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Reply 600
Heey what's up with the calculations about Moles and Faradays/charge/electrons? And I don't understand electrolysis moles calculations...
In fact I don't understand electrolysis at all...
So how does that work?
Does anyone know? :smile:
I don't get ionic equations....
:frown:
Reply 601
any recommended helpful youtube videos like the benardryl user for physics?
Original post by (◕ ‿ ▒r▀▀
You're wrong. Don't confuse people...little knowledge is dangerous...
1. It's lubrication is not a direct nor an indirect result of it having delocalised electrons.
2.It is a giant molecule that continues in 2D ie it layers are on one plane
3.It does contain intermolecular forces. Then what do you call the weaf forces between the layers? Van-de-wall forces? van-de-wall forces are also a type of intermolecular attractions!


Absolutely right
Original post by (◕ ‿ ▒r▀▀
What???
this is wrong! Stop confusing me!


What I meant was that there are NO intermolecular forces of attraction between molecules in graphite of the same layer. There are weak forces of attraction between the layers, hence its slippery property. But when you vaguely say that the inter molecular forces of attraction are weak, you can assume that intermolecular forces of attraction between molecules of the same layer are being talked about...
Original post by (◕ ‿ ▒r▀▀
You're wrong. Don't confuse people...little knowledge is dangerous...
1. It's lubrication is not a direct nor an indirect result of it having delocalised electrons.
2.It is a giant molecule that continues in 2D ie it layers are on one plane
3.It does contain intermolecular forces. Then what do you call the weaf forces between the layers? Van-de-wall forces? van-de-wall forces are also a type of intermolecular attractions!


It is an indirect result of the graphite having delocalized an electron per C atom, as it therefore does not form the 4 C-C bonds which are present in diamond, which is why there are merely intermolecular forces between the layers.

That's still misleading - atoms themselves are not 2D. Why not just say that graphite consists of layers?

Van der Waals forces are all intermolecular forces of attraction. But graphite cannot melt or evaporate into different layers simply through the breaking of its van der Waals forces; you'd also need to break the (much stronger) C-C covalent bonds within each layer, which requires a lot more energy.
Original post by Big-Daddy

That's still misleading - atoms themselves are not 2D. Why not just say that graphite consists of layers?

Van der Waals forces are all intermolecular forces of attraction. But graphite cannot melt or evaporate into different layers simply through the breaking of its van der Waals forces; you'd also need to break the (much stronger) C-C covalent bonds within each layer, which requires a lot more energy.


Thats what i posted in the previous page!
Original post by (◕ ‿ ▒r▀▀
Graphite is a giant covalent structure and is an allotrope of carbon. Unlike diamond it if formed in 2D layers and does contain weak intermolecular forces. But as it is a giant covalent structure to sublime it you not only need to bread the weak intermolecular forces but the covalent bonds as well..


Um mm, yes you're right about the inter-molecular forces occurring as a result of a lone electron.
I am a New Member. Just asking if you need or needn't go through all the previous posts before reading a new one. People just say this and that is misleading "out of the context"
Original post by Relaxedexams
What I meant was that there are NO intermolecular forces of attraction between molecules in graphite of the same layer.

No you didnt mean it. Read what you wrote below

Original post by Relaxedexams
There arent intermolecular attractions in graphite. Graphite is a giant covalant substance. It doesn't have intermolecular forces.

But NOW you mean IT
Original post by Relaxedexams
There are weak forces of attraction between the layers, hence its slippery property.


[QUOTE=Relaxedexams;37797396. But when you vaguely say that the inter molecular forces of attraction are weak, you can assume that intermolecular forces of attraction between molecules of the same layer are being talked about...

What did you mean when you wrote the earlier post? Your's was the most vaguest , almost confusing me (thats why i am replying)
Original post by (◕ ‿ ▒r▀▀
No you didnt mean it. Read what you wrote below


But NOW you mean IT




What did you mean when you wrote the earlier post? Your's was the most vaguest , almost confusing me (thats why i am replying)


What I meant when I wrote the earlier post was that graphite has no intermolecular forces of attraction, like in a simple molecular substance like water for example. That is why I stated that graphite is a giant covalent substance and also asked if the forces between layers were being talked about.
Reply 609
can anyone tell me how to find the concentration in g/dm3...there's a question in the last part of hte ;ast question in jan 2012 paper 2...sumone help!
i'm terrible at chemistry! good luck everybody in the last exam tomorrow x
Reply 611
Original post by NilFBosh
can anyone tell me how to find the concentration in g/dm3...there's a question in the last part of hte ;ast question in jan 2012 paper 2...sumone help!


Number of mole = mass/RAM

If you know moles and RAM find mass...

Conc = mols/vol

Use that mass value instead of mols

HOWEVER- THEY WILL NEVER ASK I DON'T THINK FOR A RESULT IN G/dm3 - only mols/dm3

Check If you have read the question wrong!


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Reply 612
doez anyone know tha answers for that question where a table came and we had to write the precipates.the question came for our paper
Original post by harrietx123x
i'm terrible at chemistry! good luck everybody in the last exam tomorrow x


goodluck to u too!! we sail in da same boat!!:frown:
Original post by NilFBosh
doez anyone know tha answers for that question where a table came and we had to write the precipates.the question came for our paper


It was precipitate, no precipitate and precipitate.
Original post by Relaxedexams
It was precipitate, no precipitate and precipitate.


I believe calcium and barium made precipitates and potassium no precipitate?
Reply 616
Original post by Relaxedexams
It was precipitate, no precipitate and precipitate.


thats great..thats what i got but what was what? i think i got sumthing like dis

precipate of....

no precipitate

precipitate of...
does anyone know what we have to know about rusting for tomorrow's exam? I seem to have no notes whatsoever!! :s-smilie:
Reply 618
Original post by must try harder.
does anyone know what we have to know about rusting for tomorrow's exam? I seem to have no notes whatsoever!! :s-smilie:


You need to know that it occurs in the presence of oxygen and water, that its chemical formula is Fe2O3.nH20, and what methods of protection from rusting there are: galvanising, coating, alloying ect. I think that's all, sorry if I've missed anything!
Original post by Niema20
You need to know that it occurs in the presence of oxygen and water, that its chemical formula is Fe2O3.nH20, and what methods of protection from rusting there are: galvanising, coating, alloying ect. I think that's all, sorry if I've missed anything!


thank you soo much! :smile:

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