[stargirl63]

That literally made me burst out crying for that poor child.

[Ice Constricter]

(Original post by whyumadtho)
Wow, I just watched it. She was hitting him/her (going to say him for ease) with a cushion with full force, slapping him hard on the head and legs with both her hand and another object, and she seemed like she was pinching him and trying to pull out his hair as well. Even when his crying was subsiding she continued to hit and push him out of spite it seems.

Thats so ****ed up! That woman, she deserves....she..... I can't even put what I want to say in words. Thats how mad I am! What a disgusting individual!

[OmeletteAuFromage]

Since when are malaysians chinese?
Get a clue you ignorant fool.

[Steevee]

(Original post by Perseveranze)
Are you having a laugh LOL? I read the first page, and the author uses "Ibn Hashim" as a source? Lmao.

Ibn Hashim is considered by all Academia as an extremely weak source, with around 90% of his narrations considered fabricated. He doesn't even provide chains.

The whole first part about the persians and women and so on has been proven completely fabricated without even a chain -

…this isnad (chain of reporters) is not narrated on authority of Mujalid but by Muhammad Ibn Al-Hajjaj and they all (other reporters in the chain) accuse Muhammad Ibn Al-Hajjaj of forging it - Ibn ‘Adiyy, Al-Kamel, Vol. 6, p. 145

The author himself is not an "imam", any imam would have known this basic authentication fact. I'm well aware of the ex-Muslim circle, and hardly anyone has tried to publicise this book, for a good reason I assume (only fake Ali Sina tried to promote it lol).

There's also no Academic review or references of this book. Oh wait, there is one on Amazon (it's not academic though), but...

The method of reciting the Koran is so beautiful and musical in tone that even the most hideously sicko verses can make the listener cry.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-revi...owViewpoints=1

LOL. Well, I guess that's one up compared to the Christians who say "the Qur'an is beautiful because it is the trick of the devil so don't listen to it" lmao.

You're a complete liar, that's the best you could come up with. No wonder you have so much hate, your IQ reflects where you get your information on Islam from.

Thankfully IQ's can change, a person can smarten up. I would suggest you do just that before you go into your grave with major regrets.





You argued "homosexuals can't control their sexual urges, just like a mental man (interesting comparison)", and as soon as you got destroyed with the examples of pedophilia and incest, you've suddenly switched lanes to "but they consent".

Stick to the topic. Incest also "consent", yet that's deemed "morally wrong". You also think it's ok to have sex with animals, what more should I possibly say to something as sick as that?




You can think whatever you like, but your argument is completely weak. This is what you're saying; "people who do something that they have no control over (mental person), should be killed for it".

At least mine is based on objectivity that if you are literally in no control of your actions, you cannot be accountable for it - so killing someone because they did something they had no control over is pure barbarism. Whereas your case of barbarism is subjective based on what you deem right or wrong regardless of the fact that they have full control.



This is pathetic, you're like some closet Christian, who gets refuted even by your "fellow atheists" whenever you try to make apologetic implications on "how peaceful christianity is". I'm guessing your parents are Christian or something, so you have a natural error based bias, but you claim to be an Atheist yourself.

Anyways, only Christians who like "self interpret" the bible believe (at best) that "God decides if homo's go to hell or heaven", otherwise the majority, both today and historically, based on all evidences believe homosexuals are "denied God's kindom".

Corinthians 6:9-10: "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Think you've given more then enough connotations you're a bigot. Actually, more proof of how in denial you are aswell.

I haven't switched tacts None of those people can control their sexual urges, you can't just turn a sexual attraction off. And when a sexual action takes place between two consenting adults you have absoloutly no right to interfere or judge. As with animals, it is an issue of harm, bearing in mind you use animals as labourers, I see no reason to stop beastiality that does not cause harm to an animal. Call that sick if you will, honestly I couldn't care less about your moral outrage, because your 'morals' are abhorrent to me.

Pretty sure I never said anything of the sort, care to provide a quote?

Clearly you don;t have a very sound understanding of Christianity. Almost all denominations of Christianity believe that with proper prayer and pennance you may enter Heaven no matter your sin. Equally, the more liberal and less crazy branches, such as the Anglicans and Protestants tend to believe that Homosexuality isn't a grave sin, and follow Jesus's teachings of compassion and love, rather than hate filled bile. You see, Christians take the Bible with a pinch of salt and follow what they feel to be the general message of the New Testament for the most part. Whereas you Muslims instead twist and turn the Quran and Hadith to suit your purposes, because you make this claim that it's perfect, so you have rather backed yourself into a hole. That's why I can tolerate Anglicans and the like, and just cannot abide the majority of Muslim beliefs.

If you say so my dear, think it's just you and 2 or 3 other Muslim users of this site that are in that boat of belief though.

[Id and Ego seek]

[dhanp79]

Should be banned from ever coming into close prolonged contact with a child ever again imo.

[Add!ction]

I hope someone stabs her in the face.

[herostraticflame]

clearly this is wrong and abusive in everyway. But lets look at what it really is here, and that could be many things. It may be easier to look at what it isn't, and that is a video of a mother beating her child.

She is slapping it with a pillow, nipping its limbs and once/twice open hand slapped its face. Hardly a combination of assults that consitute a beating. Clearly the child is uncomfortable, hence the crying, it may not be in great pain however. As most of us will know children cry because they want something and cannot speak. Not necessarily because they are in great pain.

This is a young mother, probably angry over the child for whatever reasons (young pregnency, cost etc) and obviously not fit to be a mother. But I think people are over reacting, nobody here has been in her position, so wishing her dead for throwing a pillow at her child is a tad extreme, particularly as she has already been jailed and the child most likely put into care.

[OddThings]

I do agree what the woman has done was awful but even after watching mere seconds of it,it made me think what was driving the women to do that to presumably her own child? Are there underlying mental issues,was she resenting the child for some reason,young pregnancy?(not reasons whatsoever to justify such actions but they still made me think) Then I thought about the person filming this,they clearly condoned what happened,enough to put it on YouTube. Why did they put it on there anyway? For a certain someone to see? For entertainment(Very very disgusting thought but the world is full of bizarre people)?

[Falecorr]

(Original post by herostraticflame)
This is a young mother, probably angry over the child for whatever reasons (young pregnency, cost etc) and obviously not fit to be a mother. But I think people are over reacting, nobody here has been in her position, so wishing her dead for throwing a pillow at her child is a tad extreme, particularly as she has already been jailed and the child most likely put into care.

She did not throw a pillow at the child.
She hit the child repeatedly, full force, about the head an neck with a pillow. the child is 7-8 months old, and even a thin 100 pound woman could cause brain/spinal damage to a child that young. She was also ripping out hairs, slapping it in the face (full force, again) kicked it a few times, and slapping it on the back and legs with a cell phone. this went on for almost 10 minutes.

I'd end her if I could.
I do not want her alive simply for the fact that if people who think that it's okay to beat an innocent child for any reason got off as easily as she did, it would be no deterrent for worst of them. Maybe it was a rape baby. Maybe she was a victim of circumstance. Regardless, it takes a certain kind of depraved to take out anger like she did on an innocent, harmless child, and I don't want that walking around on this world. Not where everyone I love lives, and not spreading her behavior and ideals- if she has any. It only takes one weed to ruin a garden.

Also, from her appearance, my guess is She's Thai or Malaysian. She doesn't even look Chinese.

[Safiya122]

I cried about this at night because I couldn't get the disturbing video out of my head.

[AishaTara]

anyone who could do this to their own child must be wrong in the head, and needs help! No one in a normal state of mind would do that to a child, especially their own child.

[Safiya122]

I'd just like to mention that this abuse took place last May. She's been served to be in jail for 18 months, and she's almost completed a year. The child is now, or at the time of the arrest was transferred to a foster home. By looking at such a horrific thing, I want to join a charity to prevent this.

And just for those wondering, she was Malaysian.

[Safiya122]

(Original post by herostraticflame)
clearly this is wrong and abusive in everyway. But lets look at what it really is here, and that could be many things. It may be easier to look at what it isn't, and that is a video of a mother beating her child.

She is slapping it with a pillow, nipping its limbs and once/twice open hand slapped its face. Hardly a combination of assults that consitute a beating. Clearly the child is uncomfortable, hence the crying, it may not be in great pain however. As most of us will know children cry because they want something and cannot speak. Not necessarily because they are in great pain.

This is a young mother, probably angry over the child for whatever reasons (young pregnency, cost etc) and obviously not fit to be a mother. But I think people are over reacting, nobody here has been in her position, so wishing her dead for throwing a pillow at her child is a tad extreme, particularly as she has already been jailed and the child most likely put into care.

Wait, so you don't believe the child was crying because it was being kicked and hit over the head with a pillow and slapped, not to mention his nose being twisted? I don't know about you, but if that was happening to me, even at the age I am now, I'd still cry and if a 16 would cry over that torment then I'm pretty sure an 8 month old would too. Also, when he actually stopped making noise because this throat had got so dry, she slapped him again and he started crying, personally that's enough for me to believe he was crying because he was in pain.

But how can a mother possibly take her anger out on a child? Ok say she was angry because of becoming pregnant young or because she was unable to afford things, Who told her to get pregnant? she should've used protection if she wasn't ready to become a mother. If it was because of the cost, might as well have sold the camera that the other woman was holding.

I understand what you mean, however I don't agree these were the reasons. The child shouldn't have suffered because she felt that having a child caused her problems. She should've used protection in the first place. I'm sorry but I refuse to accept that she had a reason like this to do so. If it was the case that she got pregnant young, she should've gave the child up for adoption. There's other possibilities as to what she could've done, and personally I think she did it out of entertainment. I think she wanted to hear her child screaming, I feel she enjoyed the child's torment and quite francially she doesn't deserve to live. People like that are simply twisted.

[IlexBlue]

I was actually hitting my screen because I just wanted to kick her ass. Sick, sick woman. That poor baby. He or she was so helpless, and she was just sat there, hurting them over and over... Christ, I'm angry.

I swear to God, if I ever came across someone doing that to an innocent kid in real life, I'd end up in jail for what I'd do to them. It just goes beyond belief.

[HopefulFutureMedic]

i watched it for 2 seconds literally and turned it off, i feel sick.
Stupid ***** doesnt even deserve such a beautiful child.

[fosterwho]

wow everyone is this thread is so mad and raging

[.eXe]

(Original post by fosterwho)
wow everyone is this thread is so mad and raging

Look at the thread title...what did you expect?

[Miracle Day]

(Original post by Safiya122)
I'd just like to mention that this abuse took place last May. She's been served to be in jail for 18 months, and she's almost completed a year. The child is now, or at the time of the arrest was transferred to a foster home. By looking at such a horrific thing, I want to join a charity to prevent this.

And just for those wondering, she was Malaysian.

I hope the child has a happy ending with those Foster parents

[Safiya122]

(Original post by Miracle Day)
I hope the child has a happy ending with those Foster parents

Should be. The child is getting monthly checks from social services who aren't in any contact with the biological family just to make sure he/she is ok. It's in Novemeber 2012 when the court will decide whether the mother can have her child back, which hopefully she won't.