Why are so many British people supporting Bayern over Chelsea?
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Re: Why are so many British people supporting Bayern over Chelsea?I'd rather see Newcastle finish 4th and get into the Champs League than see Chelsea beating Bayern.(Original post by 0906079)
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Re: Why are so many British people supporting Bayern over Chelsea?
Chelsea as a football club, like other clubs have a proportion of people who will dislike them for a variety of reasons, perhaps for their association with the modern day organised crime / political extremist face of hooliganism, or perhaps because the club ' sold out' to foreign owners, has had a succession of foreign mangers and foreign players ...
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Re: Why are so many British people supporting Bayern over Chelsea?
To answer the OP's question, it's because I am personally quite fickle with who I support in club football. I'll support my first team, Oldham Athletic, miles above anyone else but after that, it depends on my mood. I'm going to be a Bayern fan on the 19th May purely because the CL has had more than one English, Spanish and Italian winner in the 12 years since a German team last won it. So I'm punting for the Bavarians purely to see it mixed up a bit.
And also because Bayern have Anatoliy Tymoshchuk. My family is Ukrainian so if you have a Uke in the side, I'm more likely to support you
Both equally crap reasons but hey ho... auf get's Bayern!! -
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Chelsea barely have any 'english' players at all. Supporting Bayern Munchen isn't supporting Germany.
They just hate Chelsea. A Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham fan supporting Chelsea would be just wrong. You can't expect fans to support their rivals just because they're playing a foreign outfit. -
Re: Why are so many British people supporting Bayern over Chelsea?(Original post by NDGAARONDI)
Plastic because of the artificially created atmosphere? If so, fair enough. A move to Battersea may help change this over time, plus there is speculation that an area for standing will be accommodated. Both should reduce the need for artificially inducing atmospheres on grounds that are just bums on seats. The best footballing atmospheres I've seen all allow standing. Or plastic because they threaten the old guard of established clubs/imaginery cartel?
Any need? I do find it interesting how many times what university I go to gets brought up randomly now that I've put it in my signature. I got 440 points and could easily have taken a year out to reapply but Trent suited me since the City campus is relatively small and I have cerebral palsy so it means less walking.It's not unknown people to use terminology that puts down newcomers on the scene, for which I was alluded to when I saw you are studying at an ex-poly.
Chelsea got their success though but because of Roman's interference haven't been able to maintain it. Also the player power has clearly had an adverse effect too. The team plays when it wants to play. Remember Scolari? The parallels to AVB are eye-opening. Drogba was pathetic near the end of Scolari's reign, put in no effort whatsoever. Then you had Hiddink come along and use his magical powers to have Chelsea minutes away from a Champions League Final, or it was down to the players playing to their full ability because they were happy to be rid of Scolari, just like they're happy now to be rid of AVB.You can spend all the millions you like but it doesn't equate with success always.
The net spend since FSG bought the club has been £37m.Liverpool spent £120m and have won the League Cup on penalties against Cardiff.
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No excuse though for spending £20m on Downing. Liverpool have done some bad business, no way of getting around that.
Comparing Liverpool's spending to Chelsea though is ridiculous. Roman wrote his managers an open cheque to go out and buy success. Dalglish was provided with a budget based on the sale of Torres and failed to deliver. At first glance it does appear Liverpool spent massively only to fail miserably in the league this season, but as I've pointed out, the net spend is not that high at all. FSG aren't owners willing to splash.Everton could finish higher in the league and they never have any money to spend relatively speaking. If Roman wishes to sack managers he does so. His money, not sure why it's anybody else's business, mind. It would be better to sack failing managers than reward mediocrity like investment banks have done with bonuses.
So I stand by my point of there's nothing to admire about Chelsea since they have bought their way into the position they are, their owner interferes too much, the players have too much power and the fans aren't the classiest.Last edited by The Dynamic Uno; 10-05-2012 at 21:53. -
Re: Why are so many British people supporting Bayern over Chelsea?
Because every single neutral has become obsessed with Barcelona's Tika Taka passing style and Chelsea don't play like that + they knocked out Messi who everyone loves more than English players. So why would they want a team who play "Boring" football to win.
Personally I want Chelsea to win to save some pride for the BPL as the other 3 in the CL were embarrasing. -
Re: Why are so many British people supporting Bayern over Chelsea?Maybe many people don't like the way in which all of Chelsea's recent success wouldn't have come about were it not for some billionaire playing real world football manager. Sure, all teams have to spend big to keep up, but do teams like Chelsea really earn their success, or is it bought for them? Any club could do well with enough financial backing. I'm all for Bayern.(Original post by 0906079)
I don't understand this. I was in Germany a few days ago and EVERY football fan I met, Bayern supporter or not, wanted them to beat Chelsea. Back in UK it's like half the people passionately want Chelsea to lose.
I understand the logic that Bayern might play "better" football but still, I can't believe how many British people are not supporting Chelsea. I might be a bit bias because I support Chelsea myself but even in the past I've always supported the British team.
This isn't just in football. In tennis, some people are happy to see Andy Murray lose every match. In cricket, some people are happy to support countries like India and Australia over England even if we're the better team. In the World Cup, football, rugby or cricket, there are always people who want us to lose.
I wasn't even born in this country but I support England and any British team whenever they play against anyone else. Why the hate people? Some Germans didn't believe me when I told them that people back home were supporting Bayern yet here it seems so common. -
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As a Man United fan , I'm shouting for Chelsea, shouted for Arsenal in '06, shouted for Liverpool in 05 and 07. I also want them to win because Di Matteo has transformed them with some fantastic performances in the CL.
Would I shout for Man City if they reached the final? No chance -
Re: Why are so many British people supporting Bayern over Chelsea?In a nutshell. Clubs like Arsenal, Newcastle and Spurs would be getting a lot more support.(Original post by Aquinas)
Because Chelsea are the antithesis of what many football fans believe a club should be and stand for, that's why. -
Re: Why are so many British people supporting Bayern over Chelsea?No you don't.(Original post by 0906079)
So you'd rather see one of the biggest trophies in the world go to another country than yours, just because you're not a fan of Chelsea? We have the best league in the world, shouldn't people be happy that a team from our country is doing so well?
As for your analogy, to come through two matches scoring more goals than the best team in history if anything you should admire Chelsea's guts. -
Re: Why are so many British people supporting Bayern over Chelsea?
Arbitrarily supporting a team from your own country against another for no reason other than blind patriotism is complete *******s.
I want Bayern to win because they are a club with a rich history and tradition. They play great football and to be fair, i'm a little biased as they are one of my favourite teams in world football.
Chelsea in comparison were always an utterly average team until they got bankrolled by a mega rich guy and got to the top by buying their way to it (not the first to do it and will not be the last). To top it off they have absolutely no class and half of their fans, who are extremely arrogant, only started supporting them at the start of the Abramovich era. -
Re: Why are so many British people supporting Bayern over Chelsea?Chelsea were seen as being "team inconsistant" in the 70s till mid 90s.(Original post by The Baron)
Arbitrarily supporting a team from your own country against another for no reason other than blind patriotism is complete *******s.
I want Bayern to win because they are a club with a rich history and tradition. They play great football and to be fair, i'm a little biased as they are one of my favourite teams in world football.
Chelsea in comparison were always an utterly average team until they got bankrolled by a mega rich guy and got to the top by buying their way to it (not the first to do it and will not be the last). To top it off they have absolutely no class and half of their fans, who are extremely arrogant, only started supporting them at the start of the Abramovich era.
However, between 1997 and 2003 they won two FA Cups and a Cup Winners Cup and qualified for the Champions League twice before the Abramovich money, so hardly average. It was a good foundation upon which to build and unlike, say, Manchester City who were a mediocore Premier League team, with no recent Cup final or Champions League (or even much European football at all) over the last 30 years.
You might think that only places them as average, but it still puts them as the third most succesful English club of that time period behind Manchester United and Arsenal. Newcastle finsihed as PL runners up and FA Cup runners up twice in that time period, and had seasons of CL football, but, famously, haven't won anything since 1969. Leeds started to develop as a threat both domestically and in the CL but we know how that turned out. Tottenham won one single League Cup. Liverpool won an FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup in 2001 but didn't do much else...Last edited by River85; 09-05-2012 at 19:18. -
Re: Why are so many British people supporting Bayern over Chelsea?
I'm a Bolton Wanderers fan. I'll be supporting Chelsea as an English club.
However, if it was Manchester United I'd be praying for them to get absolutely thrashed. I probably wouldn't support Liverpool either. Or Wigan or Bury (not that they'll be in a CL final) because I know they wouldn't be supporting us if we were there. -
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Supporting bayern, because I can't stand john terry. Anyone who watched the liverpool game yesterday will agree that its hilarious when the 'captain-leader-legend' flops, and it was hilarious when he cried in moscow. i'm hoping for a repeat.
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Normally I'd want the English team to win but after watching Drogba try to win an Oscar against Barcelona and Chelsea fans disrespecting the Hillsborough silence in the FA Cup semi final I want them to lose. Well that and I'm a Newcastle fan. Even if we finish 5th I want Chelsea to lose.
