[Tushar9]

Does any one here is in search for liberation or self realization or nirvana. All being one and the same. I am being completed confused of my life. There is one part of my mind which is highly materialistic. All that it want is Finance. High motivated in finance sector, for financial courses/knowledge and a bright future prospectus. But the real me is looking for something else. I want to go more deep. The reason for our existence and the way in which we can become free from illusion and this life full of glamour, fame, sex, anger, jealously, anti-religiosity, terrorsim, racism, poverty, and so much more. AT LAST WE ARE GOING TO DIE, HOW MUCH MONEY WE EARN, HOW MUCH FAME WE GAIN. BUT WE DONT KNOW OUR EXISTENCE AFTER THAT. Thats all my friends. I am searching and will be searching till the end. And when I know I will tell you all the absolute truth.

[Martyn*]

illusion and this life full of glamour, fame, sex, anger, jealously, anti-religiosity, terrorsim, racism, poverty

The above is the reality. The illusion is below:

Nirvana, enlightenment, self-realisation, Moksha, ego, Higher-self, etc, etc.

[Tushar9]

(Original post by Martyn*)
illusion and this life full of glamour, fame, sex, anger, jealously, anti-religiosity, terrorsim, racism, poverty

The above is the reality. The illusion is below:

Nirvana, enlightenment, self-realisation, Moksha, ego, Higher-self, etc, etc.

LOL I don't think so ..... yeah may be for your brother. After getting to know so much things, meditation and all you would probably know what I am talking about.

[Martyn*]

(Original post by Tushar9)
LOL I don't think so ..... yeah may be for your brother. After getting to know so much things, meditation and all you would probably know what I am talking about.

There is no Nirvana. There is no Moksha. There is no higher plane. There is nothing beyond the human experience, and all human experience occurs within consciousness. Whatever we experience, we experience though the medium of consciousness. But religions like Buddhism, for example, have used clever words to describe these experiences. They talk about a higher plane of consciousness. It doesn't exist. And they invent all kinds of concepts, one of them being Karma. Oh what fun they had inventing these illusions!

[Tushar9]

(Original post by Martyn*)
There is no Nirvana. There is no Moksha. There is no higher plane. There is nothing beyond the human experience, and all human experience occurs within consciousness. Whatever we experience, we experience though the medium of consciousness. But religions like Buddhism, for example, have used clever words to describe these experiences. They talk about a higher plane of consciousness. It doesn't exist. And they invent all kinds of concepts, one of them being Karma. Oh what fun they had inventing these illusions!

Please read my msg in your profile bro. And you have acquired knowledge of so many things glad for that. just 1 more book to read Living with the himalayan Masters by Swami rama.

[Martyn*]

(Original post by Tushar9)
Please read my msg in your profile bro. And you have acquired knowledge of so many things glad for that. just 1 more book to read Living with the himalayan Masters by Swami rama.

Thanks for the message. It appears to me that what you are experiencing is the body's own response to meditation. It is an aberation. The nervous system is perfectly delicate. It can smash to pieces. This is why people who meditate for long periods always go completely insane, and people who do the walking meditation get schizophrenia-like symptoms. In meditation you will no doubt experience inner lights, sounds, even that thing called 'the blue pearl'. I've experienced all this myself. All this does not exist outside the human experience of sensation and pleasure.

[Tushar9]

(Original post by Martyn*)
Thanks for the message. It appears to me that what you are experiencing is the body's own response to meditation. It is an aberation. The nervous system is perfectly delicate. It can smash to pieces. This is why people who meditate for long periods always go completely insane, and people who do the walking meditation get schizophrenia-like symptoms. In meditation you will no doubt experience inner lights, sounds, even that thing called 'the blue pearl'. I've experienced all this myself. All this does not exist outside the human experience of sensation and pleasure.

Do you believe in life after death?

[Martyn*]

(Original post by Tushar9)
Do you believe in life after death?

Yes. I can prove it with science. We die, we compose, and then life begins again.

[Perseveranze]

The concept of the imperceptible is a decisive factor in distinguishing man from animal. Materialist thinking, ancient as well as modern, has tended to drag man back to an irrational existence, with no room for the spiritual, where everything is determined by sensory means alone. What is peddled as 'progressive thought' is no more than dismal regression - Sayyid Qutb, Fi Dhalal al Qur'an, vol. 1, p 35

Learn about Islam, you'll get the answers.

[Martyn*]

Spiritual answers are nothing more than will o' the wisp and a massive pretense. The material world with its science is much more tangible than the 'spiritual world' with angels and paradises. When religion maintains that it is good to be chaste or to renounce the world, what they really mean is that they want you to be chaste and renounce the world so that they can have the benefit of feeling that they know something you don't. All religions take on the mantle of this pretense and place it well above the material and the scientific.

[Tushar9]

(Original post by Perseveranze)

The concept of the imperceptible is a decisive factor in distinguishing man from animal. Materialist thinking, ancient as well as modern, has tended to drag man back to an irrational existence, with no room for the spiritual, where everything is determined by sensory means alone. What is peddled as 'progressive thought' is no more than dismal regression - Sayyid Qutb, Fi Dhalal al Qur'an, vol. 1, p 35

Learn about Islam, you'll get the answers.

Well no offence for your religion but Hinduism is enough for me....