C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST

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  1. m1a1tank's Avatar
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by sophie0106)
    is there an unofficial mark scheme anywhere here?
    right at the start on the first page
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by otrivine)
    cause in the mark scheme for june 2011 mark scheme says f ( 1) 0 = with no sign or substitution*
    errors and for conclusion.
    ?
    It says f(-1) = 0 with no sign or substitution errors and for conclusion.

    Meaning the A1 will be awarded if the substitution is correct and if a conclusion is present, the M1 will be awarded for just the substitution. You will receive 1 mark for that question.
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    (Original post by otrivine)
    even if you say =0?
    yes im sure that you need to say 'therefore f(1) = 0' or something like that.


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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by Joshmeid)
    It says f(-1) = 0 with no sign or substitution errors and for conclusion.

    Meaning the A1 will be awarded if the substitution is correct and if a conclusion is present, the M1 will be awarded for just the substitution. You will receive 1 mark for that question.
    even if i said = 0 ?yes cause i did sub ok then i showed that = 0
    for example i did F(-2)=whatever the eq and sub = 0
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    (Original post by Joshmeid)
    Did you get all the 5 correct solutions? If your method is clearly written down such as:

    x = \frac {\cos^{ -1 }{\left(\frac{1}{5}\right)}}{2} = 39.2°(1dp)

    Then you should be awarded the marks.
    Yes i did get 5 solutions correct. My method was written like this. I just divided it straight away without giving 2x values
    Last edited by Putch1; 25-05-2012 at 11:28.
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    omg easiest paper every yet i made so many stupid mistakes :mad:
    for the trig one (some how) i managed to get tan2x=5 and i worked out some answers from that... does anyone think ill get any marks for that? or will it just be a big fat zero marks?
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    Do you think it matters for the differentiation question if i put the answer as 54.16 with recurring symbol? Cause thats still exact isn't it?

    Also, on the integration question - i got the right answer using a different method where you subract y1 from y2 and then integrate. Its a method in the textbook and gets you the right answer. Do you think i will still get all 7 marks?

    Thanks!
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    Hey, I genuinely found this paper easy, required that you learnt how to do everything that could come up. On question 8) I think I wrote down the Surface Area as: 2pix^2+4pixh, however I still got the correct answers (2.12). Also, for the trig equations question if I got to the point where you switch tanx to sinx/cosx but did not get any further right would that get 1 mark? thanks if any one can reply
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
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    4 or 5 out of 7, method and accuracy marks lost, expect 5, 4 if the mark scheme is strict.
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by Spellstheend)
    For the trig question I missed 180 but got the rest, will I get 4/5?

    Then in the sums proof I did it all correct but used 'S' instead of 'Sn' how many marks would that lose me?
    I missed 180 too I think we lose 1 mark
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
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    Hey, I genuinely found this paper easy, required that you learnt how to do everything that could come up. On question 8) I think I wrote down the Surface Area as: 2pix^2+4pixh, however I still got the correct answers (2.12). Also, for the trig equations question if I got to the point where you switch tanx to sinx/cosx but did not get any further right would that get 1 mark? thanks if any one can reply
    8. b) It's a show that, you haven't shown it so you will lose 2 marks as you haven't shown the answer and you didn't substitute 'h' from part a.

    6. a) You may get one mark as you used a trig identity although you only completed the first step and the method mark may be awarded for the whole working.
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by Brainstormer)
    Do you think it matters for the differentiation question if i put the answer as 54.16 with recurring symbol? Cause thats still exact isn't it?

    Also, on the integration question - i got the right answer using a different method where you subract y1 from y2 and then integrate. Its a method in the textbook and gets you the right answer. Do you think i will still get all 7 marks?

    Thanks!
    Differentiation: No, that will be fine.

    Integration: Yes you will.
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
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    Yes i did get 5 solutions correct. My method was written like this. I just divided it straight away without giving 2x values
    Interesting method, full marks as you've clearly shown how you got all the solutions, as the question asked.
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    (Original post by Joshmeid)
    Interesting method, full marks as you've clearly shown how you got all the solutions, as the question asked.
    Thank you. =]


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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by Brainstormer)
    Do you think it matters for the differentiation question if i put the answer as 54.16 with recurring symbol? Cause thats still exact isn't it?

    Also, on the integration question - i got the right answer using a different method where you subract y1 from y2 and then integrate. Its a method in the textbook and gets you the right answer. Do you think i will still get all 7 marks?

    Thanks!
    About the integration one, yes you will definitely get the marks.

    For the differentiation one, i'm not 100% sure, but as long as it is equivalent I can't see why they'd mark you wrong. You may lose accuracy mark?
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by Hamburglar)
    Guys, on question 6 part b, where you have to prove the trig equation:

    I understand that Tan x = Sin x / Cos x.

    However, in my working I didn't actually showed this step, and instead multiplied both sides by Cos X. I jumped to the second step basically.

    Will I lose any marks for this? Very annoying if I do, because otherwise I got full marks.
    Can someone answer this please?
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by Polo_0)
    omg easiest paper every yet i made so many stupid mistakes :mad:
    for the trig one (some how) i managed to get tan2x=5 and i worked out some answers from that... does anyone think ill get any marks for that? or will it just be a big fat zero marks?
    Unfortunately it will probably be 0 marks seeing as you won't get any correct solutions and the correct form was provided as a 'show that' in part a for which you could easily find solutions from.
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
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    About the integration one, yes you will definitely get the marks.

    For the differentiation one, i'm not 100% sure, but as long as it is equivalent I can't see why they'd mark you wrong. You may lose accuracy mark?
    for trig if you get the 2 values of cos=1/5 will you get 3 marks cause i think 2 marks is sinx=0 cause is more easier?
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by Hamburglar)
    Guys, on question 6 part b, where you have to prove the trig equation:

    I understand that Tan x = Sin x / Cos x.

    However, in my working I didn't actually showed this step, and instead multiplied both sides by Cos X. I jumped to the second step basically.

    Will I lose any marks for this? Very annoying if I do, because otherwise I got full marks.
    You may lose a mark as you haven't clearly shown the trig identity (Tan x = Sin x / Cos x), although you multiplied through by cos x which suggests you do know the identity and have used it. This one depends on the examiners mood really..
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    Re: C2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    Damn, I made a lot of mistakes out of tiredness :/

    On the logs question I just "separated" the bracketed log out, turned. 2 into 3^2 and solved a pretty nasty but incorrect quadratic..

    For the circle question I used the cosine rule to calculate the perimeter of the segment not the sector.

    For the long division of the cubic I divided fine, but then ignored the 2x^2 and factorised it as if it was 1

    On the trig, although I wrote we needed to include the values for Sin2x = 0 I left them out..

    :/ any rough estimates on the marks I'd lose?
    Last edited by Metigue; 25-05-2012 at 11:08.
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