[FatCharlie]

(Original post by dongonaeatu)
Again this is quite simple a lie. How can i stereotype scripture? Are you saying sharia law is peaceful? We take the premise muslims follow the koran. The koran preaches violence and hate. Therefore muslims will preach violence and hate. And yes there are peaceful verses, but remember if there is a contradiction in verses you take the later verse to be true- and funnily enough all the violent verses come later in the koran. What about the principle of taqiyya? Is this peaceful? Sharia law? Islam is more of a political and social structure than a religion. It is not peaceful. It is not culture, it is religion. We only have to look at the koran to see this.

The stereotyping comment was about your comments about the previous poster.

All religions are. But when you go to threads like these, people seem to forget that. I just cannot understand why people can be so hateful and have such a negative eye when it comes to Islam but non of the other Abrahamistic religions.

Muslims do not preach violence and hate. At least non of the ones I've come a cross and I've met a few.

[dongonaeatu]

(Original post by FatCharlie)
The stereotyping comment was about your comments about the previous poster.

All religions are. But when you go to threads like these, people seem to forget that. I just cannot understand why people can be so hateful and have such a negative eye when it comes to Islam but non of the other Abrahamistic religions.

Muslims do not preach violence and hate. At least non of the ones I've come a cross and I've met a few.

You haven't addressed any of my points.

[Lawabiding]

(Original post by dongonaeatu)
Again this is quite simple a lie. How can i stereotype scripture? Are you saying sharia law is peaceful? We take the premise muslims follow the koran. The koran preaches violence and hate. Therefore muslims will preach violence and hate. And yes there are peaceful verses, but remember if there is a contradiction in verses you take the later verse to be true- and funnily enough all the violent verses come later in the koran. What about the principle of taqiyya? Is this peaceful? Sharia law? Islam is more of a political and social structure than a religion. It is not peaceful. It is not culture, it is religion. We only have to look at the koran to see this.

Sources? Could you give us a link to such verses.

[FatCharlie]

(Original post by dongonaeatu)
You haven't addressed any of my points.

I sort of did. Like you only sort of addressed mine. So let's call that even. Since I got an early start tomorrow, I'm going to bed now. You are more than welcome to go back and address what I wrote, and I will be more specific about answering you tomorrow.

[dongonaeatu]

(Original post by Lawabiding)
Sources? Could you give us a link to such verses.

no find it yourself
read a book on it
read the koran
i am sick and tired of people asking for verses, look for it yourself. It is one google search away from you.

[dongonaeatu]

(Original post by FatCharlie)
I sort of did. Like you only sort of addressed mine. So let's call that even. Since I got an early start tomorrow, I'm going to bed now. You are more than welcome to go back and address what I wrote, and I will be more specific about answering you tomorrow.

Lol. You didn't address any of my points. You started ranting how rape was cultural and not religion (a typical response) which is simply not true if we read the koran.
Good night and god bless

[JaquelleSade]

(Original post by Perseveranze)
Turning to God, is turning to Islam.

And with all due respect, but I don't think Muslims care what others think about our faith. I mean, we're not Muslims to please and be "approved" by the masses. We're Muslims because we believe Islam is the truth. It's hard to really express it in words, but to us it's more like a fact than a mere faith. You wouldn't really understand until you could actually see it through our eyes.

So really, if this twitter trend is "annoying some people", then good for them. People will always look for reasons to hate.



Not quite.

1. There is no "Islamic country", more accurately it's called "Islamic State". What there is today is Muslim-majority nations who implement a mixture of both Shariah and man-made/culture based constitutions.

2. It's not women, but people of all types, that may leave a Muslim country. This is usually to escape oppression that is caused either by foreign troops or corrupt governments. Not due to Islam.

The irony is that oppression was most prominent when the likes of Ben Ali, Mubarak tried to rule by secularism.



How is twitter being shoved down your throat? I think twitter have an account cancellation page. I've never used it, but i'd suspect they do. Don't give up finding it.

I was asking for opinions not a bloody lecture, at no point did I state that I did not like the trend, however instead I stated that with all the prejudism in Britain today because of extremist muslims this trend could encourage hate. If you cannot understand what is written then do not reply! And as for you claiming that 'we' cannot understand how it feels to understand what the 'truth' is, well that is wrong. Atheisms believe that their is no God through their eyes, their faith is strong, just as Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. For them these are also facts, as a Christian I know how this feels. Please do not be so arrogant, respect for all religions is what is needed, no need to be so uptight!

[Lawabiding]

(Original post by dongonaeatu)
Lol. You didn't address any of my points. You started ranting how rape was cultural and not religion (a typical response) which is simply not true if we read the koran.
Good night and god bless

Can't prove yourself, damn...

Are you implying that Islam encourages rape?

[dongonaeatu]

(Original post by JaquelleSade)
I was asking for opinions not a bloody lecture, at no point did I state that I did not like the trend, however instead I stated that with all the prejudism in Britain today because of extremist muslims this trend could encourage hate. If you cannot understand what is written then do not reply! And as for you claiming that 'we' cannot understand how it feels to understand what the 'truth' is, well that is wrong. Atheisms believe that their is no God through their eyes, their faith is strong, just as Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. For them these are also facts, as a Christian I know how this feels. Please do not be so arrogant, respect for all religions is what is needed, no need to be so uptight!

What prejudise? 40% of british muslims want sharia law implemented

[dongonaeatu]

(Original post by Lawabiding)
Can't prove yourself, damn...

Are you implying that Islam encourages rape?

Yes

[Blackburn_Allen]

(Original post by Student296)
I respect that you see the beauty of Islam. The trend does not mean that Islam is being forced onto people in any way so I don't see anything wrong with it. The Qur'an says: “Let there be no compulsion in religion". (2:256)

Yet it also says: "Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks and when ye have caused a bloodbath among them, bind a bond firmly on them" (Surah 47, verse 4)


Religion is poison. Whether it be Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism or whatever religion you can put in front of me, it is poison. It poisons everything around it. It has brought us nothing good, only bad. If anything #TurnFromReligion should be trending.

[JaquelleSade]

(Original post by dongonaeatu)
What prejudise? 40% of british muslims want sharia law implemented

I was simply asking about whether people think this trend could cause more conflict, I was not asking people for their personal views on Islam as a religion!

[dongonaeatu]

(Original post by Lawabiding)
Can't prove yourself, damn...

Are you implying that Islam encourages rape?

Sura 4 (The Women), Verse 92.
4.92: And it does not behoove a believer to kill a believer except by mistake, and whoever kills a believer by mistake, he should free a believing slave, and blood-money should be paid to his people unless they remit it as alms; but if he be from a tribe hostile to you and he is a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (suffices), and if he is from a tribe between whom and you there is a covenant, the blood-money should be paid to his people along with the freeing of a believing slave; but he who cannot find (a slave) should fast for two months successively:

what is your opinion on islam and slavery

[dongonaeatu]

(Original post by JaquelleSade)
I was simply asking about whether people think this trend could cause more conflict, I was not asking people for their personal views on Islam as a religion!

well they are pretty linked

[Lawabiding]

(Original post by dongonaeatu)
Yes

Think you're the one who need to use Google, mate. http://www.muslimaccess.com/articles...e_in_islam.asp Can't really insist you've read the "Koran" and expect people to believe you when you can't "be bothered" to find the link . Anyway, I think I've addressed your point.

[Drunk Punx]

Is this an Internet version of the Jehovah's Witnesses?

Or have I completely missed something here?

[dongonaeatu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w

[Bill_Gates]

Christianity is just about as much to blame if not more than islam so far. Both are wrong in trying to sell it like ol gill.

[JaquelleSade]

(Original post by dongonaeatu)
well they are pretty linked

In an elaborative conversation that may be the case, yet you failed to even address the question of whether the trend will lead to conflict, instead commenting on the Sharia law. Considering only 17.2% of Britain is non-white and only 4.6% of the UK are Muslim (all races) I think the 40% is rather insignificant.

[dongonaeatu]

(Original post by Lawabiding)
Think you're the one who need to use Google, mate. http://www.muslimaccess.com/articles...e_in_islam.asp Can't really insist you've read the "Koran" and expect people to believe you when you can't "be bothered" to find the link . Anyway, I think I've addressed your point.

again, the koran contradicts itself but if this happens it says take the authority of the later verses- the violent verses.

i'd suggest to read irshad manji's " the trouble with islam today"
an excellent non-biased and historically accurate and well written book.