[Spiky_Roses]

(Original post by jo d)
I never mentioned introversion. That is distinct from shyness.

But it is a personality type that is often associated with shyness and in this context is implied to be indicating shyness - not my fault if you are just going to pick holes in my language instead of commenting on the content

[Philbert]

(Original post by jo d)
Life is tough. if people are on their own, so be it.

Your username is entirely appropriate.

[Dr Good Manners]

O I C. I'm guessing your next thread will be you slagging off the terminally ill and the disabled OP. Amirite?

You nasty piece of work.

[jo d]

(Original post by Spiky_Roses)
But it is a personality type that is often associated with shyness and in this context is implied to be indicating shyness - not my fault if you are just going to pick holes in my language instead of commenting on the content

but the two are distinct. How can even be a discussion if improper terms are used?

[Rarrgh]

(Original post by jo d)
Nobody does or should fear anybody, this is a basic human maxim. Shyness is defined as being scared of others, and hence literally "shying away" from interaction.

Depending on where you look the definition of shy changes. However I checked a few sites and not a single one claimed that to be shy meant that you actually feared another person.

It claims that you will be awkward, uncomfortable, unsure of what to do or say, but not fearful. Being Fearful of another human being shouldn't happen. But realistically it always will happen and it is not the definition of shy.

[Alpharius]

(Original post by jo d)
Life is tough. if people are on their own, so be it.

Your boring.

(Original post by Spiky_Roses)
Whilst I do like talking to some people, has it not occurred to you that some people would prefer sitting on their own than talking to some other people like you?
It's a bit big headed to think that everyone WANTS to talk to you when they don't look like they do... maybe they just don't like you very much?

If they don't want to intergrate, they'd say so.

As it is, they never do, some just need someone who isn't intimidating to encourage them to talk to others.

[sevenbooks]

Maybe the "shy people" you met are not actually shy...?

Maybe they just don't like you or want to talk to you, OP.

Not that it's hard to imagine why, the way you keep on saying you want to "kick them to the curb".

=.="

[Naarim]

(Original post by jo d)
heh... so confidence is not a positive quality (or not traditionally deemed so)?

And yes, value is subjective. Everything is subjective. This does not mean that humans don't look down on those who don't value themselves.

Confidence is positive yes, but over confidence and looking down upon someone is not.

Being shy doesn't mean someone doesn't value themselves.

[moonkatt]

I doubt I'd ever talk to the OP, not because I'm shy or anything, but because generally I don't talk to tossers.

[Negaduck]

Being quiet doesn't necessarily mean you lack confidence.

I'm confident but i'm an introvert.

I'm relatively quiet in conversation but I could talk if I really wanted. The problem for me is that I generally don't want to talk to people too often. Of course I enjoy socialising at times, but sometimes being alone is far more enjoyable. Making small talk is never fun, for instance. The problem I have with conversation is that it generally isn't very interesting and I only tend to give my input during interesting conversations. There is usually one loud and obnoxious person who just doesn't stop talking about something which is tediously boring and never lets anyone else start a conversation that is actually stimulating.

The amount of ignorant comments on the thread is surprising too. Lets throw anyone who shows any shy/ quiet qualities to the curb, sure, watch the average national level of intelligence fall through the floor.

[xTazx]

I've been there, and I always feel like trying to help them (and I have a few times). Sometimes all it takes is for someone to recognise that you feel small, and let you know they know how it feels, to know you're not insignificant.

[buildalegohouse]

All this crap about the fact that shy people should be left with the curb is utter rubbish. To say that a shy person isn't equal to someone is outgoing is, to me, and to most other people, disgusting.
Like I said, people just need to accept that everyone is different. You can't simply force someone who is outgoing to shrink into themselves and avoid situations because they're otherwise inconvenient. You can't force a shy person to come out of thier shell with a click of the fingers. It doesn't work like that, and that's what a lot of people fail to realise. Introverts can be neglected by the rest of society, in a lot of cases, shy people are happy not to be the centre of attention. I can't understand why people won't accept that. They don't need the ignorant comments, or your sympathy. Leave them be.

[silverbolt]

(Original post by jo d)
heh heh lol... Somebody who is so fearful of others is naturally looked down on.



hmm... consistency is wanting in you, is it not?

your logic is eskewed. Severely. and no basis in proof or reality for that matter.

Nope not in the slighting. Im consistantly thinking your a prick for a start.

anyway - the people i have no time for are those as i said who cant do anything such as the person i quoted. But they as a rule are in very much a minority. and in any event i would never advocate cruelty or saying they are useless.

Theres a difference between cruelty and expecting someone to help themself when you have exhausted all other options yourself.

[jo d]

(Original post by Alpharius)
Your boring.

how am I being boring? I simply don't care about them.

If they don't want to intergrate, they'd say so.

As it is, they never do, some just need someone who isn't intimidating to encourage them to talk to others.

If they're intimidated by others, whose fault is it? It's their own, not the other person's.

[taamuuu]

I'm a very confident & motivated person. I really dont like it when people are all shy - and then other people go all twee over them. To be honest, if you want good friendships/relationships with people then I guess sometimes you've gotta come out of your comfort zone.

[jo d]

(Original post by taamuuu)
I'm a very confident & motivated person. I really dont like it when people are all shy - and then other people go all twee over them. To be honest, if you want good friendships/relationships with people then I guess sometimes you've gotta come out of your comfort zone.

At least somebody is being non-PC lol..

[OmeletteAuFromage]

(Original post by jo d)
I meant why should confident people care if the "shy" need comforting? As said, we should just throw them onto the curb.

Are you purposely being an absolute idiot? What the world doesn't need is not shy people but absolute sh*theads like you.

[jo d]

(Original post by buildalegohouse)
All this crap about the fact that shy people should be left with the curb is utter rubbish. To say that a shy person isn't equal to someone is outgoing is, to me, and to most other people, disgusting.
Like I said, people just need to accept that everyone is different. You can't simply force someone who is outgoing to shrink into themselves and avoid situations because they're otherwise inconvenient. You can't force a shy person to come out of thier shell with a click of the fingers. It doesn't work like that, and that's what a lot of people fail to realise. Introverts can be neglected by the rest of society, in a lot of cases, shy people are happy not to be the centre of attention. I can't understand why people won't accept that. They don't need the ignorant comments, or your sympathy. Leave them be.

lol... they stand out, and frankly are useless in interacting with. we don't need them?

[hannahchan]

(Original post by silverbolt)
your logic is eskewed. Severely. and no basis in proof or reality for that matter.

Nope not in the slighting. Im consistantly thinking your a prick for a start.

anyway - the people i have no time for are those as i said who cant do anything such as the person i quoted. But they as a rule are in very much a minority. and in any event i would never advocate cruelty or saying they are useless.

Theres a difference between cruelty and expecting someone to help themself when you have exhausted all other options yourself.

But maybe time is what is needed to help people - like myself, to actually come out. We don't need sympathy just someone who will listen or just accept us.

You don't like shy people.. okay. You prefer the tough love approach.. fine. But we aren't begging you for sympathy or telling you to be our friend.. we're just asking for some recognition.

which the OP has none of. People are different please respect that.

[RobertWhite]

You're simply an idiot. When will people fully realise the world is a diverse place and that's what makes it exciting? There will always be shy people, there will always be confident people, there will always be weird people, there will always be funny people. Are you suggesting we should have some kind of nancy 'crackdown' on shy people? Why look down on others for being different?