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  1. kka25's Avatar
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    (Original post by apolocreed)
    Sorry, the title is very misleading, he isn't actually a millionaire, his family are...?
    This :mad:
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
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    >Killing yourself before spending your millions on call-girls and other fun stuff.

    Lolwut!?
    You wouldn't even need call girls if you have millions
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    Dude

    "A year earlier he had discovered that the girl he thought was his sister and who was battling a heroin addiction was in fact his mother.
    In the months before Drew’s death his grandmother Vanessa had died after a long fight with motor neurone disease.
    At the time Drew died his biological mother was in rehab and he was spending time with his biological father and his aunt."

    Rough life
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    To the people saying that drugs can affect anyone: yes, that is true, but the poorer you are (and thus the more deprived an area in which you live), the more likely you are to do things like this.

    (Original post by SEHughes)
    Remember prohibition?
    No, I was born in 1989. Do you remember it?
    Last edited by geetar; 10-05-2012 at 11:32.
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    (Original post by badcheesecrispy)
    Isnt it a common view on TSR that only 'lower class' people have this happen to them?
    Strawman alert!
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    edit.
    Last edited by Mister Dead; 10-05-2012 at 12:02.
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    (Original post by Powersymphonia)
    It's easier to just cut the supply though. If cigarettes were not made anymore, everyone would have to quit, same with drugs.

    'Drugs', for example weed, aren't legally 'made' anyway like cigarettes, that's sort of what I mean, even if they're illegalised there'll be someone to fill the gap.

    I'll follow your example to show you what I mean. Say cigarettes were made illegal in the UK. Smokers would still be addicted to them, that wouldn't change, and they'd now be desperate for them. If anyone had some spare packs stored in their cupboard the price for them on the black market would probably jump really high, hypothetically say something like £10/cigarette in the end for all the desperate addicts since there're so few to go round. For £10/cigarette, I'm willing to bet you'd get quite a few people who'd try to make homemade cigarettes in their backyard and sell them to other people. Say the government clamped down somehow on that as well, the price would jump even more - say £30/cigarette, and now people might start travelling abroad, buying a ton of cigarettes, and smuggling them back in - for £30/cigarette I'm sure there'd be people who think it's worth it.

    That's sort of what I mean. If you cut down on one source of supply, the people who were addicted still stay addicted and all it does it create really profitable opportunities for some other source of supply to come in and make a load of money of it.
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    Note that most houses in Richmond are worth upwards of a million, so depending on what the exact facts are, the "millionaire" thing might just be a bit of typical Daily Mail hype.
  9. Mister Dead's Avatar
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    (Original post by zara55)
    Note that most houses in Richmond are worth upwards of a million, so depending on what the exact facts are, the "millionaire" thing might just be a bit of typical Daily Mail hype.
    I'TS A STORY IN THE DAILY MAIL!

    it can't be trusted in any way whatsoever. why even anybody here would link to a daily mail article I have no idea. they have a track record of almost compulsively manipulating and lying in the extreme. Who get's their information there ffs?????????
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    (Original post by Mister Dead)
    I'TS A STORY IN THE DAILY MAIL!

    it can't be trusted in any way whatsoever. why even anybody here would link to a daily mail article I have no idea. they have a track record of almost compulsively manipulating and lying in the extreme. Who get's their information there ffs?????????
    Well it's also in the Telegraph but they use the rather more considered phrase "a privately-educated 13-year old boy" rather than the "millionaire" thing. There is more info in their article than in the Mail one. He was clearly a troubled boy from a troubled family. Quite a sad story really.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-overdose.html
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    and that's exactly what it is, a story. That Torygraph article isn't much better. Most of the papers, even some of the broadsheets now, appear to have little more substance to them than those women's magazines that have headlines like 'I gave birth to a ghost' and 'I went fishing and caught...CANCER'
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    (Original post by M4LLY)
    A former best friend of mine has now broken off from our group, now every weekend he goes out clubbing on E. The sad part is that his family is really well off. Just goes to show that it can happen to anyone, anywhere.
    Maybe, but ecstasy is no more harmful than alcohol tbh. (Not that I've tried it, but that's what the studies show.)
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    (Original post by nish81)
    I think you need to toughen up on the demand-side not the supply-side. You toughen up on supply, and the price will just rise until someone else steps in to claim the high profits. Wreck demand and the whole market collapses
    I agree with this, but sadly it's almost impossible to deal with the demand.
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    (Original post by Mister Dead)
    and that's exactly what it is, a story. That Torygraph article isn't much better. Most of the papers, even some of the broadsheets now, appear to have little more substance to them than those women's magazines that have headlines like 'I gave birth to a ghost' and 'I went fishing and caught...CANCER'
    Well, yes, it's a "story" but it is also news - it's unusual for a 13-yr old boy from a privileged background to die in such circumstances. I don't personally think the newspapers are wrong to cover it, just that the DM coverage, is, as usual, rather loaded with ott phrasing.
  15. Mister Dead's Avatar
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    (Original post by jismith1989)
    Maybe, but ecstasy is no more harmful than alcohol tbh. (Not that I've tried it, but that's what the studies show.)
    Actually what studies show is that like twenty thousand (arbitrary number just to demonstrate gulf in stats) times the amount of people die with 'alcohol' as causal factor. Of course we don't know the cumulative effects of doing E for a lifetime yet, so that may change. Although it's interesting to note that almost everyone that does E does it for a short period of time, rather than over the stretch of a lifetime.

    E doesn't even figure as high as prescription drugs your mum probably has in the cabinet.

    Again though, it's all a bit unreliable because in their wisdom the government has decided to leave control of the business in the hands of amateur chemists and criminals, criminalising people for doing it, and in the process skew stats and fail to conduct adequate research.

    good one.

    (Original post by M4LLY)
    A former best friend of mine has now broken off from our group, now every weekend he goes out clubbing on E. The sad part is that his family is really well off. Just goes to show that it can happen to anyone, anywhere.

    What can happen to anyone... go out clubbing and have an awesome time dancing and being completely off your tits and feeling like everything is right and amzing in the world. And having fun meeting people that have also decided to do that and share something, briefly, for a few hours on a Saturday night, that feels deeply in common with people around you.

    And you don't need to feel sorry for them because here's a newsflash: they're probably not wasting a second of their time blatheirng to strangers on an internet forum about how 'sad' it is that it's something that 'hasn't happened to you' and how 'not everyone will be lucky enough' to experience it. No, in likelhood, just like most people that use recreational drugs, they just going to have a great night and then go back to work/school/whatever on Monday just like everyone else.

    No wonder your friend has ditched his group. He's probably found some less patronising people to hang out with.
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    (Original post by SEHughes)
    Remember prohibition?
    Yes I'm sure she remembers it well
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    He didn't die of a heroin overdose according to the acticle, it was alchol and citalopram, although he had traces of heroin in his system.
  18. Mister Dead's Avatar
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    (Original post by Sternumator)
    He didn't die of a heroin overdose according to the acticle, it was alchol and citalopram, although he had traces of heroin in his system.
    yes, which means that

    1. someone may have exposed him to it

    and seperately to that

    2. It probably wasn't even heroin anyway. Probably prescription meds
  19. Carecup's Avatar
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    Legalize, regulate and tax.
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    Re: Privately educated 13 year old millionaire dies of heroin overdose
    (Original post by Aspiringlawstudent)
    You really might want to learn to spell before being critical.
    spelling is fine, grammar on the other hand...

    (Original post by ugk4life)
    how does a family of heroin addicts become millionaires??
    Well it is most likely the grandfathers money, the house was his as well. It doesn't mention anywhere in the article about him being a drug addict, just his children.
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