[SEHughes]

America's top military officer has condemned a course taught about Islam at one of America's top military schools as "totally objectionable".

It is not surprising. The story, first broken by Wired, is fairly astonishing, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, must be furious.

The course taught officers there was no such thing as moderate Islam and that they should consider the religion their enemy.

It advocated "total war" against all the world's Muslims, including possible nuclear attacks on the holy cities of Mecca and Medina and the wiping out civilian populations.

The Pentagon has confirmed the course material found on their website is authentic.

Pretty grim.

EDIT: Negs for this? Really?

[Ayesha1234]

The only thing I can think of to say is just..wow? What is the world coming to

[GeorgetheAug]

Stupid.

[najinaji]

The course taught officers there was no such thing as moderate Islam

He has a point. Islam is fundamentalist by nature. That being said, advocating wiping out Muslims in general is incredibly abhorrent.

[GeorgetheAug]

(Original post by najinaji)
He has a point. Islam is fundamentalist by nature.

Most religions can be considered fundamentalist if you look at them in the right places.

The most fundamentalist religion is, of course, America.

[rab22]

so according to this what is the problem...islam or the muslims ??? or the oil found over there ???

[najinaji]

(Original post by GeorgetheAug)
Most religions can be considered fundamentalist if you look at them in the right places.

The most fundamentalist religion is, of course, America.

The fact that there is a revised version of the Bible (New Testament) wipes out any inherent fundamentalism there... I don't know very much about other religions.

[Negaduck]

The attitude towards Islam from my mainly Protestant Christian school is terrible where I live. (Northern Ireland)

People actually think Islam is a terrorist organisation. It's not just Americans that are crazy. Trust me.

[CUFCDan]

(Original post by najinaji)
He has a point. Islam is fundamentalist by nature. That being said, advocating wiping out Muslims in general is incredibly abhorrent.

I just laughed. So hard.

All religions are fundamentalist if you look at their very base.

Of course there are moderate muslims. Those who don't adhere to the Quaranic teachings as closely. Obviously.

There are also other sources of Islam, like Muhammed.

There are certain parts of the Quran that are deeply disturbing, some that are very nice. Just like every religion or political creed.

[najinaji]

(Original post by CUFCDan)
I just laughed. So hard.

All religions are fundamentalist if you look at their very base.

Of course there are moderate muslims. Those who don't adhere to the Quaranic teachings as closely. Obviously.

There are also other sources of Islam, like Muhammed.

There are certain parts of the Quran that are deeply disturbing, some that are very nice. Just like every religion or political creed.

See this:

(Original post by najinaji)
The fact that there is a revised version of the Bible (New Testament) wipes out any inherent fundamentalism there... I don't know very much about other religions.

The Qu'ran is meant to be the perfect holy book and every Muslim should basically follow it to the letter, which is why there haven't been any updated versions. The fact that a few people pick and choose what to believe doesn't mean that a religion isn't fundamentalist.

The Book of Mormon claims that darker-skinned people are inherently more sinful than those with lighter skin. Not all Mormons might believe that. However, it doesn't mean that that belief isn't there in Mormonism. You could argue that people who pick and choose are not actually true Mormons.

Also: Muhammad is meant to have written the Qu'ran...

[eggnchips]

Maybe the US will realise now it cant win, the traditional way to beat an enemy like this is to break them totally, just like with the nazi's that isnt morally acceptable now. The only way they can achieve something remotely like peace is to leave the middle east.

[CUFCDan]

(Original post by najinaji)
See this:

The Qu'ran is meant to be the perfect holy book and every Muslim should basically follow it to the letter, which is why there haven't been any updated versions. The fact that a few people pick and choose what to believe doesn't mean that a religion isn't fundamentalist.

The Book of Mormon claims that darker-skinned people are inherently more sinful than those with lighter skin. Not all Mormons might believe that. However, it doesn't mean that that belief isn't there in Mormonism. You could argue that people who pick and choose are not actually true Mormons.

Also: Muhammad is meant to have written the Qu'ran...

I haven't read the New Testament. But I'm sure there are some quite distasteful things in there too.

Muhammed isn't supposed to have written the Quran. The Quran is supposed to be the word of God spoken through Muhammed. Muhammed's teachings are called Hadiths and are distinct from the Quran.

[TheHansa]

This explains why so many atrocities have been commited in the middle east by occupying forces. After world war two there was supposed to be a shift from hatred of the enemy to no feeling at all to prevent civilians being killed and to maintain discipline in the ranks.

(Original post by Negaduck)
The attitude towards Islam from my mainly Protestant Christian school is terrible where I live. (Northern Ireland)

People actually think Islam is a terrorist organisation. It's not just Americans that are crazy. Trust me.

the biggest Christian sect in America are Catholics

[A level Az]

(Original post by najinaji)
Also: Muhammad is meant to have written the Qu'ran...

No, please stop typing, you really are clueless.

[Student296]

"What does seem rather surprising is that all those commanders, captains and colonels must have sat through the course and not felt the need to tell someone that something rather weird was going on."

This is solid proof that America is in fact at war with Islam

[najinaji]

(Original post by CUFCDan)
I haven't read the New Testament. But I'm sure there are some quite distasteful things in there too.

Muhammed isn't supposed to have written the Quran. The Quran is supposed to be the word of God spoken through Muhammed. Muhammed's teachings are called Hadiths and are distinct from the Quran.

What do distasteful things have to do with fundamentalism...?

Also, if Muhammad didn't write the Quran, then who did?

(Original post by A level Az)
No, please stop typing, you really are clueless.

EDIT: I'll put this question to you as well.

[marcusfox]

(Original post by SEHughes)
Pretty grim.

This is nothing new.

I can guarantee you they have war plans for every eventuality.

Even to take out the UK should they deem it necessary.

[Organ]

(Original post by Negaduck)
The attitude towards Islam from my mainly Protestant Christian school is terrible where I live. (Northern Ireland)

People actually think Islam is a terrorist organisation. It's not just Americans that are crazy. Trust me.

Don't worry, everybody knows that Ulster Protestants are mental.

[CUFCDan]

(Original post by najinaji)
What do distasteful things have to do with fundamentalism...?

Also, if Muhammad didn't write the Quran, then who did?

EDIT: I'll put this question to you as well.

What does a 'new book' have to do with not being fundamentalist? You can still be a fundamentalist to the new testament. Just because it is a new book doesn't mean you can't be a fundamentalist.

I've just said; the point is that 'God' wrote the Quran. The teachings of Muhammed are Hadiths which are separate from the Quran. Islam is built from a variety of sources, it is not from one book like you imagine it is.

[Negaduck]

(Original post by Organ)
Don't worry, everybody knows that Ulster Protestants are mental.

Haha, I want to argue with you but I can't. I know many of them and most are secterian/ racist/ hoomophobic... you name it!

Hopefully only a few more months before I can move to Brighton!