Can God read computer data?
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Can God read computer data?Hypothetically, if God wanted to access the internet, could he do it without a computer? And if so, how?
I mean, I know he is all knowing... but... well... can he even access the data available on the net? After all, it is a, albeit massive, closed system which can only really be accessed and interpreted by computational devices.
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Hahaha!(Original post by maturestudy)
Can god invent an encryption scheme he cannot crack?
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Re: Can God read computer data?The traditional definitions of God are mutual/self contradictory. Here are some examples:(Original post by see-are)
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god (if He exists) would DEFINITELY be able to read computer data, according to traditional definitions of God.
1) God as all powerful can kill himself, therefore he is not certainly transendant
2) God all knowing, knows his own certain future therefore has no free will and is not omnipotant.
3) God as an omnipotent being can create something he cannot interact with, therefore cannot be omnipotent (omnipotance self contradicts)
4) God is spacless, so cannot occupy space, so is not omnipotent
5) God is timeless, so can never do anything, so is not omnipotent
6) God as a perfect being, created inperfect objects so being everywhere and in everything he is not perfect (mutual contradiction). -
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Re: Can God read computer data?Problem with these arguments: They are all limited to human understanding based on our universe that is said to be created by God (in a few religions). God, in my opinion, is a concept we cannot possibly comprehend. Our limited capacities are not capable of understanding such things. For example, just try and think of the idea of no beginning and no end... infinity... because that's an issue that the believers and non-believers have to both contend with. I'm pretty certain your brain will begin to hurt if you think about it too much.(Original post by QuantumOverlord)
The traditional definitions of God are mutual/self contradictory. Here are some examples:
1) God as all powerful can kill himself, therefore he is not certainly transendant
2) God all knowing, knows his own certain future therefore has no free will and is not omnipotant.
3) God as an omnipotent being can create something he cannot interact with, therefore cannot be omnipotent (omnipotance self contradicts)
4) God is spacless, so cannot occupy space, so is not omnipotent
5) God is timeless, so can never do anything, so is not omnipotent
6) God as a perfect being, created inperfect objects so being everywhere and in everything he is not perfect (mutual contradiction).
and to answer the OP: Depends on your beliefs obviously
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Re: Can God read computer data?But what is the difference between something we cannot comprehend, and say, nothing at all?(Original post by Qaz25)
Problem with these arguments: They are all limited to human understanding based on our universe that is said to be created by God (in a few religions). God, in my opinion, is a concept we cannot possibly comprehend. Our limited capacities are not capable of understanding such things. For example, just try and think of the idea of no beginning and no end... infinity... because that's an issue that the believers and non-believers have to both contend with. I'm pretty certain your brain will begin to hurt if you think about it too much.
and to answer the OP: Depends on your beliefs obviously
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Re: Can God read computer data?If its so incomprehensible then why do people all over the world claim to comphend god as an omnipotent, all knowing, transcendental being which is obviously contradictory as I have said, and how would we even know that such an incomprehensible being exists.(Original post by Qaz25)
Problem with these arguments: They are all limited to human understanding based on our universe that is said to be created by God (in a few religions). God, in my opinion, is a concept we cannot possibly comprehend. Our limited capacities are not capable of understanding such things. For example, just try and think of the idea of no beginning and no end... infinity... because that's an issue that the believers and non-believers have to both contend with. I'm pretty certain your brain will begin to hurt if you think about it too much.
and to answer the OP: Depends on your beliefs obviously
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Re: Can God read computer data?Exactly, an incomprensible being providing no evidence for its existence is simply an assumption.(Original post by swiftylol)
But what is the difference between something we cannot comprehend, and say, nothing at all? -
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Re: Can God read computer data?God, in islam, is free from all limitations and "has power to do anything" [Koran](Original post by mikeyd85)
Hypothetically, if God wanted to access the internet, could he do it without a computer? And if so, how?
I mean, I know he is all knowing... but... well... can he even access the data available on the net? After all, it is a, albeit massive, closed system which can only really be accessed and interpreted by computational devices.
What say you TSR?
He has created the programming languages as well as the computer, the internet, as He is the Ultimate Creator, and the idea creator doesn't have the knowledge about His creation is itself illogical So, yes. -
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Re: Can God read computer data?Depends if he has Flash, etc, maybe the IT is out of date in Heaven. He's probably got Blackberry though, so he can BBN the angels, as he wouldn't want Satan listening in.(Original post by mikeyd85)
Hypothetically, if God wanted to access the internet, could he do it without a computer? And if so, how?
I mean, I know he is all knowing... but... well... can he even access the data available on the net? After all, it is a, albeit massive, closed system which can only really be accessed and interpreted by computational devices.
What say you TSR?
