Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]

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  1. Yorrap's Avatar
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    Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    I have one week to prepare :/

    Anyone else doing this?

    23.05.2012
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    Last edited by Yorrap; 23-05-2012 at 04:43.
  2. areyousure?'s Avatar
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    I'm doing it. No idea how to prepare for it though
  3. Yorrap's Avatar
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    (Original post by areyousure?)
    I'm doing it. No idea how to prepare for it though
    They don't have a specification for this right?
    I am going to do the past papers and then remember stuff like flame tests, reflux/distillation/recrystalization, hydroxide precipitates etc

    I read somewhere that there was a hess diagram in 3B this time, I wonder what they are going to ask in 6B, electrochemical cells? lol
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    i hope it goes all well
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    :eek:4 days left to prepare from scratch(i mean do QP and go through revision notes!)....still got to at least 4 yrs Unit 6B Chem QP,4yrs of Chem U2 QP(sitting for AS and A2 together:cool:).....and fininsh off the remaining 2 yrs QP of BIO Unit 1.
    How am i supposed to finish all of it in just 4 days?do u think it's possible??:confused:
  6. Yorrap's Avatar
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    (Original post by k121op)
    :eek:4 days left to prepare from scratch(i mean do QP and go through revision notes!)....still got to at least 4 yrs Unit 6B Chem QP,4yrs of Chem U2 QP(sitting for AS and A2 together:cool:).....and fininsh off the remaining 2 yrs QP of BIO Unit 1.
    How am i supposed to finish all of it in just 4 days?do u think it's possible??:confused:
    Try to finish the question papers, if you can't answer a question use the mark scheme instead of wasting time on it (remember you have 4 days).

    If you feel that you won't be able to make it in time, just read the questions & answers, so you at least see all types of questions before the real exam.

    I have only one 6B paper left, and I will start that paper right after posting this message :P and then re read notes and experiment pages in the ****ty edexcel book xD
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    Do you think we'll need to know mechanisms for Unit 6?

    *freaking out*
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
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    Do you think we'll need to know mechanisms for Unit 6?

    *freaking out*
    I would advice you to check the SN1 and SN2 mechanisms from unit4. They may suddenly ask it in an experiment to determine the order of a reaction.

    I am not edexcel but here is my answer, don't blame me later xD ;

    You don't exactly need mechanisms of unit4 and 5 (like drawing benzene rings etc.) but of course you should know the reactions and what the products, reactants are (and it's always the best to know everything xD lol).. For example, in one paper the procedure is for making an ester which is a topic from unit 4 and in another one for making an azo dye, which is a topic from unit 5. If you don't understand what happens during the instructions, you may have problems while ansering the questions later.

    In short, if you mean "knowing and drawing mechanisms" like in unit4 and 5, no it's not needed.

    But again, I am not edexcel and they can decide to ask a mechanism, lol
    Last edited by Yorrap; 17-05-2012 at 07:53.
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    (Original post by Yorrap)
    I would advice you to check the SN1 and SN2 mechanisms from unit4. They may suddenly ask it in an experiment to determine the order of a reaction.

    I am not edexcel but here is my answer, don't blame me later xD ;

    You don't exactly need mechanisms of unit4 and 5 (like drawing benzene rings etc.) but of course you should know the reactions and what the products, reactants are (and it's always the best to know everything xD lol).. For example, in one paper the procedure is for making an ester which is a topic from unit 4 and in another one for making an azo dye, which is a topic from unit 5. If you don't understand what happens during the instructions, you may have problems while ansering the questions later.

    In short, if you mean "knowing and drawing mechanisms" like in unit4 and 5, no it's not needed.

    But again, I am not edexcel and they can decide to ask a mechanism, lol
    Thank you so much!

    I'll just read through everything. So far, in the past papers (new specification) they haven't asked for the mechanisms.

    They could this year though! :eek:

    ...I hate paranoia.
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    (Original post by sevenbooks)
    Thank you so much!

    I'll just read through everything. So far, in the past papers (new specification) they haven't asked for the mechanisms.

    They could this year though! :eek:

    ...I hate paranoia.
    Well, seems like there was a hess diagram in the last 3B paper xD

    So I don't know what to expect, lol.
    Last edited by Yorrap; 17-05-2012 at 08:50.
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    Hellooo,
    Don't they usually ask questions on transition metals, aldehydes and ketones, rates of equilibria as well as arenes?n I also saw something on actyl chlorides in one of the papers.
    *panicking as well*
    Please post revision notes as well as any other tips for chemistry
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    Did you guys do any experiments for this unit in the school?
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    i'm taking the exam too :/ is there any old syllabus papers for this exam? where can i find them?
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    Gosh I wish I could find something to help revise the colors of the Transition metals and their oxidation states. I always forget some!
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    Gosh I wish I could find something to help revise the colors of the Transition metals and their oxidation states. I always forget some!
    You don't need to know "ALL" oxidation states, if I am not mistaken.

    just the common ones, 2+/3+ like hydroxide percipitates.

    again, did you guys do any experiments for this unit?
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    Anyone knows colouts of the complex ions of chromium ions ? I am confused
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    (Original post by Yorrap)
    You don't need to know "ALL" oxidation states, if I am not mistaken.

    just the common ones, 2+/3+ like hydroxide percipitates.

    again, did you guys do any experiments for this unit?
    we didnt do any experiments at school for this. Now i will start to solve the past papers.. :/ i'm worried though..
  18. Otlichno's Avatar
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    Vanadium:

    (V) is yellow
    (IV) is blue
    (III) is green
    (II) is lavender

    Chromium:

    (III) is green
    (VI) is yellow in CrO4 2- and orange in Cr2O7 2-
    (II) is blue

    Manganese:

    (II) is pale pink
    (VI) is deep green
    (VII) is purple
    (IV) is a brown solid.

    Iron:

    (II) is pale green
    (III) is yellow in solution

    Cobalt:

    (II) Hydrated is red and anhydrous is blue.
    (III) is red

    Nickel:

    (II) is green

    Copper:

    (II) is blue or green in CuCl4 2-
    (I) is white
    CuCO3 is green
    CuO is black
    Cu2O is red
    [Cu(NH3)4] 2+ is deep blue
    [Cu(RNH2)4] 2+ is deep blue (R can be any ligand).
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    Complexes with Sodium Hydroxide:

    Mg 2+ and Ca 2+ white ppt, insoluble in excess
    Al 3+, Zn 2+ and Pb 2+ give a white ppi, soluble in excess
    Cu 2+ blue ppt that turns black on warming
    Ni 2+ light green ppt insoluble in excess
    Fe 2+ dirty green ppt, turns brown on standing
    Cr 3+ greyish green ppt soluble in excess giving a deep green solution
    Fe 3+ foxy red ppt
    Mn 2+ beige ppt turns brown on standing
    Co 2+ blue ppt that turns grey
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    Re: Chemistry Unit 6B [6CH08][Edexcel][International Candidates][22.05.2012]
    Complexes with ammonia:

    Mg 2+, Ca 2+, Al 3+ and Pb2+ give a white ppt insoluble in excess
    Zn 2+ gives a white ppt soluble in excess
    Cu 2+ gives a blue ppt turning deep blue solution in excess
    Ni 2+ gives a green ppt turning to a pinkish solution in excess
    Fe 2+ gives a dirty green ppt turning brown on standing
    Cr 3+ gives a green ppt insoluble in excess
    Fe 3+ gives a foxy red ppt
    Mn 2+ gives a beige ppt that turns brown on standing

    Are there any more we need to know?
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