AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread

Physics exam discussion - share revision tips in preparation for GCSE, A Level and other physics exams and discuss how they went afterwards.

This thread is sponsored by:
Announcements Posted on
Important: please read these guidelines before posting about exams on The Student Room 28-04-2013
Sign in to Reply
  1. timlewis101's Avatar
    • Junior Member
    • Posts: 25
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    Hey . Wondering if anyone could help with a question. 'For a proton of Kinetic energy 5.0MeV show that its speed id 3.1x10^7ms^-1'

    Now I figured I could just use eV=1/2mv^2 for this, therefore 5.0x10^6=1/2x(1.67x10^-27)xv^2
    Therefore v=[(2x5.0x10^6)/(1.67x10^-27)]^1/2

    This obviously doesn't give the correct answer. Is ev=1/2mv^2 not applicable here??

    Thanks!

    Just to add. I thought that the proton my experience relativistic issues as 3.1x10^7 is a little over 10% the speed of light. But they don't use relativity in the answer.
    Last edited by timlewis101; 08-06-2012 at 20:31.
  2. Onee-chan's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 322
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    Just did the specimen and it was quite hard! How did you guys find it compared to the June 11 paper?
  3. handsome7654's Avatar
    • Benevolent Member
    • Posts: 740
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    (Original post by timlewis101)
    Hey . Wondering if anyone could help with a question. 'For a proton of Kinetic energy 5.0MeV show that its speed id 3.1x10^7ms^-1'

    Now I figured I could just use eV=1/2mv^2 for this, therefore 5.0x10^6=1/2x(1.67x10^-27)xv^2
    Therefore v=[(2x5.0x10^6)/(1.67x10^-27)]^1/2

    This obviously doesn't give the correct answer. Is ev=1/2mv^2 not applicable here??

    Thanks!

    Just to add. I thought that the proton my experience relativistic issues as 3.1x10^7 is a little over 10% the speed of light. But they don't use relativity in the answer.
    E = 0.5mv^2, where E is always in joules. So you have to convert the 5Mev to J by multiplying it by 10^6 and 1.6 x 10^-19. Then you should get the right answer.

    Plus relativity must be ignored in the question or else the speed won't be more than c
  4. number23's Avatar
    • Benevolent Member
    • Posts: 733
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    What papers are there available for this unit? Just June 10 and June 11? thnx
  5. timlewis101's Avatar
    • Junior Member
    • Posts: 25
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    (Original post by handsome7654)
    E = 0.5mv^2, where E is always in joules. So you have to convert the 5Mev to J by multiplying it by 10^6 and 1.6 x 10^-19. Then you should get the right answer.

    Plus relativity must be ignored in the question or else the speed won't be more than c
    Thanks for the reply. In the case of an electron being accelerated through a p.d we can use the equation eV=1/2mv^2 , so surely the units for eV is the charge on an electron (e) times the accelerating voltage (V) thus meaning the units are eV. Its just annoying I cant get my head round why you can use eV=1/2mv^2 and at other times you have to use E=1/2mv^2
  6. number23's Avatar
    • Benevolent Member
    • Posts: 733
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    (Original post by timlewis101)
    Thanks for the reply. In the case of an electron being accelerated through a p.d we can use the equation eV=1/2mv^2 , so surely the units for eV is the charge on an electron (e) times the accelerating voltage (V) thus meaning the units are eV. Its just annoying I cant get my head round why you can use eV=1/2mv^2 and at other times you have to use E=1/2mv^2
    you use eV when your dealing with voltages, and very high speed particles
  7. vedderfan94's Avatar
    • Overlord in Training
    • Location: UK
    • Posts: 2,528
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    Need around 30 UMS in this exam to get the A for my offer so I'm not too worried, but I hope to get the A* overall. Astrophysics is the most difficult topic I reckon, hoping we get a nice 6 marker in each paper

    I've still not started doing past papers :/
    Last edited by vedderfan94; 09-06-2012 at 22:10.
  8. vedderfan94's Avatar
    • Overlord in Training
    • Location: UK
    • Posts: 2,528
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    Also, if anyone's interested, below are the links (too big to attach on here) to some past paper question booklets that my teacher sent me. These are questions on each topic from pretty much all old spec papers I think. The vast majority are relevant to the current specification. Mark schemes and examiner's reports for all the questions are at the end of each booklet, so for those who have done all current spec papers these should keep you busy:

    Astrophysics - http://www.4shared.com/office/cEKLrU...rophysics.html
    Nuclear Power - http://www.4shared.com/office/Jt6GUJ...ear_Power.html
    Radioactivity - http://www.4shared.com/office/OEA1YR...lear_Stab.html
    Thermal Physics - http://www.4shared.com/office/6cnLBK...l_Physics.html

    Click the blue 'Download Now' button. Let me know if you have any problems downloading them.
    Last edited by vedderfan94; 09-06-2012 at 22:36.
  9. R1Charles's Avatar
    • New Member
    • Posts: 21
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    (Original post by Onee-chan)
    Just did the specimen and it was quite hard! How did you guys find it compared to the June 11 paper?
    I found the Specimen Section A quite tough, the Applied Physics Specimen is relatively straight forward though.

    As a rule specimen papers tend to be harder than actual papers I've found.
  10. ASaunders's Avatar
    • Junior Member
    • Posts: 54
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    Anyone got a link to the specimen paper? Cannot find it.
  11. handsome7654's Avatar
    • Benevolent Member
    • Posts: 740
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    (Original post by timlewis101)
    Thanks for the reply. In the case of an electron being accelerated through a p.d we can use the equation eV=1/2mv^2 , so surely the units for eV is the charge on an electron (e) times the accelerating voltage (V) thus meaning the units are eV. Its just annoying I cant get my head round why you can use eV=1/2mv^2 and at other times you have to use E=1/2mv^2
    I think the equation for kinetic energy that a particle with charge Q gains when it is accelerated through a p.d of V volts is QV. So we can equate QV = 0.5mv^2

    the Q can be replaced with symbol e if its an electron as e = charge of electron which is 1.6 x 10^-19
    So eV = 0.5mv^2 where it is e (charger on electron) * volts so it will be 1.6x 10^-19 times the volts.
  12. beelz's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 343
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    How do you derive one ideal gas equation from the other two:

    If you know pressure is inversely proportional to volume then P = c/V
    and volume is proportional to temperature so V = kT
    then you can sub V = kT into P = c/V and you get
    P = c/kT which says that pressure is inversely proportional to temperature but this is wrong as pressure is actually proportional to temperature.
    What am I doing wrong?
  13. therapist_1's Avatar
    • Respected Member
    • Posts: 209
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    Nuclear and Medical Physics Notes from another post : http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...4#post38026614

    Good luck
  14. desijut's Avatar
    • Peer Of The TSR Realm
    • Posts: 1,578
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    A lot of people doinig astrophysics, im doing turning points.

    Havent covered it yet but Thermal/Nuclear physics seems quite nice, im guessing the optional topics is where the **** comes, and the synoptic parts. (Wave-particle duality, etc) but i havent done any papers, only questions so it may be very different when i do papers
  15. desijut's Avatar
    • Peer Of The TSR Realm
    • Posts: 1,578
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    (Original post by beelz)
    How do you derive one ideal gas equation from the other two:

    If you know pressure is inversely proportional to volume then P = c/V
    and volume is proportional to temperature so V = kT
    then you can sub V = kT into P = c/V and you get
    P = c/kT which says that pressure is inversely proportional to temperature but this is wrong as pressure is actually proportional to temperature.
    What am I doing wrong?
    We know:

    Boyle's Law - pV=k_1
    Charles' Law - V=k_2T
    Pressure Law - p=k_3T

    Multiply them all together

    i.e
    pV \times V \times p = k_1 \times k_2T \times k_3T



 so (pV)^2 = k_1k_2k_3T^2 



Let k_1k_2k_3 = c



so (pV)^2 = cT^2 



Square\ rooting\ gives



pV=c^\frac{1}{2}T 



and c^\frac{1}{2}\ is\ clearly\ a\ constant
    Last edited by desijut; 11-06-2012 at 17:22.
  16. albus's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 327
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    What do you think the 6 mark questions will be on for Nuclear & Thermal and Astrophysics.
    For Astrophysics, I think it may be on CCDs or stars in a binary system.
  17. TheRenaissanceMan's Avatar
    • Full Member
    • Location: England
    • Posts: 140
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    (Original post by vedderfan94)
    Also, if anyone's interested, below are the links (too big to attach on here) to some past paper question booklets that my teacher sent me. These are questions on each topic from pretty much all old spec papers I think. The vast majority are relevant to the current specification. Mark schemes and examiner's reports for all the questions are at the end of each booklet, so for those who have done all current spec papers these should keep you busy:

    Astrophysics - http://www.4shared.com/office/cEKLrU...rophysics.html
    Nuclear Power - http://www.4shared.com/office/Jt6GUJ...ear_Power.html
    Radioactivity - http://www.4shared.com/office/OEA1YR...lear_Stab.html
    Thermal Physics - http://www.4shared.com/office/6cnLBK...l_Physics.html

    Click the blue 'Download Now' button. Let me know if you have any problems downloading them.
    You might have possibly made my life, gonna have to create an account to download these bad boys
  18. DonWorryJockIsHere's Avatar
    • Adored and Respected Member
    • Posts: 451
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    For turning points, do we have to know how Huygens explained refraction and reflection?
  19. desijut's Avatar
    • Peer Of The TSR Realm
    • Posts: 1,578
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    (Original post by DonWorryJockIsHere)
    For turning points, do we have to know how Huygens explained refraction and reflection?
    I dont think so, i think we have to know that it explains refraction and reflection but not the nuts and bolts of it...
  20. Crystal_Heart's Avatar
    • Junior Member
    Re: AQA Physics A - PHYA5 (18/06/12) - Exam thread
    Heyyy,
    Been revising and I'm getting really muddled by special relativity in the Turning Points option. Like picking which one is t or t0 and l or l0. And which frame of reference you're in.
    Just wondering if anyone could put it simply, or has any notes, that are less confusing that the textbook! :/
    Any help would be reallyyy appreciated. Thanks.
Sign in to Reply
Share this discussion:  
Article updates
Moderators

We have a brilliant team of more than 60 volunteers looking after discussions on The Student Room, helping to make it a fun, safe and useful place to hang out.

Reputation gems:
The Reputation gems seen here indicate how well reputed the user is, red gem indicate negative reputation and green indicates a good rep.
Post rating score:
These scores show if a post has been positively or negatively rated by our members.