[Pindar]

After announcing they had thwarted a new terrorist attack against America and captured a terrorist red-handed, the CIA now claim that it was actually their mole in Al Qaeda, who managed to persuade the group he wanted to carry out a suicide bombing. A highly sophisticated underwear bomb was designed, then whilst carrying the bomb the CIA operative was apprehended by his superiors before the bomb could board a plane destined for America.

The bomber's name has been made secret and is now said to be taking safe haven in Saudi Arabia. Fresh urgent calls for tighter airport security have been made to be able to examine contents of all passengers' underwear and more stringent screening in airports.

The State Department and the White House had assured the American public that they knew of no al-Qaeda plots against the U.S. at all around the anniversary of bin Laden's death. The operation was carried out over the past few weeks, officials said. "We have no credible information that terrorist organizations, including al-Qaeda, are plotting attacks in the U.S. to coincide with the anniversary of bin Laden's death," White House press secretary Jay Carney said on April 26. On May 1, the Department of Homeland Security said, "We have no indication of any specific, credible threats or plots against the U.S. tied to the one-year anniversary of bin Laden's death."

However now Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has admitted she was aware “for some time” of a foiled terrorist plot to blow up a U.S. airliner and said she’s “known about the efforts to do something like it even longer.”

And then the White House revealed Obama was briefed about the plot in early April. The Associated Press learned of the plot last week but only broke the story late Monday after being censored and told by the White House that they couldn't publish it for several days.

Obama has been recently celebrating the anniversary of his successful assassination of Osama Bin Laden and his family, this latest news he hopes was timed well and will boost his popularity for the upcoming 2012 elections, and serve as a reminder that the age of terror and fear is not yet over.

Thoughts?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18000351
http://www.globalnews.ca/al+qaida+bo...254/story.html

[Algorithm69]

So are you afraid to post the actual source of what you posted? I cannot find it online anywhere. Did you write it yourself? Neither of your links say he helped Al-Qaeda actually design the bomb, or that he attempted to board a plane and was apprehended, but that he delivered the bomb to the CIA himself. Your post above makes it seem as if he was a double-agent or something, and was actually going to carry out the attack. Thanks to this operation, America now not only has a device they can study, but they also have information on the members of the group, and the operative's intelligence helped kill Fahd al-Quso.

So my thoughts are well done to America for a very well-executed mission.

[the bear]

(Original post by Algorithm69)
So are you afraid to post the actual source of what you posted? I cannot find it online anywhere. Did you write it yourself? Neither of your links say he helped Al-Qaeda actually design the bomb, or that he attempted to board a plane and was apprehended, but that he delivered the bomb to the CIA himself. Your post above makes it seem as if he was a double-agent or something, and was actually going to carry out the attack. Thanks to this operation, America now not only has a device they can study, but they also have information on the members of the group, and the operative's intelligence helped kill Fahd al-Quso.

So my thoughts are well done to America for a very well-executed mission.

My rep weapon has jammed...
Great post buddy.
For the record the terrorist's family was not killed in the raid on his sordid lair.
Mr Obama is doing a great job fighting the enemies of freedom

[BusheSCFC]

Stefan your a massive terrorist. You defeneded Abu Quatada and now you're defending this guy.

[Pindar]

(Original post by Algorithm69)
Your post above makes it seem as if he was a double-agent or something

He WAS a double agent, this has already been admitted now. Read the articles.

(Original post by Algorithm69)
So my thoughts are well done to America for a very well-executed mission.

Well done for attempting to bomb themselves?
That's an odd thing to say.

[Pindar]

(Original post by BusheSCFC)
Stefan your a massive terrorist. You defeneded Abu Quatada and now you're defending this guy.

It's "you're" a massive terrorist. Not "your". And it's "defended", not "defeneded" whatever that means.
Also it's not "Quatada". No such person exists. It's "Qatada".

Anyway, where am I defending anyone? Are you getting a bit confused with another thread?
Not sure how you managed to infer that from me paraphrasing the articles. Read/spell carefully.

[RyanT]

(Original post by Stefan1991)
Thoughts?

Double agents are part and parcel of intelligence community life. That the Americans will use anything for propaganda shouldn't surprise anyone. The CIA are doing their job when all these type of bombs are getting collected by their agents rather then by real terrorists who'd use them.

It's not really that interesting tbh Stefan.

[Algorithm69]

(Original post by Stefan1991)
He WAS a double agent, this has already been admitted now. Read the articles.

Triple agent then.

(Original post by Stefan1991)
Well done for attempting to bomb themselves?
That's an odd thing to say.

Except the agent never attempted to bomb anyone. The agent delivered the bomb to the CIA for analysis and intelligence collection.

[Pindar]

(Original post by the bear)
For the record the terrorist's family was not killed in the raid on his sordid lair.
Mr Obama is doing a great job fighting the enemies of freedom

Sorry to be a nitpicker, but yes Osama's young son was murdered when armed soldiers raided their home.

Also his friend and his family - his brother and brother's wife - were murdered in the home invasion. Osama's 12 year old daughter and her mother were also seriously injured and emotionally scarred after watching their father and husband shot in the head in front of them, and his bloody corpse dragged out of their home.

[roh]

CIA in keeping things secret shocker.

Next week we find out the Pope is reported to be Catholic.

[Pindar]

(Original post by RyanT)
Double agents are part and parcel of intelligence community life. That the Americans will use anything for propaganda shouldn't surprise anyone. The CIA are doing their job when all these type of bombs are getting collected by their agents rather then by real terrorists who'd use them.

It's not really that interesting tbh Stefan.

So what is the CIA's "job"? Because it doesn't seem to be that benevolent or specific, they seem to be a above-the-law rogue agency with free reign to do what they want.

I just think it's a bit ironic that you say the CIA's job is to prevent terrorism.

And if it's not that interesting no one is forcing you to comment on the article, I am just dismayed at this dumbing down of society where potential terrorist atrocities and CIA involvement is not interesting enough for this X factor generation.

[Pindar]

(Original post by Algorithm69)
Except the agent never attempted to bomb anyone. The agent delivered the bomb to the CIA for analysis and intelligence collection.

How do you know this?

[Algorithm69]

(Original post by Stefan1991)
How do you know this?

It's right there in the articles you posted...

In an apparent intelligence coup, the agent left Yemen with the device and delivered it to the CIA.

The agent was given the device which he then delivered to the CIA and Saudi officials.

FBI analysts are studying the device.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18000351

[the bear]

(Original post by Stefan1991)
Sorry to be a nitpicker, but yes Osama's young son was murdered when armed soldiers raided their home.

Also his friend and his family - his brother and brother's wife - were murdered in the home invasion. Osama's 12 year old daughter and her mother were also seriously injured and emotionally scarred after watching their father and husband shot in the head in front of them, and his bloody corpse dragged out of their home.

so his family was not killed

[Pindar]

(Original post by the bear)
so his family was not killed

What part of "his son was murdered" do you not understand? Or do you not consider someone's son part of one's family...?

[Pindar]

(Original post by Algorithm69)
It's right there in the articles you posted...

In an apparent intelligence coup, the agent left Yemen with the device and delivered it to the CIA.

The agent was given the device which he then delivered to the CIA and Saudi officials.

FBI analysts are studying the device.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18000351

Yes it says that, but how do you even know it really happened for sure? The only source are the CIA officials themselves... they're just relaying what they've been told to say.

How can you "foil a plot" when you were instrumental in carrying out that plot?
It's like me claiming credit for single-handedly capturing a ruthless serial killer, if I go out and kill a few people and then give myself in.

[Algorithm69]

(Original post by Stefan1991)
Yes it says that, but how do you even know it really happened for sure? The only source are the CIA officials themselves... they're just relaying what they've been told to say.

How can you "foil a plot" when you were instrumental in carrying out that plot?
It's like me claiming credit for single-handedly capturing a ruthless serial killer, if I go out and kill a few people and then give myself in.

I really have no interest in debating a conspiracy theorist, which you are turning out to be. If you don't trust the official sources, fine, but provide your own evidence. This does not include inferences or speculation.

If you seriously cannot comprehend how infiltrating a terrorist organisation, gaining a key position in the execution of a terrorist plot, and then stealing key materials and delivering them to the other side, along with substantial evidence on the terrorist organisation, is not foiling a plot then there's little else I can say to you. The agent was not in charge, the agent did not create the terrorist organisation, the agent did not come up with the plan, the agent did not build the bomb. These things would have happened without him being there. What he did do, is gain a position where he was able to completely destroy the plot. So no, your analogy fails on every level.

[Steevee]

(Original post by Stefan1991)
Yes it says that, but how do you even know it really happened for sure? The only source are the CIA officials themselves... they're just relaying what they've been told to say.

How can you "foil a plot" when you were instrumental in carrying out that plot?
It's like me claiming credit for single-handedly capturing a ruthless serial killer, if I go out and kill a few people and then give myself in.

Shall we make this simple for you.

-Terrorists plan to bomb America
-CIA agent infiltrates the cell, convinces them to use him as a bomber, stops bombing and delivers intel.

Understand? Or are you trolololing?

[Pindar]

(Original post by Algorithm69)
I really have no interest in debating a conspiracy theorist, which you are turning out to be. If you don't trust the official sources, fine, but provide your own evidence. This does not include inferences or speculation.

Wtf?... please point me to this "conspiracy theorising" you are referring to and accusing me of?

Where exactly did I supply this "conspiracy theory"? You are the one who is claiming a CIA double agent infiltrated the most dangerous terrorist group in the world, fooled AL Qaeda into thinking he was going to bomb US planes and then single-handedly sabotaged the plot, stole the bomb and defected to the CIA.

Whereas I'm merely relaying what was said in the articles without immediately taking it as the infallible truth without question, which one sounds more like conspiracy theorising?

(Original post by Algorithm69)
If you seriously cannot comprehend how infiltrating a terrorist organisation, gaining a key position in the execution of a terrorist plot, and then stealing key materials and delivering them to the other side, along with substantial evidence on the terrorist organisation, is not foiling a plot then there's little else I can say to you.

Interesting conspiracy theory you have there, have you any evidence to back up these claims?

(Original post by Algorithm69)
The agent was not in charge, the agent did not create the terrorist organisation, the agent did not come up with the plan, the agent did not build the bomb.

Again, how do you know this? Do you have any solid evidence to back up these claims? Or are you just going off what the CIA who were themselves involved in the plot said...

(Original post by Algorithm69)
These things would have happened without him being there.

Again, how do you know all this? Where are you getting your information from. This is all a load of wild speculation and conspiracy theorising. Please stick to the facts because you are beginning to sound like a nutjob.

(Original post by Algorithm69)
What he did do, is gain a position where he was able to completely destroy the plot. So no, your analogy fails on every level.What he did do, is gain a position where he was able to completely destroy the plot. So no, your analogy fails on every level.

Infiltrating Al-Qaeda must be so easy....

[Pindar]

(Original post by Steevee)
Shall we make this simple for you.

-Terrorists plan to bomb America
-CIA agent infiltrates the cell, convinces them to use him as a bomber, stops bombing and delivers intel.

Another gullible conspiracy theorist.

This would all be a lot less embarrassing if you had anything credible to back up what you were saying. I, myself, like to stick to real world facts.