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Do transition metal ions (2+ or greater) ever have electrons in the 4s orbital?

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    I understand that when removing electrons from d-block elements, you remove the 4s one's first. Are there any d-block ions that have electrons in their 4s sub shell?
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    (Original post by tdx)
    I understand that when removing electrons from d-block elements, you remove the 4s one's first. Are there any d-block ions that have electrons in their 4s sub shell?
    I don't think so - you have to remove the 4s electrons first, meaning you'll automatically have 4s0 for a 2+ ion.
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    (Original post by thegodofgod)
    I don't think so - you have to remove the 4s electrons first, meaning you'll automatically have 4s0 for a 2+ ion.
    Ok, thanks reckon you could have a look at this question I have please about Ge4+? http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...5#post37421215

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