numbers of around 3000.
    I say this for the whole of tsr...and humanity

    shut the **** up
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    (Original post by apolocreed)
    I say this for the whole of tsr...and humanity

    shut the **** up
    Negged you by accident, sorry.
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    You guys why pick on the EDL. They are a completely peace-ful organisation.

    I mean just a few Journalist who have covered EDL marches have received death threats and been intimidated by them.
    They're been investigated by the police; that's only because the police are "liberal lunatics".
    EDL members might have attacked a sky news van and thrown fireworks, smokebombs and bricks at police as well as smashing windows of the city's International Arts Centre, but they are STILL PEACEFUL.

    lol - I got sick and tired of typing all their crimes out (there are waaay too many), BUT THEY'RE STILL PEACEFUL.

    Tommy Robinson isn't a terrorist or anything, he's only been arrested for attacking a few of duty police officers.
    He's a "political prisoner" and while in prison he attempted a hunger strike for 24hrs and then decided to give up.

    The EDL are standing up for the non-existant white genocide, despite the fact they didn't say a word about the very real Darfur genocide. The white genocide is far more important, despite it doesn't exist. Despite the fact "whites" have been the ones to commit some of the largest and well known and probably most atrocities known to man, these other people are systematically getting rid of "white" people now. "White" government and "white" countries are currently ignoring this "white" genocide. I wonder how the EU and the American government can possibly ignore a white genocide, despite most of their members are white (and most people in western politics are white). lol. (Anyone else find this very unusual).

    EDL is completely peaceful, and it's utterly disgusting how Black and Asian people want to equality, despite the fact black and asian teenager are far more likely to be stopped and searched by the police with "random" counter terror checks. This is completely called for - right? The colour of their skin means these asian and black kids are terrorists who want to get ride of white people - right? In america "black ghettoes" are unheard of, in fact there are millions and millions of "white ghettoes". The "middle class white man" is almost extinct due to this genocide, I never see "white people" on TV any more. 85.67% of this country is not White. Did I forget to mention that most of the worlds billionaires according to the forbes list are not "White". (lol - just in case you don't get the sarcasm they're mostly white). There's a still a white genocide, despite the fact most the people who hold positions of power are white ^^
    So is it just me, or are white people killing white people? If there is a White genocide - since most the guys who make the major decisions are white. How weird.

    lol.
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    (Original post by Tim Wise)
    So you can't link me to any "anti-racism" campaign or "racist" media scandal that does not feature Whites as the perpetrators?

    This "story" of your "friend" standing up to some people is immaterial. I asked you to provide me evidence that could counter anti-racism is a code word for anti-White and you could not.
    nope, couldn't find any. there is admittedly a media bias, although have you got any actual cases of high profile antiwhite racism? genuinely interested.

    thats odd, I can't find any posts where you asked me that. in fact I asked you to support your statement that anti-racism is a code word for anti-White first, and you haven't. true anti-racism (like in my example that you for some reason seem to doubt is true) is simply being against racism, and believing people shouldn't judge people based on skin colour. as I keep saying, I believe that people should be judged purely on themselves and their actions. how on earth does that make me against whites?
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    (Original post by Zeffy)
    Photographs from the pathetic Anti-EDL demo.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/station...57629609024044

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/ectomorfo/7146128521/



    Why is that not considered racist? How can an organisation exist that hopes to "fight for black liberation, education and equality"?

    That's racist. If there was a White Students Campaign it would be shouted down by middle-class white lib-tards as been racist.

    Why do these blacks need to bring race into everything? Why do they deserve preferential treatment?

    They need to get rid of the chip off their shoulder and realise that the days of racism towards blacks are long gone and that today, theya re on the whole regarded as equals and have the exact same chances and opportunities for education and equality as whites too.

    Possibly even more so given the fact they can apparently have obvious racist organisations such as this focussing on an openly obvious black agenda without being called out on it.

    Even worse, the so called "anti-racist" UAF stood side by side with this group of racists.


    Still, at least the EDL got good numbers of around 3000.
    These "blacks" consist of a lot of "whites". Racist is caring about someones skin colour which is basically irrelevant. No?
    The actual point of equality appears to be about equal rights for all. Black, white, green, Straight, gay, confused...
    As for no difference in education etc, please attach the paper you have written on this with evidence of that. Looking forward to it.
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    (Original post by lucaf)
    its weird I know, but the people who decide our immigration and diversity policies have little say in the policies of other countries. shocking right!

    advocacy groups work within a country, there is little need for a white advocacy group in a predominately white country. in places where they are minorities, there is no reason why they shouldn't. but on a worldwide level, what would be the point?
    Seems to me like you are dancing all around the subject. Why is that? Can you clarify as i think i missed your response. I'll ask you for the third time and you can give me a simple yes or no if it helps. . Given that Whites are the true minorities worldwide are you saying that there can be no White Advocacy Group at all? No where? Not ever? Not even say......hmmmmm.......the WWWAG (World Wide White Adocacy Group) as a hypothetical example. I'd say anyone who objected to this was not anti-racist at all but really just anti-White using anti-racism as a guise to hide behind.
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    (Original post by dee4life2137)
    As for no difference in education etc, please attach the paper you have written on this with evidence of that. Looking forward to it.
    surely it is the job of them to give evidence that blacks do not have the same education standards? I am pretty sure all of the black students in my school have the same level of education as I do
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    (Original post by lucaf)
    nope, couldn't find any. there is admittedly a media bias, although have you got any actual cases of high profile antiwhite racism? genuinely interested.

    thats odd, I can't find any posts where you asked me that. in fact I asked you to support your statement that anti-racism is a code word for anti-White first, and you haven't. true anti-racism (like in my example that you for some reason seem to doubt is true) is simply being against racism, and believing people shouldn't judge people based on skin colour. as I keep saying, I believe that people should be judged purely on themselves and their actions. how on earth does that make me against whites?
    LOL strange that isn't it You can't find any and then you ask me with a straight face to show you anti-White racism cases. DUUUUUHHHHHH You just answered that yourself by not being able to find ANYTHING, NOT ONE example of high profile "racism" cases or anti-racist campaigns in Europe that did not castigate White people as evil "Racists" Funny stuff.

    I asked you to counter anti-racism is a code word for anti-White by way of proving i am right and you could not. So it sticks. Anti-racism is a code word for anti-White. Everyone who has grown out of their "education" knows this.
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    (Original post by Tim Wise)
    Seems to me like you are dancing all around the subject. Why is that? Can you clarify as i think i missed your response. I'll ask you for the third time and you can give me a simple yes or no if it helps. . Given that Whites are the true minorities worldwide are you saying that there can be no White Advocacy Group at all? No where? Not ever? Not even say......hmmmmm.......the WWWAG (World Wide White Adocacy Group) as a hypothetical example. I'd say anyone who objected to this was not anti-racist at all but really just anti-White using anti-racism as a guise to hide behind.
    I did say it would make sense to have them in countries where we are minorities. as for world wide, are there international advocacy groups for other races? if there are, then I don't see why we shouldn't have one as well, although the only reason I can see for an international advocacy group would be in cases of races that have been displaced and no longer have a homeland. a international advocacy group for blacks or whites seems pointless.
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    I'd side with the EDL over the UAF style people anyday.
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    (Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
    A white-advocacy group is hard to conceive of where said people are the overwhelming majority. It's not inconceivable, but if they did exist without a hint of racism, it would be pointless. What exactly would they be doing?
    Its more because we are meant to be an 'equal' society and because there isn't anything for whites whilst there is plently for non-whites, non-christians, non-straights etc. people get frustrated and annoyed because it comes across as special treatment (which to a large degree it is), and even though it would be pointless its more that it cements the notion that we are all equal and no one gains any extra-special privelleges.
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    (Original post by lucaf)
    surely it is the job of them to give evidence that blacks do not have the same education standards? I am pretty sure all of the black students in my school have the same level of education as I do
    You are at school :O ...

    Education isnt just the teacher saying one line to the class. Starts at home, includes socialising with others(which im sure will be great fun with people like yourself) and how peers, teachers etc act towards a person.
    Lets hope the school you attend actually tries to teach people how to see and treat other people properly before you leave as they dont appear to have done so thus far.

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