The Gothic
English language and literature discussion, revision, exam and homework help.
| Announcements | Posted on | |
|---|---|---|
| Important: please read these guidelines before posting about exams on The Student Room | 28-04-2013 | |
-
Re: The Gothic
This is pushing it slightly, but if anyone could send me notes or essays on either The Pardoner's Tale, The Bloody Chamber or Macbeth, I would possibly appreciate it more than anything. I can send you some stuff on The Tiger's Bride and the 'oold man' in The Pardoner's Tale if you'd like, however, that's the extent of my legible notes.
Edit: I've just registered here, and in a combination of little to no time to find out, as well as a progressive feeling of disconcertion over the exam tomorrow, I'm not sure if you can actually send attachments through messages. My email is [Removed - please use PMs or post here], if anyone wants to send me anything.Last edited by cal_cal; 19-06-2012 at 20:27. -
Re: The GothicSent you mine. X(Original post by cal_cal)
This is pushing it slightly, but if anyone could send me notes or essays on either The Pardoner's Tale, The Bloody Chamber or Macbeth, I would possibly appreciate it more than anything. I can send you some stuff on The Tiger's Bride and the 'oold man' in The Pardoner's Tale if you'd like, however, that's the extent of my legible notes. -
Re: The GothicThey're not in order, just as they came off my head. Hope this helps. X(Original post by Stephclark)
Does anyone have any key quotes from Wuthering Heights, The Bloody Chamber, Frankenstein or Macbeth?
Really struggling to remember ANY so want to learn a few that are relevant to multiple points.
WUTHERING HEIGHTS
"He [Hindley] has been blaming our father (how dared he?) for treating H. [Heathcliff] too liberally; and swears he will reduce him to his right place." Hindley started the whole revenge cycle by mistreating HC in the first place. His envy of Mr. Earnshaw's love for the orphan sets off a chain reaction of abuse and mistreatment. Links in with the 'violence breeds violence' idea.
"I'm trying to settle how I shall pay Hindley back. I don't care how long I wait, if I can only do it at last. I hope he will not die before I do!" Even early on, HC's desire for revenge competes with his love for Catherine. Revenge is one of the emotions that drives HC and gives him a reason to live. The fact that Hindley dies before HC allows him to inherit WH.
"It expressed, plainer than words could do, the intensest anguish at having made himself the instrument of thwarting his own revenge." Rescuing Hareton from death, HC recognises that his instincts prevented the perfect punishment for Hindley - the death of his heir. Because he rescuses Hareton, HC has to work a lot harder to get back at Hindley.
"The tyrant grinds down his slaves and they don't turn against him; they crush those beneath them." Though Catherine perhaps deserves punishment for turning against him, HC would do no such thing. What's notable here is that HC recognises a pecking order: people pick on those beneath them.
"Oh, damnation! I will have it back; and I'll have his gold too; and then his blood; and hell shall have his soul! It will be ten times blacker with that guest than ever it was before!" Hindley loses everything to Heathcliff but must partly blame his own weaknesses and indulgence. He aspires to rob HC of everything and, like a devil figure, even wants his soul.
"My ghostly Catherine."
HC has an air of mystery as he is an outsider: a "gypsy brat".
"The intense horror of the nightmare."
WH is where children thrive "rude as savages".
"It would degrade me to marry HC."
"I am HC, he is always, always in my mind...he is more myself than I am."
"My love for Linton is like the foliage in the woods: time will change it."
"A perfect misanthropist's heaven!"
"A half-civilised feorcity lurked yet in the depressed brows and eyes full of black fire."
"Imp of Satan"
"Diabolical man"
"That is not my HC. I shall love mine yet; and take him with me: he's in my soul."
---
THE BLOODY CHAMBER
Lady of the House of Love
"Depredations of rot and fungus everywhere"
"The ruinous interior"
"Next day, his regiment embarked for France"
"The crone rapped with her knuckles"
(The bird) "She likes to hear how it cannot escape"
"Her obese mouth...a whore's mouth"
Snow Child
"He thrust his virile member into the dead girl" - come on, you MUST remember this one!
"They come to a hole in the snow; this hole is filled with blood"
TBC
"My little nun has found the prayer books, has she?" shocks the reader, a gothic attribute, also explores the sexualisation of women by men. Innocence of women, and lust/animalistic desires of men.
"All the better to see you with." Intertextuality, animal instincts - the predatory nature of men and gender roles (for women to be subordinate to men).
"Funeral lilies"
A motif for death and the relationship between the Marquis and nameless female protagonist. Also foreshadows the events of the short story, a gothic technique.
"That face lay underneath this mask." an example of the unexplained/hidden (thus unheimlich) motives and dark desires - gothic. Mask similar to "leonine" qualities of Marquis. Links to idea that you can never be truly happy until honest with yourself and others in your relationships.
"It must have been my innocence that captivated him." objectification of women, gives the reader a sense of unease. Slabs = cold, inhuman, like the Marquis. Cuts = a piece of meat. The Marquis treats his wives as fine cuts of meat ("a connoisseur inspecting horseflesh").
Courtship of Mr. Lyon
"Outside her kitchen window...the snow possessed a light of its own".
"Atmosphere of a suspension of reality"
"She saw, with indescribable shock, he went on all fours." She is shocked to see him move, animal-like, on all fours. Almost as if she has not even realised his true nature.
Tiger's Bride
"My father lost me to the Beast at cards"
"Ripped petal by petal apart"
"i prick my finger so he gets his rose all smeared with blood"
"I have lost my pearl, my pearl beyond price"
Erl-King
"He says the Devil spits on them at Michaelmas." Twisted religious themes; despite his monstrosity, the EK possesses religious superstition regardless.
"...eyes are quite green...too much looking at the wood...there are some eyes can eat you."
The Werewolf
"...then they dig up fresh corpses, and eat them. Anyone will tell you that." The people see their fears as facts, sets up for the village people killing the old woman.
"They strip the crone, search her for marks...they soon find it. They stone her."
Highlights the fear of old age in society. It is easier to kill the old than help them.
"Here, take your father's hunting knife; you know how to use it."
"But it was no longer a wolf's paw. It was a hand...she knew it for her grandmother's hand."
People grow old, but it is like they are transformed. Shows the fear of old age.
"They knew the wart on the hand at once for a witch's nipple...and pelted her with stones until she fell down dead." The child should be looking after the grandmother, but this fear of old age makes society crucify her. Society does not care for the old.
"Now the child lived in her grandmother's house; she prospered."
She is young, so she will prosper, but eventually she will become old, and likewise be crucified by society (just like the grandmother). Carter wants this cycle to stop.
Company of Wolves
"One beast and only one howls in the woods at night"
Reference to men who prey on young girls?
"And then no wolf at all lay in front of the hunter but the bloody trunk of a man."
Transformation, superstition makes something fearful which is just human.
"Until she jumps up in bed and shrieks to hear a howling, coming on the winds from the forest."
Men don't want commitment, they want to be predators.
"She is an unbroken egg; she is a sealed vessel."
"...she knew she should never leave the path on the way through the wood or else she would be lost instantly."
Virginity and innocence.
"The girl burst out laughing; she knew she was nobody's meat."
A reverse of the power roles. The girl is using her sexuality to her advantage. Carter may be suggesting that this is the only way women can feel empowered.
"Sweet and sound she sleeps in granny's, between the paws of the tender wolf."
The girl is no longer the victim, but has the power in the relationship. Although he is still a wolf she has tamed him.
Wolf-Alice
"The moon had been shining into the kitchen when she woke to feel the trickle between her thighs."
Moon symbolises fertility: she doesn't understand her own body. Liminal character, doesn't belong in the wolf/human world.
"Perennial stranger" makes us realise how lonely and outcast she is.
'Haunts the graveyard" Gothic setting, characterising him, power/presence - links to the supernatural, distances us from reality/normality. -
Re: The GothicThankyou so so much! You're a star!!(Original post by tsveta)
They're not in order, just as they came off my head. Hope this helps. X
xx
-
Re: The Gothic
Just wondering, how do you get a level 5? At the moment I am getting level 4's but I am hoping to push myself and achieve a level higher.
I'm doing Frankenstein, Bloody Chamber and Macbeth.
I know its pretty late now but what I found useful for revision was to record myself reading the quotes, saves me having to read them out all the time! -
Re: The Gothic.....all of them.....(Original post by latasauce)
What AOs do we need to hit for each question? -
Re: The GothicI thought so, just checked the specification to confirm. I know the weighting is different in unit 1, hence me asking.(Original post by tsveta)
.....all of them..... -
Re: The Gothic
How did everyone think that went? I did the Dracula question for Section A which I didn't do too well on I don't think. I think I talked too much about why they were killed rather than death being desirable!
However I think I nailed Section B. I did the question on gothic villains making evil seem attractive. I argued that their initial achievement are desirable (Macbeth + Lady Macbeth becoming king, Lucy getting lots of men and the Marquis dominating woman etc etc) however the consequences are always unattractive (such as guilt, death and humiliation) therefore meaning a gothic villain's evil is unattractive.
Anyway hope everyone else did okay! -
Re: The Gothic
Was really pleased! I did Wuthering Heights for Section A which I personally thought was a gift of a question! For Section B I did the top one on aspirations going beyond limitations and how the genre acts as a warning! Hopefully will get 90 or above to get me the A overall for English!
-
Re: The GothicI did the same questions. Second one I said how they celebrate... I know stupid phrasing but it kinda worked... as well as warn of the dangers because the characters always gain something they would not already have through their aspirations.(Original post by antero)
Was really pleased! I did Wuthering Heights for Section A which I personally thought was a gift of a question! For Section B I did the top one on aspirations going beyond limitations and how the genre acts as a warning! Hopefully will get 90 or above to get me the A overall for English! -
Re: The Gothic
I enjoyed the paper, filled in the booklet and my handwriting's tiny... My wrist was aching afterwards!
I chose the Macbeth question for section A and the first question for Section B. I talked about various dangers of exceeding our aspirational limits such as Macbeth's and Lady Macbeth's loss of sanity etc and other stuff. I think I enjoyed Section A more, tbh. xD

xx