Is it fair to try and convert people to religion

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  1. pizzle223's Avatar
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    Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    I'm not religious. I did go to a CofE primary school and I understand that many people are religious for their own different reasons.

    But is it fair for religious people to approach me in the street and to knock on my door trying to convert me to religion?

    Only once can I say that I've ever been offended by this and it was in a situation on Oxford Street where a Hare Krishna began talking to me and basically told me he could make my life a lot better than what it is. Personally I'm pretty happy as it is.

    Now if I was to begin approaching religious people and telling them they could be a lot happier if they forgot all about their religion I'm sure there would be outrage.

    So is it fair for people to randomly approach any stranger and try to push religion onto them?

    I'm not complaining and would never treat anyone different due to there religious beliefs.. but thought it could be a good discussion.

    Discuss.
  2. james22's Avatar
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    It's fine for them to do it, so long as they don't get angry when people try to convert others to become athiests.
  3. .eXe's Avatar
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    why is it unfair? they are just exercising their right to free speech. you are welcome to say no and move on.

    Your question is the same as saying: hey is it fair for people to approach me and give me a magazine to read on the subway?

    Of course it's fair...you have all the right to say no and move on...
  4. The_Lonely_Goatherd's Avatar
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    I personally find that kinda evangelisation distasteful :yes:
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    (Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd)
    I personally find that kinda evangelisation distasteful :yes:
    but it works quite well, especially in certain parts of the world. sure, it may seem a bit intrusive especially if they try to forcibly convert people, but when done right, it can be a great way to spread the word.
  6. chickenonsteroids's Avatar
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    It's fine for them to recommend it but if they keep on going at it, it's really bad and annoying. It'll just make people dislike them.
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    No. It's your choice, nobody should try and make you convert.
  8. jardantuan's Avatar
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    I honestly find it quite invasive. If I was interested, I'd approach them and ask for more information, rather than have it thrown at me when I don't want to know.
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    (Original post by zuqqer)
    No. It's your choice, nobody should try and make you convert.
    what you meant to say was, people can try to make you convert but its your choice to say no.
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    (Original post by .eXe)
    but it works quite well, especially in certain parts of the world. sure, it may seem a bit intrusive especially if they try to forcibly convert people, but when done right, it can be a great way to spread the word.
    I'm not saying it's not effective: like you say, it certainly is sometimes. I just wouldn't go about doing something like that myself :nah:
  11. Anna150's Avatar
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    It's fair. It's also fair for you to ask them to be quiet and go bother someone else.
  12. pizzle223's Avatar
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    Yeah I guess it is fair. It was just the way he said it (although I'm sure he didn't intend it to seem as it did) was as though I wasn't happy with my life.

    Either way my post wasn't to say anything bad about religion, just to through up a good ol' discussion.
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    As long as they aren't doing it to children, and as long as its a situation where you can easily say no and move on, then yes it is fair.

    Distasteful methods such as jumping around screaming is not socially acceptable, and so is in my own opinion, a public nuisance and should be outlawed (I think you would notice that if you try jumping about screaming views that aren't religious but on another topic that some find offensive you would be arrested, but for religion it's just fine :rolleyes:). You should be able to walk down a street without someone trying to scare the living s*** into you saying you are a sinner who will physically burn for an eternity.

    More passive, "would you like some information on Christianity/insert 'x' religion?" people are just fine.

    It is also fair for an atheist to preach the opposite in the streets, however it rarely happens (don't think I've ever seen it actually).
  14. desijut's Avatar
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    Live and let live... unless it affects you in some way.
  15. Florrick's Avatar
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    That approach is unfair so I agree with you there.
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    When this happens to me I just par them out and usually they're so shocked/surprised that they don't pursue me any further

    The Jehovah's Witnesses no longer come to our house (but they go to everyone else on our street) because they know that we're not gullible enough to fall for what they're saying

    Once a Muslim came up to me, whilst I was shopping, screaming about the science in the Qur'an. So I quoted him a couple of lines from the GGS and he literally couldn't respond, so I just walked off and carried on my shopping. Problem solved.

    I have also been approached by these Hare Krishna people, they're pretty clueless if you ask me. The guy just kept going about how your life changes if you become Hindu and worship Krishna, he kept saying that you need to do that in order to be successful in business. I asked him whether Krishna is even mildly bothered about the millions of Hindus that live in poverty. He couldn't answer. I then asked him why Oxford university isn't full of Hindus. He couldn't answer. Like I said, a pretty clueless guy. Before that bit he tried to convince me that I was Hindu, but I swiftly put him down on that one. That wasn't even an argument. He seemed to think "Indian" means "Hindu," which clearly isn't the case.

    It's easy to deal with them if you know what you're talking about.

    As to whether it's fair or not; yes, I think it's fair. In fact, I kind of like it when they do that. Because usually they lear something about Sikhism that they didn't know before. Unless you're in a hurry and get some really annoying people that just won't go away; that's pretty annoying.

    (Original post by .eXe)
    but it works quite well, especially in certain parts of the world. sure, it may seem a bit intrusive especially if they try to forcibly convert people, but when done right, it can be a great way to spread the word.
    No, it proves that you're a good salesperson who is good at picking targets. It doesn't say anything about your religion or its authenticity.

    And what do you mean by "certain parts of the world"?
  17. Sternumator's Avatar
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    Its fine as long as they take no for an answer. How can it not be fair? They can't force you to convert, if you want to convert do it, if not don't. From what I have seen religious people are not to pushy, if you say no and keep walking then they give up, much better than those horrible charity workers. People who convert to religion are not happy with their life as it is and to reach out to those people could be what they need to bring about positive changes in their lives.
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    I was walking along the High Street with my brother once, and we were approached by a Mormon. I forget exactly the argument he was 'preaching' (this happened 7 years or so ago), but my brother, who's much more vocal than me, tore him to pieces with basic logic, and the poor Mormon didn't know what to say. My brother then says 'Have you considered Islam?' And we walk on. We were both sniggering to ourselves at that one.

    In response to OP question, I believe the more anyone tries to shove religion down my throat, the less receptive I am to hearing what they have to say.
  19. .eXe's Avatar
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    (Original post by askew116)
    I was walking along the High Street with my brother once, and we were approached by a Mormon. I forget exactly the argument he was 'preaching' (this happened 7 years or so ago), but my brother, who's much more vocal than me, tore him to pieces with basic logic, and the poor Mormon didn't know what to say. My brother then says 'Have you considered Islam?' And we walk on. We were both sniggering to ourselves at that one.

    In response to OP question, I believe the more anyone tries to shove religion down my throat, the less receptive I am to hearing what they have to say.
    Lol haha that's funny.

    On a side note: mormonism is absolute nonsense, comparable to scientilogy.
  20. geetar's Avatar
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    Re: Is it fair to try and convert people to religion
    I'm an atheist, but yes, of course it's fair.
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