[pinkfreekyfrog]

I know supposedly we are a liberal country, but can you name any left-wing policies the Torries have propounded? To me they mostly seem to center around their 'Pillars of Society'. Plus it is not so clear who's policy is who's when the are in a coalition.

Thank you

I KNOW LIBERAL DOES NOT EQUAL LEFT-WING!

[Steevee]

Being liberal is not the same as being left wing. Refer to the political compass, I know it's confusing

Generally speaking 'Left-Wing' policies tend to be interpreted as economic policies, whereas 'Right-Wing' policies are radical social policies. This, I think, arises because all parties are economically a ways to the right, and socially aways toward Libertarian, although obviously they are more centre than extreme.

So, I think there are plenty of liberal Tory policies, though no radical progressive legislation, which I don't see as a problem.

[pinkfreekyfrog]

(Original post by Steevee)
Being liberal is not the same as being left wing. Refer to the political compass, I know it's confusing

Generally speaking 'Left-Wing' policies tend to be interpreted as economic policies, whereas 'Right-Wing' policies are radical social policies. This, I think, arises because all parties are economically a ways to the right, and socially aways toward Libertarian, although obviously they are more centre than extreme.

So, I think there are plenty of liberal Tory policies, though no radical progressive legislation, which I don't see as a problem.

I know being Liberal is not the same as being left-wing, but we are a Liberal country and therefore that would surely mean there are more Left-wing policies, as some of them are more in tune with Liberal thinking than right-wing policies.

Thank you so would you say the Torries economic stratergy now is right-wing?

[ukip72]

Oppose grammar schools
0.7% of GDP on foreign aid
Happy to obey Brussels
Gay marriage.

The Tories are centre left. Any Conservatives who think otherwise are kidding themselves. UKIP is the real conservative party.

[Pyramidologist]

David Cameron is linked to the extreme left (communist) UAF (''Unite Against Fascism'') thug organisation, his signature is on their website, listed as a founding signatory.

The UAF are a thug communist group who attack children and women, this is what David Cameron supports.

Video: UAF - Celebrating Violence Against Women in Tower Hamlets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature&v=OJcG2C22okE

This is what Cameron has signed up for, and financially backs.

[Steevee]

(Original post by pinkfreekyfrog)
I know being Liberal is not the same as being left-wing, but we are a Liberal country and therefore that would surely mean there are more Left-wing policies, as some of them are more in tune with Liberal thinking than right-wing policies.

Thank you so would you say the Torries economic stratergy now is right-wing?

I disagree. I suppose if you're talking of Welfare then you may have a point, but again I don;t really consider these 'Left-Wing' policies because when you're talking about a developed country, all have them. And I don't really see any reason that Liberalism goes more in hand with the Left Wing than the Right Wing economically.

I'd say it's centre right, certainly not Right, but right of centre

[pinkfreekyfrog]

(Original post by Pyramidologist)
David Cameron is linked to the extreme left (communist) UAF (''Unite Against Fascism'') thug organisation, his signature is on their website, listed as a founding signatory.

The UAF are a thug communist group who attack children and women, this is what David Cameron supports.

Video: UAF - Celebrating Violence Against Women in Tower Hamlets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature&v=OJcG2C22okE

This is what Cameron has signed up for, and financially backs.

Great thanks...oh no, wait it's some Fascist propaganda! This has nothing to do with my question, why bother? You are not helping anyone or changing my ideological views.

[pinkfreekyfrog]

(Original post by Steevee)
I disagree. I suppose if you're talking of Welfare then you may have a point, but again I don;t really consider these 'Left-Wing' policies because when you're talking about a developed country, all have them. And I don't really see any reason that Liberalism goes more in hand with the Left Wing than the Right Wing economically.

I'd say it's centre right, certainly not Right, but right of centre

Economically I would say Liberals are more right-wing, but socially they are more left-wing. However I guess it depends on how you view left-wing ideolgies...

I love debates!

[Steevee]

(Original post by pinkfreekyfrog)
Economically I would say Liberals are more right-wing, but socially they are more left-wing. However I guess it depends on how you view left-wing ideolgies...

I love debates!

Well this is the thing, I don't like associating Liberal and Authoritarian with the Left and Right wing. So I would never say socially Left or Right

But that's purely because I hate having to explain to people that I'm not some Authoritarian Fascist everytime I say something like 'Yeah, I'm a bit Right leaning'

[sconter]

england is a central-right country, not libral.

scotland and wales are left.

conservative, and the conservative party are 2 different things.

but regardless tories are midright so why would they need leftist policies?

[pinkfreekyfrog]

(Original post by ukip72)
Oppose grammar schools
0.7% of GDP on foreign aid
Happy to obey Brussels
Gay marriage.

The Tories are centre left. Any Conservatives who think otherwise are kidding themselves. UKIP is the real conservative party.

They don't oppose grammar schools: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/...grammar-shools

And they are not happy to obey Brussels, remember votes for prisoners debacle?

Gay marriage, well they have'nt made up their minds on that one: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-6290679.html

In my opinion Torries are centre- right, and agree with you on the UKIP thing

[Tedaus]

Funny how people on the right think Conservative are central left and people on the left think Labour are central right.

I wish there was a UKIP version of a left wing party - ie, further to the left than Labour. But populist opinion means we won't get that for a long time.

In answer to the question though, no I can't. Although far right people will think most of them are left wing, since their political spectrums are skewed.

[Classical Liberal]

NHS
Free education
Welfare State - State pensions etc
So on and so forth with government spending.

[pinkfreekyfrog]

(Original post by Steevee)
Well this is the thing, I don't like associating Liberal and Authoritarian with the Left and Right wing. So I would never say socially Left or Right

But that's purely because I hate having to explain to people that I'm not some Authoritarian Fascist everytime I say something like 'Yeah, I'm a bit Right leaning'

Hehe Anyone who assmes that is probably a bit ignorant... Personally I am all over the political spectrum (leftie, radical feminist who believe that she should have ultimate power ). The spectrum is too narrow

[Poppy-Fields]

(Original post by pinkfreekyfrog)
left-wing policies the Torries have propounded

They're trying to push gay marriage though....

[pinkfreekyfrog]

Tedaus, the Green Party!

[antimilitarist]

(Original post by Tedaus)
I wish there was a UKIP version of a left wing party - ie, further to the left than Labour. But populist opinion means we won't get that for a long time.

We have got it already.
http://www.socialist-labour-party.or...peanunion.html

[Steevee]

(Original post by pinkfreekyfrog)
Hehe Anyone who assmes that is probably a bit ignorant... Personally I am all over the political spectrum (leftie, radical feminist who believe that she should have ultimate power ). The spectrum is too narrow

Ahh I see :P

Although....Radical Femenist

Personally I'm all over the spectrum too really. Highly Liber in some aspects, highly Autho in others. But certainly mostly economically Right.

[tamimi]

(Original post by sconter)
england is a central-right country, not libral.

scotland and wales are left.

conservative, and the conservative party are 2 different things.

but regardless tories are midright so why would they need leftist policies?

You misspelled "Was".

[sconter]

(Original post by tamimi)
You misspelled "Was".

nope.