M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST

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  1. tiny hobbit's Avatar
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by und)
    Yes, except for the fact that you've missed out the very important bit afterwards that defines the angle to the horizontal at which the impulse acts.
    You really don't get the directions in this question, do you?

    The whole diagram is in a horizontal plane. The angle of 90 + alpha is the angle between the horizontal impulse and the original horizontal direction of motion.
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by tiny hobbit)
    You really don't get the directions in this question, do you?

    The whole diagram is in a horizontal plane. The angle of 90 + alpha is the angle between the horizontal impulse and the original horizontal direction of motion.
    I've just read the question again and you're right. In that case the correct answer would be 'in a direction making an angle of 90 degrees to the initial direction of motion', but how do you define whether it goes 'up' or 'down'?
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
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    Wasn't sure that everyone else would understand what you meant so I just made it more clear, and wanted to tell people that I don't see any reason to do the more complex method of moments.
    Oh okay good luck with any other exams if you have any
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    I thought the paper was fairly easy... but I struggled for some reason.. mainly with the last question. I sat and stared and tried for 30 minutes, before realising what I was meant to do with about 2 minutes left. So that's 20% (raw marks) down the drain already...

    Fingers crossed that those grade boundary predictions will prove accurate :/
    Wasn't happy with the way the exam went at all though
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    to anyone who saw my post forgive my ignorance. the trailer is going up the slope and stopping not going down and stopping! give me strength.
    Last edited by mathz; 10-06-2012 at 15:03.
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    There's a fault on the .pdf of the qs and model answers - I can't open it.
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    I'm sorry to bring up an old thread, but on the second part of the moments one, if I did the working completely wrong, but got the direction as vertically upwards, would I still get 1/4?
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    I'm sorry to bring up an old thread, but on the second part of the moments one, if I did the working completely wrong, but got the direction as vertically upwards, would I still get 1/4?
    You'll know on Tuesday when the mark schemes are published. I assume that your calculation resulted in an upwards component?
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by tiny hobbit)
    You'll know on Tuesday when the mark schemes are published. I assume that your calculation resulted in an upwards component?
    Are they being published this coming tuesday, or a tuesday in a few weeks time? And yeah, it resulted in an upwards component. But given that I understood the question correctly, it could have only been vertically upwards or vertically downwards.
    Last edited by brittanna; 15-07-2012 at 17:58.
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
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    You'll know on Tuesday when the mark schemes are published. I assume that your calculation resulted in an upwards component?
    Will the mark scheme for AEA also be published?
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
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    Are they being published this coming tuesday, or a tuesday in a few weeks time? And yeah, it resulted in an upwards component. But given that I understood the question correctly, it could have only been vertically upwards or vertically downwards.
    This Tuesday, but probably on secure download.

    Yes, just up or down, so the answer depended on the sign of your component.
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
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    Will the mark scheme for AEA also be published?
    I believe so. I'm waiting to check my answers.
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by brittanna)
    I'm sorry to bring up an old thread, but on the second part of the moments one, if I did the working completely wrong, but got the direction as vertically upwards, would I still get 1/4?
    The mark for the direction is an A mark, which means you have to have got the method mark for the calculation in order to get it.
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
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    I've just read the question again and you're right. In that case the correct answer would be 'in a direction making an angle of 90 degrees to the initial direction of motion', but how do you define whether it goes 'up' or 'down'?
    As I expected, all sorts of descriptions get the mark. The official answer is "perpendicular to the original direction" but they also accept “vertically”, “North”, j direction, “up”
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by tiny hobbit)
    As I expected, all sorts of descriptions get the mark. The official answer is "perpendicular to the original direction" but they also accept “vertically”, “North”, j direction, “up”
    Could you post the entire mark scheme?
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
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    Could you post the entire mark scheme?
    All here:
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=2059016
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    It seems that the thread you made has been closed. Luckily, a user on another student forum (it may even be you) uploaded them. They can be found here:
    http://www.studentforums.biz/pastpap...%28all-gce%29/
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
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    It seems that the thread you made has been closed. Luckily, a user on another student forum (it may even be you) uploaded them. They can be found here:
    http://www.studentforums.biz/pastpap...%28all-gce%29/
    Not my thread, I merely pointed someone to it.

    As a teacher, I find it a pain that the mark schemes of the most recent papers are freely available on the web. What is the point of giving mock exams?
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by tiny hobbit)
    Not my thread, I merely pointed someone to it.

    As a teacher, I find it a pain that the mark schemes of the most recent papers are freely available on the web. What is the point of giving mock exams?
    My school either sets its own questions or uses questions from old textbooks for end of unit tests, and then for revision they let us do and mark our own papers, trusting us not to cheat ourselves. It seems to work...
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    Re: M2 May 2012 Edexcel - Post Exam Thread - Paper and Solutions in the FIRST POST
    (Original post by tiny hobbit)
    Not my thread, I merely pointed someone to it.

    As a teacher, I find it a pain that the mark schemes of the most recent papers are freely available on the web. What is the point of giving mock exams?
    As a student, I can tell you that a student's first priority isn't "I'll see if I can do all the past papers!" Certainly that was the case in my class since we'd end up with weeks to go practically all of them.
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