[edd360]

You will be fine, Cannabis is less dangerous than caffeine.

[n00]

(Original post by Anonymous)
Yeah, psychosis is soooooo funny.

Sorry. Didn't mean to laugh at your psychosis I just never realised psychosis could cause someone to post such moronic *******s.

[Anonymous]

(Original post by n00)
Sorry. Didn't mean to laugh at your psychosis I just never realised psychosis could cause someone to post such moronic *******s.

Just posting what my psychiatrist told me.

[frankieboy]

(Original post by Enigma.)
its common knowledge cannabis is a gateway drug

*** Double Facepalm ***

[n00]

(Original post by Anonymous)
Just posting what my psychiatrist told me.

I'd look at getting a different psychiatrist if thats the kind of thing they come out with.

[frankieboy]

The word "psychosis" is being bandied about a lot here. Never ever in my life have I met anyone who smoked cannabis with anything even approaching psychosis, and I've met a lot of drug takers.

The only people I've ever met who appear to have any form of psychosis do to narcotic intake seem to be drinkers. And sometimes heavy cocaine users.

The only psychosis apparent from Cannabis is for about 20 minutes if you smoke too much. Then it dissapates. Extremely mild and harmless when compared to other drugs.

[DaveSmith99]

(Original post by frankieboy)
The word "psychosis" is being bandied about a lot here. Never ever in my life have I met anyone who smoked cannabis with anything even approaching psychosis, and I've met a lot of drug takers.

The only people I've ever met who appear to have any form of psychosis do to narcotic intake seem to be drinkers. And sometimes heavy cocaine users.

The only psychosis apparent from Cannabis is for about 20 minutes if you smoke too much. Then it dissapates. Extremely mild and harmless when compared to other drugs.

The only person I know who developed psychosis was a heavy cocaine user as well.

[Anonymous]

(Original post by Spetznaaz)
So you have been smoking the strain Skunk #1 have you..? not a very strong strain you know.

No, you've not been smoking the strain skunk, you have most likely been smoking commercial ****e which is harvested early, meaning no CBD an too much THC, which is most likely what is causing the 'bad experiences'.

Either way, if you have bad experiences, why do you keep smoking it... maybe weed just isn't for you.

how do you know what ive been smoking?

i know it was skunk and the hardest part you could possibly smoke.

[frankieboy]

(Original post by Anonymous)
how do you know what ive been smoking?

i know it was skunk and the hardest part you could possibly smoke.

"Skunk" doesn't just refer to any old stinky bud. It's a particular strain. Pretty old and outdated now actually.

It's highly unlikely that what you've been smoking is in fact "skunk".

The mistake the tabloids in their infinite wisdom have made IMHO is to confuse "Skunk" which is a strain with "Sinsemilla" which is a "state" - seedless bud.

What people really mean when they say "skunk" is actually "sinsemilla". It's highly unlikely that the sinsemilla will be skunk per se. Not nowadays.

[Anonymous]

(Original post by frankieboy)
"Skunk" doesn't just refer to any old stinky bud. It's a particular strain. Pretty old and outdated now actually.

It's highly unlikely that what you've been smoking is in fact "skunk".

The mistake the tabloids in their infinite wisdom have made IMHO is to confuse "Skunk" which is a strain with "Sinsemilla" which is a "state" - seedless bud.

What people really mean when they say "skunk" is actually "sinsemilla". It's highly unlikely that the sinsemilla will be skunk per se. Not nowadays.

as i say again.

i was smoking skunk.

i know when most people say smoking weed they mean the ***** strains, but i honestly smoked skunk.

[frankieboy]

(Original post by Anonymous)
as i say again.

i was smoking skunk.

i know when most people say smoking weed they mean the ***** strains, but i honestly smoked skunk.

I think you have it the wrong way round. What we're saying is that you probably smoked something stronger than skunk, not weaker.

Nowadays the strains are generations more advanced than skunk. Usually skunk is used as the building blocks for these new strains. Skunk in itself was originally composed of building blocks of a few strains from around the world cross-bred. California orange, afghani, thai etc.

But since then, it has been replaced.

Ok, it could have been an actual skunk strain you were smoking, but chances are it was a newer strain than that, as a true skunk would be considered almost vintage nowadays, or retro.

Skunks clock in at around 10-17% thc if I remember right. Newer strains clock in at around the high teens, or sometimes early 20's percentage TCH-wise.

Just to dispel a few incorrect facts I read time and time again in the tabloids, and written by people who don't really know what they're on about (for the record ) - and that doesn't refer in any way to you, this is just general :

1 : Cannabis is not "Genetically modified". It is selectively bred. These two things are very different.

2 : The strong strains of cannabis are not "skunk" - although they could have traces of skunk in them from it being used in the selective breeding process.
The mistake people tend to make is to assume that because it's smelly, strong, and hasn't got any seeds that it's called "skunk". It's not. It's called "sinsemilla".
Skunk is a strain, sinsemilla is a "state" (perhaps a botanist could give the proper word for that?) - it means "without seed" - and what we're shooting for is sinsemilla flower.

3 : Even back in the 60's and way further back than that, if you were in Jamaica or Thailand etc. and had access to prime unfertilised female top bud of a top Jamaican/Thai strain, you'd be smoking something that would be very strong. Comparabale to what we get nowadays.
The myth that somehow we used to smoke really weak stuff, ad now it's all really strong stuff isn't really strictly speaking true. Really strong stuff has been around for ever. It's just that I understand it wasn't so prevailant in the UK until people started domestic growing. This however doesn't mean it wasn't prevailant in other Countries at that time.

4 : There's not really any proof of the psychosis link. There are some very reputable findings disputing this, and not from pro-cannabis sources either. It's just as possible that people with psychosis are drawn towards cannabis as they feel it helps them with the problem. Therefore appearing that it's the cannabis that has caused this problem, because hey ho the people with psychosis are found to be cannbis users. There's really no way of telling currently.

These fallacies are what the tabloids and people who don't really know what they're talking about spout again and again in their blind misinformed "opinion".

It's not really difficult to understand, but because of the prohibition, this misinformation is spread time and time again and everyone thinks they're smoking some kind of radioactive gentetically engineered weed that'll send them permanently crazy. Just goes to show the damage that prohibition does, hey.

The original reason weed was made illegal? Racism. If you look into it. The reason it's kept illegal? Well there's a variety, but when you can buy nurofen and paracetemol on the shelf at Tesco's which you could pretty easily kill yourself with if you had a mind to, what's the sense in outlawing something that has no toxic level apart from the ridiculous?

If weed was made legal, it would change society (for the better IMHO) but in the process would halt the flow of money going to various corporate sources which the Government rely on for income. That's the "conspiracy" view anyway.

I mean Christ read this article written by our reputable BBC :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8386344.stm

All the tired old mistakes made again and again. the blind leading the blind. "Skunk is stronger than hashish" - no it isn't. Proper hashish of a decent strain is way stronger than weed in any herbal form of any strain. What they mean to say is "Skunk (read modern sinsemilla) is stronger than the incredibly low grade resin Britain has been palmed off with up until now by the Countries of origin after they've sold all the good stuff elsewhere.". A bit like saying "D'oh! This new kind of 7% proof ale is really dangerous compared to Tesco 2% light lager".

"Skunk" (read sinsemilla of modern strain) is how strong it's meant to be.

Sorry about the rant, it just gets on my wick all this misinformation being spread around. If you want to learn about ganja, ask Howard Marks, not the blimmin' BBC.

Disclaimer - Nothing of what I've written here is written through personal experience.

[natalieann1993]

If you overdose on weed, you throw up and for asleep
If you overdose on alcohol, you end up in hospital.

And cannabis is not a gateway drug.
Many people try MDMA, Coke and other class A's, when drunk not high.
The first time i took MDMA is after drinking at a house party at uni.

Weed relaxes you, makes things more peaceful and slower.
Alcohol makes things more energetic, which is why people drink when they go up town.
MDMA and coke also enhance this energetic experience.
People who drink alcohol are probably more unaware of where to get the drugs from, as weed smokers do have to experience the black markert. But i bet the majority of binge drinkers wont turn down a class A if someone got it for them.

I found out i had a serious medical conidtion in my stomach, which was only diagnosed after a few months of binge drinking with friends (we were just typical teenagers) alcohol has destroyed my stomach, and im now on painkillers all day everyday and due an operation.
Not saying it wasnt my own stupidity that destroyed my health, but no spliff has ever put me in hospital.

[Wilfred Little]

(Original post by natalieann1993)
If you overdose on weed, you throw up and for asleep
If you overdose on alcohol, you end up in hospital.

And cannabis is not a gateway drug.
Many people try MDMA, Coke and other class A's, when drunk not high.
The first time i took MDMA is after drinking at a house party at uni.

Weed relaxes you, makes things more peaceful and slower.
Alcohol makes things more energetic, which is why people drink when they go up town.
MDMA and coke also enhance this energetic experience.
People who drink alcohol are probably more unaware of where to get the drugs from, as weed smokers do have to experience the black markert. But i bet the majority of binge drinkers wont turn down a class A if someone got it for them.

I found out i had a serious medical conidtion in my stomach, which was only diagnosed after a few months of binge drinking with friends (we were just typical teenagers) alcohol has destroyed my stomach, and im now on painkillers all day everyday and due an operation.
Not saying it wasnt my own stupidity that destroyed my health, but no spliff has ever put me in hospital.

Good post, I'm not one of those hippy-types but I honestly don't think weed is that bad.

I wouldn't say it always relaxes you though, my heart races sometimes when I smoke it (which is never since 2009), it can make you very anxious.

Some interesting points you made about binge drinkers and class A's too, which I agree with.

[Skarm]

In for 100 pages of cannabis supporters claiming the plant cures everything from HIV to bone cancer.

[Wilfred Little]

(Original post by Skarm)
In for 100 pages of cannabis supporters claiming the plant cures everything from HIV to bone cancer.

lol yeah.

That's what I was worried about when I posted, coming across like one of those.

Still don't think it's that bad though.

[DudeRugs]

(Original post by Skarm)
In for 100 pages of cannabis supporters claiming the plant cures everything from HIV to bone cancer.

lolz

http://www.biomedcentral.com/content...-7517-2-21.pdf

"Furthermore, compounds found in cannabis have been
shown to kill numerous cancer types including: lung cancer [9], breast and prostate [10], leukemia and lymphoma
[11], glioma [12], skin cancer [13], and pheochromocytoma [14]. The effects of cannabinoids are complex and
sometimes contradicting, often exhibiting biphasic
responses. For example, in contrast to the tumor killing
properties mentioned above, low doses of THC may stimulate the growth of lung cancer cells in vitro [15]."


http://www.harmreductionjournal.com/content/2/1/17

"Possibly the greatest harm-reducing potential afforded by cannabinoids comes from their use by cancer patients. Cannabinoids possess numerous pharmacological properties that are often beneficial to cancer patients."

"Numerous cancer types are killed in cell cultures and in animals by cannabinoids. For example, cannabinoids kill the cancer cells of various lymphoblastic malignancies such as leukemia and lymphoma [68], skin cancer [69], glioma [70], breast and prostate cancer [71], pheochromocytoma [72], thyroid cancer [73], and colorectal cancer[74]."

Weed cures cancer yay!

[frankieboy]

(Original post by Skarm)
In for 100 pages of cannabis supporters claiming the plant cures everything from HIV to bone cancer.

Well, it can certainly help with insomnia

[Tom26070]

Tobacco is more dangerous than Cannabis.

[pr0view]

(Original post by Anonymous)
Ive done something really bad, and have been smoking skunk on average about twice a week for about 4 months. It is really strong and i often overdose on it i.e. have bad experiences.

I have been looking up the effects of skunk and didnt realise it was so dangerous. It says regular users are at risk of psychosis etc.

If I give it up now am I going to get psychosis? Also what do they class as a regular user? Is doing it twice a week regular?

I used to smoke it several nights a week for about 10 months and ended up having panic attacks and felt i was going crazy. However if you quit now you will be fine.

I presume you think you are going crazy now seeing as you are asking us and once you start worrying about it, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy as you worry about how much you are worrying. However if you accept it was bad and quit you will recover easily.

I found quitting a very purifying process and your mind becomes so much clearer.

And i suggest you ignore idiots who say it causes no harm they are fools. All hallucinogenic drugs have the ability to make people mentally ill you wouldn't tell people that LSD was harmless would you.

[Malkmus]

(Original post by Tom26070)
Tobacco is more dangerous than Cannabis.

Yeah, tobacco is more dangerous than the majority of illegal drugs though. The likes of MDMA, acid, weed etc. are far less dangerous than tobacco and alcohol and this is coming from somebody who is a smoker and a drinker.

The majority of people chat so much bull about drugs because they believe everything they read in the news and have zero experience of either taking drugs or encountering people who have. And when people like Professor Nutt speak up, they're castigated for their more than valid opinions.