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    Biology Paper 6 (6BI08) 2012 Official
    I couldnt find a thread for unit 6 biology 2012 so i decided to create one so that we can share what we've got..
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    Last edited by demdil; 08-05-2012 at 19:26.
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    awww bless you demdil
    You're amazing
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    i just wish ecological sampling doesnt come , im beginning to hate it
    ok anyway can someone explain to me how is 0.05 somewhere 5% significance level and somewhere 95% confidence level ??! and why does it even matter ??!
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    i just wish ecological sampling doesnt come , im beginning to hate it
    ok anyway can someone explain to me how is 0.05 somewhere 5% significance level and somewhere 95% confidence level ??! and why does it even matter ??!
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    also i think that mark schemes are very similar from year to year , for example in the question asking for some preliminary work (4 marks)we can write :_
    - independent variable
    - how to control that
    - dependent variable
    - how to measure that
    - practice method beforehand
    - choose a timescale to record/measure the dependant variable
    - find out most suitable conditions for the experiment and try to execute them when experimenting !

    someone else please share more ideas like this !!! not much time left now !! can feel the nerves ....!
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    (Original post by iesians)
    i just wish ecological sampling doesnt come , im beginning to hate it
    ok anyway can someone explain to me how is 0.05 somewhere 5% significance level and somewhere 95% confidence level ??! and why does it even matter ??!
    i only know that in biology they always use 0.05 significance level, and that means they are 0.05(5/100) unsure and 0.95(95/100) sure. So the conclusions drawn are always at 95% confidence level(they are 95% sure).. I dont know if i explained well, because i think its about statistics and i never took any statistics lesson :/ .. hope i helped..
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    awww bless you demdil
    You're amazing
    thanks these are from previous paper 6 threads but i only collected them and posted them here. so we can have our own thread and ask each other questions and help each other .. i'd be happy if anyone finds other resources or anything about paper 6 from either TSR or somewhere else and share with us ..
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    thanks these are from previous paper 6 threads but i only collected them and posted them here. so we can have our own thread and ask each other questions and help each other .. i'd be happy if anyone finds other resources or anything about paper 6 from either TSR or somewhere else and share with us ..
    i wanted to ask a question .... how can we know from data if v have to use spearman rank or T test ??! and anyway i know spearman is for finding out a correlation .....what is T test for ??! or it just tells or if null hypothesis is correct or not ....?!
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    i wanted to ask a question .... how can we know from data if v have to use spearman rank or T test ??! and anyway i know spearman is for finding out a correlation .....what is T test for ??! or it just tells or if null hypothesis is correct or not ....?!
    t-test is for comparing two groups. in t-test, if the calculated t-value(given in the question) is greater than the critical value given in the table, we reject the null hypotesis and conclude that there is a difference between our two groups.
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    t-test is for comparing two groups. in t-test, if the calculated t-value(given in the question) is greater than the critical value given in the table, we reject the null hypotesis and conclude that there is a difference between our two groups.
    comparing two groups ?? can you clarify it a bit more ...... we compare two groups in what sense , to know correlation or what ??!
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    comparing two groups ?? can you clarify it a bit more ...... we compare two groups in what sense , to know correlation or what ??!
    i'Ll try.. i can give some examples; t-test is when we compare the heights of plants in two different ecological areas, or comparing masses of two groups of students(this was on one paper, one group of students had breakfast regularly, the other group didnt) and t-test is not for correlation, its for comparison, to see the difference in mass/height etc. between two groups. Also you can decide whether or not to do a t-test by looking at the data, if the data has at least 30 values and if data is normally distributed then you carry out t-test. (remember from unit 2 biology; normal distribution etc) eg. height is continuous data so normally distributed therefore t-test ..

    if its like different concentrations of something on another variable -> not continuous as we know the concentrations (if its 5%, or 15%, its clear) and that means we're looking for correlation between the two.

    so; if normally distributed data with more than 30 values present, and two groups are compared -> t-test
    if discrete data(5% concentration) and like 5-10 values present(eg. 5 different concentrations used) and two variables given -> then spearmans rank correlation.

    english is my second lang. and i dont know if i explaned well but i hope i did
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    i'Ll try.. i can give some examples; t-test is when we compare the heights of plants in two different ecological areas, or comparing masses of two groups of students(this was on one paper, one group of students had breakfast regularly, the other group didnt) and t-test is not for correlation, its for comparison, to see the difference in mass/height etc. between two groups. Also you can decide whether or not to do a t-test by looking at the data, if the data has at least 30 values and if data is normally distributed then you carry out t-test. (remember from unit 2 biology; normal distribution etc) eg. height is continuous data so normally distributed therefore t-test ..

    if its like different concentrations of something on another variable -> not continuous as we know the concentrations (if its 5%, or 15%, its clear) and that means we're looking for correlation between the two.

    so; if normally distributed data with more than 30 values present, and two groups are compared -> t-test
    if discrete data(5% concentration) and like 5-10 values present(eg. 5 different concentrations used) and two variables given -> then spearmans rank correlation.


    english is my second lang. and i dont know if i explaned well but i hope i did
    wow ! u explained that part like a pro !! loved it !! thank you so much !! best of luck for exam .....share more stuff , techniques , strategies , .....
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    UNIT 6B

    QUESTION 1
    part ( a )
    :: Experiment procedure (5marks)
    procedure
    control
    repetition of the experiment
    measuring the data
    variables(dependent/independent)
    controlling variables
    safety measures

    part ( b )
    :: related to variables
    dependent/independent
    eg)name a variable (related to the procedure given)

    part ( c )
    :: how can we control that variable
    :: if not controlled what will be the effect (effect on dependent variable)

    part ( d )
    :: (factor given i the question)if not controlled what will be the effect
    (total 9 marks)

    QUESTION 2
    part ( a )
    :: null hypothesis(negative of the statement given)

    part ( b )
    :: ethical reason

    part ( c )
    :: Calculation of mean

    part ( d )
    :: preparation of the table
    : table format should be suitable
    : correct column/rows with accurate headings
    : calculate mean
    : correct values

    part ( e )
    :: graph
    : suitable graph
    : axes labelled with correct unit
    : correctly plotted values

    part ( f )
    : correlation coefficient

    (total 16 marks)


    Some clues.....Hope for the best.....
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    That's all fine, but what do we mention when it comes to writing electrophoresis and PCR? Is that even possible for it to come in the first question?

    Also I always learnt it as T-Test = bar graph and Spearman = scatter graph. Is this wrong?
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    That's all fine, but what do we mention when it comes to writing electrophoresis and PCR? Is that even possible for it to come in the first question?

    Also I always learnt it as T-Test = bar graph and Spearman = scatter graph. Is this wrong?
    PCR and electrophoresis may come as first question but not as third. But i dont know what do we have to mention :/
    t-test-> bar chart/ histogram
    spearman-> line graph/ scatter diagram is okay
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    PCR and electrophoresis may come as first question but not as third. But i dont know what do we have to mention :/
    t-test-> bar chart/ histogram
    spearman-> line graph/ scatter diagram is okay
    Exactly. Every book is pretty vague when it comes to this. Can someone please shed a light on what comes for electrophoresis/PCR?

    Also demdil, please check inbox
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    Exactly. Every book is pretty vague when it comes to this. Can someone please shed a light on what comes for electrophoresis/PCR?

    Also demdil, please check inbox
    ok emme give a good try :-
    CLUELESS ABOUT ELECTROPHORESIS !!

    PCR :- mix the original DNA sample into a PCR machine which is already filled with DNA polymerases , DNA primers and all the four nucleotides .
    first heat the mixture at 95C , this will break the hydrogen bonds between the orginial DNA strands .
    cool till 45 - 50C , at this temperature DNA primers will attach to specific regions on the strands of DNA.
    bring the temperature to about 75C , as this is the optimum temperature for DNA polymerase catalysis !
    repeat this cycle about 20-30 times to get innumerable DNA strands similar to the original sample !

    i think PCR wont come cuz it came in jan 2012 bio unit 4 ....hmmmm
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    WHAT IF VITAMIN C COMES IN FIRST QUESTION ??!!! im dead !
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