[Drunk Punx]

(Original post by 'bob')
Science isn't about seeing a number in a few coincidental places and then drawing irrational conclusions from that and that alone...

Science-ISH. God I wish people on this forum could ****ing read

It was a Doctor that wrote that, by the way. I'm sure that if he felt it was useless then he wouldn't have bothered writing it down.

He applied a variation of the "old herbal doctrine" that's mentioned to create his own doctrine concerning this subject.

Base science is about observation and then drawing conclusions from the observations post-testing. How can you test something like this? You can't. So you ponder instead. And that was the result of said pondering.

I don't suppose you have a better idea of how these events might be linked? (It might be worth mentioning that Descartes saw the pineal as "the seat of the soul". So no, it's not 'just numbers', it's also got some blokes opinion thrown into the mix [yes, I know who Descartes is. I'm being facetious] ).

[Fuzzpig]

(Original post by Drunk Punx)
Yeah it is
And yet it's still more accurate than anything Derek can pull out of his hat.

"The human pineal gland becomes visible in the developing fetus at seven weeks, or 49 days, after conception. Of great interest to me was finding out that this is nearly exactly the moment in which one can clearly see the first indication of male or female gender.
Before this time, the sex of the fetus in indeterminate, or unknown. Thus, the pineal gland and the most important differentiation of humanity, male and female gender, appear at the same time...
...I already knew that the Tibetan Buddhist Book Of The Dead teaches that it takes 49 days for the soul of the recently dead to 'reincarnate'. That is, 7 weeks from the time of death of one person elapses until the life-force's 'rebirth' into its next body...
...It takes 49 days from conception for the first signs of the human pineal to appear. 49 days is also when the fetus differentiates into male or female gender.
Thus the soul's rebirth, the pineal, and the sexual organs all require 49 days before they manifest."
He then makes a reference about how the above isn't entirely dissimilar to the old herbal doctrine of signatures "which suggested that a herb's properties depended upon how it looked. If a plant looked like a heart, it must be good for heart disease.
What I'm proposing is a 'doctrine of elapsed time'. If Buddhist texts and human embryology reveal that different developments require 49 days, the events must be related. This association is perhaps logically shaky, but also intuitively appealing."

It's a lot more scientific than "she'll be reincarnated soon. My spidey-senses tell me so".

I think you'll find that comes under the realm of 'amusing coincidence' rather than Science or indeed Science-ish. Correlation and causation are the key here.

[Drunk Punx]

(Original post by aliluvschoc)
I think you'll find that comes under the realm of 'amusing coincidence' rather than Science. Correlation and causation are the key here.

If I typed the whole thing out, I'd be here all night. That being said, given the amount of flak I'm receiving for posting that, maybe it would've been better to bother typing out the whole thing.

"wishful thinking" (when referring to how his theory is similar to the herbal doctrine in the sense that just because something looks like an object, it doesn't mean it's good for that object. I'm surprised how many people actually over-looked that, I thought it was fairly well implied).

There's the short version.

[Steevee]

She's not dead!

I've been taking damn good care of her and I'm insulted anyone would beg to differ!

[minimarshmallow]

I've always said that 'psychics' should be allowed to exist and even take people's money as long as the people they do 'readings' or whatever for want them to, and it isn't causing them any harm - no matter whether I believe in it or not. I might think its hocum, but if someone gets some happiness out of hearing that their loved ones are okay in the afterlife or the spirit world or whatever, then I think fair play to them.
However, this is just plain wrong, unless the McCanns went to him to see if he could talk to her and find out if she was dead or not - which they obviously didn't - he shouldn't have done this and he clearly just wants the publicity.

[Pindar]

(Original post by ALazyThracian)
Does this man have NO shame, how dare him come out and claim this.
Imagine how the poor parents feel when this happened utterly shocking.

Views?

Surely they are intelligent enough not to take such claims seriously?

[alex92100]

She probably is dead, and to be honest, with the strong possibility that she fell into the hands of paedophilic gangs, it would probably be better for her if she has been dead for years.

[Xhotas]

Regardless if she is dead or not, a loving parent would never give up on their child.

I don't argue that the media exposition hasn't meant the search has gone on longer than most, but of course they will milk it as much as they can. More attention means more funds, more funds means the likelihood of finding her will increase, dead or alive.

Some people forget that they are real people and real parents. No one here would want to go through what they have, be it their child, friend or anyone. I lost my best friend, hell I'd go to the ends of the Earth to find him and around again. I'd never give up, regardless. That's what the McCann's are doing and can you blame them?

[Rybee]

I knew physics was just fictional bull**** from an early age. That's why I never took it at A level.

[Rybee]

Acorah made his claims days after the McCanns marked the fifth anniversary of three-year-old Madeleine’s disappearance from the holiday resort. He was speaking while promoting his latest tour.



lol...

[winning11]

while it's true she is dead, better coming from her actual parents than derek.

[Leon Trotsky]

My auntie stole a pair of expensive designer sunglasses from him at a book signing once. She is from Liverpool.

[Curzon]

Acorah wouldn't seem so ridiculous if he hadn't been completely exposed as a fraud on Most Haunted... how do even people who believe in that kind of stuff take him seriously after that?

[MarcD]

This is why I despise these "psychics". Charlie Brooker explains it better than I ever could though:



Using a FAWWWRK!

[Hopple]

(Original post by ALazyThracian)
PSYCHIC Derek Acorah has outraged Kate and Gerry McCann by insisting daughter Madeleine is dead.
A source close to the McCanns said: “They are sickened by this.”

Acorah, 62, has added to Kate and Gerry’s anguish by claiming Madeleine died years ago — and will soon be reincarnated.

He said: “I know her parents are convinced Maddie is alive and I’m really sorry - but the little one has been over in the spirit world for some time.

“I don’t think she’ll be there long before she reincarnates.

“When children pass over who haven’t had full lives I believe they choose the time to come back in the same form again — as another little girl.”

The McCanns are said to be disgusted by Acorah’s claims. A source said: “Kate and Gerry are sickened. This character Derek Acorah is nothing but a self-publicist. It’s incredibly distasteful and insensitive.”

Millionaire medium Acorah, ex-host of TV’s Most Haunted, claimed a messenger from the spirit world named Sam told him Madeleine was dead — shortly after she vanished in Praia da Luz, Portugal, five years ago.

Source- http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ead-claim.html


Does this man have NO shame, how dare him come out and claim this.
Imagine how the poor parents feel when this happened utterly shocking.

Views?

Well, that's the closest thing we'll get to a confession, better lock him up.

[Kruz]

Strong lingering smell of bull****, and lets be honest Derek has been on down.

[MagicNMedicine]

Its simple all he needs do is say where her body is and then nobody will doubt his psychic abilities.

[geetar]

Watching Most Haunted, Derek Acorah might be the most ridiculous person ever to have existed.

[thunder_chunky]

Everything Derek Acorah is and represents is a farce. He doesn't deserve one iota of the attention he gets. Quite how people take him seriously baffles me. And this just further proves how full of **** he is.

[zara55]

I'm gazing into my crystal ball... wait... something's happening... I'm getting a message... ooohhhh... i'm listening... it's coming across from the other side.... here's the message... it's from Derek... he's brain dead... he just wants to say sorry....