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  1. Sub150's Avatar
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    (Original post by ▀▀▒=(◕ ‿ ◕)=▒r▀▀)
    Graphite is a giant covalent structure and is an allotrope of carbon. Unlike diamond it if formed in 2D layers and does contain weak intermolecular forces. But as it is a giant covalent structure to sublime it you not only need to bread the weak intermolecular forces but the covalent bonds as well..
    Graphite is giant covalent... There is one delocalised electron, hence the conductivity and the lubrication; te attraction between layers is lowered as a result of this. It's not 2d... And I'm not sure if it contains intermolecular forces


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  3. ▀▀▒=(◕ ‿ ◕)=▒r▀▀'s Avatar
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    (Original post by Sub150)
    Graphite is giant covalent... There is one delocalised electron, hence the conductivity and the lubrication; te attraction between layers is lowered as a result of this. It's not 2d... And I'm not sure if it contains intermolecular forces


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    You're wrong. Don't confuse people...little knowledge is dangerous...
    1. It's lubrication is not a direct nor an indirect result of it having delocalised electrons.
    2.It is a giant molecule that continues in 2D ie it layers are on one plane
    3.It does contain intermolecular forces. Then what do you call the weaf forces between the layers? Van-de-wall forces? van-de-wall forces are also a type of intermolecular attractions!
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    Heey what's up with the calculations about Moles and Faradays/charge/electrons? And I don't understand electrolysis moles calculations...
    In fact I don't understand electrolysis at all...
    So how does that work?
    Does anyone know?
    I don't get ionic equations....
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    any recommended helpful youtube videos like the benardryl user for physics?
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    (Original post by ▀▀▒=(◕ ‿ ◕)=▒r▀▀)
    You're wrong. Don't confuse people...little knowledge is dangerous...
    1. It's lubrication is not a direct nor an indirect result of it having delocalised electrons.
    2.It is a giant molecule that continues in 2D ie it layers are on one plane
    3.It does contain intermolecular forces. Then what do you call the weaf forces between the layers? Van-de-wall forces? van-de-wall forces are also a type of intermolecular attractions!
    Absolutely right
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    (Original post by ▀▀▒=(◕ ‿ ◕)=▒r▀▀)
    What???
    this is wrong! Stop confusing me!
    What I meant was that there are NO intermolecular forces of attraction between molecules in graphite of the same layer. There are weak forces of attraction between the layers, hence its slippery property. But when you vaguely say that the inter molecular forces of attraction are weak, you can assume that intermolecular forces of attraction between molecules of the same layer are being talked about...
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    (Original post by ▀▀▒=(◕ ‿ ◕)=▒r▀▀)
    You're wrong. Don't confuse people...little knowledge is dangerous...
    1. It's lubrication is not a direct nor an indirect result of it having delocalised electrons.
    2.It is a giant molecule that continues in 2D ie it layers are on one plane
    3.It does contain intermolecular forces. Then what do you call the weaf forces between the layers? Van-de-wall forces? van-de-wall forces are also a type of intermolecular attractions!
    It is an indirect result of the graphite having delocalized an electron per C atom, as it therefore does not form the 4 C-C bonds which are present in diamond, which is why there are merely intermolecular forces between the layers.

    That's still misleading - atoms themselves are not 2D. Why not just say that graphite consists of layers?

    Van der Waals forces are all intermolecular forces of attraction. But graphite cannot melt or evaporate into different layers simply through the breaking of its van der Waals forces; you'd also need to break the (much stronger) C-C covalent bonds within each layer, which requires a lot more energy.
  9. ▀▀▒=(◕ ‿ ◕)=▒r▀▀'s Avatar
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    That's still misleading - atoms themselves are not 2D. Why not just say that graphite consists of layers?

    Van der Waals forces are all intermolecular forces of attraction. But graphite cannot melt or evaporate into different layers simply through the breaking of its van der Waals forces; you'd also need to break the (much stronger) C-C covalent bonds within each layer, which requires a lot more energy.
    Thats what i posted in the previous page!
    (Original post by ▀▀▒=(◕ ‿ ◕)=▒r▀▀)
    Graphite is a giant covalent structure and is an allotrope of carbon. Unlike diamond it if formed in 2D layers and does contain weak intermolecular forces. But as it is a giant covalent structure to sublime it you not only need to bread the weak intermolecular forces but the covalent bonds as well..
    Um mm, yes you're right about the inter-molecular forces occurring as a result of a lone electron.
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    I am a New Member. Just asking if you need or needn't go through all the previous posts before reading a new one. People just say this and that is misleading "out of the context"
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    What I meant was that there are NO intermolecular forces of attraction between molecules in graphite of the same layer.
    No you didnt mean it. Read what you wrote below

    (Original post by Relaxedexams)
    There arent intermolecular attractions in graphite. Graphite is a giant covalant substance. It doesn't have intermolecular forces.
    But NOW you mean IT
    (Original post by Relaxedexams)
    There are weak forces of attraction between the layers, hence its slippery property.
    (Original post by Relaxedexams;37797396. But [B)
    when you vaguely say[/B] that the inter molecular forces of attraction are weak, you can assume that intermolecular forces of attraction between molecules of the same layer are being talked about...
    What did you mean when you wrote the earlier post? Your's was the most vaguest , almost confusing me (thats why i am replying)
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    (Original post by ▀▀▒=(◕ ‿ ◕)=▒r▀▀)
    No you didnt mean it. Read what you wrote below


    But NOW you mean IT




    What did you mean when you wrote the earlier post? Your's was the most vaguest , almost confusing me (thats why i am replying)
    What I meant when I wrote the earlier post was that graphite has no intermolecular forces of attraction, like in a simple molecular substance like water for example. That is why I stated that graphite is a giant covalent substance and also asked if the forces between layers were being talked about.
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    can anyone tell me how to find the concentration in g/dm3...there's a question in the last part of hte ;ast question in jan 2012 paper 2...sumone help!
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    i'm terrible at chemistry! good luck everybody in the last exam tomorrow x
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    (Original post by NilFBosh)
    can anyone tell me how to find the concentration in g/dm3...there's a question in the last part of hte ;ast question in jan 2012 paper 2...sumone help!
    Number of mole = mass/RAM

    If you know moles and RAM find mass...

    Conc = mols/vol

    Use that mass value instead of mols

    HOWEVER- THEY WILL NEVER ASK I DON'T THINK FOR A RESULT IN G/dm3 - only mols/dm3

    Check If you have read the question wrong!


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    doez anyone know tha answers for that question where a table came and we had to write the precipates.the question came for our paper
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    (Original post by harrietx123x)
    i'm terrible at chemistry! good luck everybody in the last exam tomorrow x
    goodluck to u too!! we sail in da same boat!!
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    doez anyone know tha answers for that question where a table came and we had to write the precipates.the question came for our paper
    It was precipitate, no precipitate and precipitate.
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    (Original post by Relaxedexams)
    It was precipitate, no precipitate and precipitate.
    I believe calcium and barium made precipitates and potassium no precipitate?
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    It was precipitate, no precipitate and precipitate.
    thats great..thats what i got but what was what? i think i got sumthing like dis

    precipate of....

    no precipitate

    precipitate of...
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