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  1. Martyn*'s Avatar
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    Ian Duncan Smith: Disabled people are lazy.
    I read between the lines. But that is what this man is saying about disabled people.

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...rs-at-disabled
    Last edited by Martyn*; 06-05-2012 at 10:56.
  2. najinaji's Avatar
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    Re: Ian Duncan Smith: Disabled people are lazy.
    I do love the complete and utter lack of bias in this article... :rolleyes:

    Anyway, from what I can see, he has a point. What's the point in giving people, disabled or not, a 'job' for the sake of giving them a job? If they're not actually doing anything, then they may as well not even be working at all.

    He didn't make any generalisations about disabled people in the UK at all.
  3. Martyn*'s Avatar
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    Re: Ian Duncan Smith: Disabled people are lazy.
    (Original post by najinaji)
    I do love the complete and utter lack of bias in this article... :rolleyes:

    Anyway, from what I can see, he has a point. What's the point in giving people, disabled or not, a 'job' for the sake of giving them a job? If they're not actually doing anything, then they may as well not even be working at all.

    He didn't make any generalisations about disabled people in the UK at all.
    Okay, he was not generalising but he said that all they do is drink coffee. He was condescending. There is a disabled person working in my local Job Centre, and she does not drink coffee all day. There is a disabled person working in the reception area of my GP's surgery. She does not drink coffee all day.

    IDS was showing his Tory contempt for the disadvantaged.
    Last edited by Martyn*; 06-05-2012 at 11:01.
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    Re: Ian Duncan Smith: Disabled people are lazy.
    I think you read what you wanted rather than read between the lines. He's talking purely about that factory and its output, not disabled people in general.

    From what I read he seems to be saying their factory work is no longer viable, and he thinks there are better alternatives. You can't just save jobs, the job has to exist or its just a fantasy benefit scheme to make people feel better.

    I'd like to see a video of it, just to see which quotes they have missed out. Not very tactful but the speech in the article does't seem to flow which would suggest there are bits missing.
    Last edited by doggyfizzel; 06-05-2012 at 11:02.
  5. Martyn*'s Avatar
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    Re: Ian Duncan Smith: Disabled people are lazy.
    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
    I think you read what you wanted rather than read between the lines. He's talking purely about that factory and its output, not disabled people in general.

    From what I read he seems to be saying their factory work is no longer viable, and he thinks there are better alternatives. You can't just save jobs, the job has to exist or its just a fantasy benefit scheme to make people feel better.

    I'd like to see a video of it, just to see which quotes they have missed out. Not very tactful but the speech in the article does't seem to flow which would suggest there are bits missing.
    That is probably true.
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    Re: Ian Duncan Smith: Disabled people are lazy.
    unfortunatey remploy is a massive burden on the government and does not produce enough goods for workers. it was created at a time when it was impossible for disabled people to get jobs but this is not the case anymore...
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    Re: Ian Duncan Smith: Disabled people are lazy.
    That article was so ridiculously imbalanced, I have absolutely nothing to say.
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    Re: Ian Duncan Smith: Disabled people are lazy.
    (Original post by Martyn*)
    Okay, he was not generalising but he said that all they do is drink coffee. He was condescending. There is a disabled person working in my local Job Centre, and she does not drink coffee all day. There is a disabled person working in the reception area of my GP's surgery. She does not drink coffee all day.

    IDS was showing his Tory contempt for the disadvantaged.
    He was just talking about the people he directly met, not every single disabled person in the UK...
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    Re: Ian Duncan Smith: Disabled people are lazy.
    The Remploy closures are one of the most fundamentally decent things I've heard of government doing in a while. They are, of course, maintaining the funding for disabled people to find employment - not to mention that disability charities have supported this move. It is utterly pathetic that there is any debate over it at all.

    (Original post by Martyn*)
    Okay, he was not generalising but he said that all they do is drink coffee. He was condescending. There is a disabled person working in my local Job Centre, and she does not drink coffee all day. There is a disabled person working in the reception area of my GP's surgery. She does not drink coffee all day.
    Yes, neither of whom work in Victorian-era segregated, unproductive employment as in Remploy factories.
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    Re: Ian Duncan Smith: Disabled people are lazy.
    That is the least biased article I have ever read in my life.
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