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  1. Ggdf's Avatar
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    I'm a bit confused about genes
    I'm just wondering: if a protein has a quaternary structure, are all the polypeptide chains that it consists of coded for by a single gene? All of my AS bio textbooks define a gene as the code for a polypeptide. However, a protein such as haemoglobin consists of more than one polypeptide chain. Would I be wrong to say in an exam that a gene codes for a protein rather than a single polypeptide?

    Thank you
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    Re: I'm a bit confused about genes
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene

    curtsy of Wikipedia
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    Re: I'm a bit confused about genes
    Technically yes, but I'm not sure if they would penalise it. 2 genes code for haemoglobin, and are both adjacent to each other on DNA.
    Last edited by dmccririck; 15-05-2012 at 22:23.
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    Re: I'm a bit confused about genes
    (Original post by Ggdf)
    I'm just wondering: if a protein has a quaternary structure, are all the polypeptide chains that it consists of coded for by a single gene? All of my AS bio textbooks define a gene as the code for a polypeptide. However, a protein such as haemoglobin consists of more than one polypeptide chain. Would I be wrong to say in an exam that a gene codes for a protein rather than a single polypeptide?

    Thank you
    At A level you can get away with saying either....I think
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    Re: I'm a bit confused about genes
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    At A level you can get away with saying either....I think
    I asked my teacher (who's also the head of biology at my school) about this exact question, and she e-mailed AQA for clarification - the reply was, that if you define a gene as 'A length of DNA that codes for a polypeptide', you'll get the mark, however, if you define a gene as 'A length of DNA that codes for one polypeptide', you won't get the mark. :lolwut:

    Personally, I would interpret 'a' and 'one' as one and the same thing, but AQA apparently don't... :wtf:
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    Re: I'm a bit confused about genes
    (Original post by thegodofgod)
    I asked my teacher (who's also the head of biology at my school) about this exact question, and she e-mailed AQA for clarification - the reply was, that if you define a gene as 'A length of DNA that codes for a polypeptide', you'll get the mark, however, if you define a gene as 'A length of DNA that codes for one polypeptide', you won't get the mark. :lolwut:

    Personally, I would interpret 'a' and 'one' as one and the same thing, but AQA apparently don't... :wtf:
    AQA are talking rubbish... obviously their opinion matters, since they're the ones writing the mark scheme, but that doesn't make any sense, and would be wrong even if it were... (Besides which, a gene can code for several polypeptides on the basis of alternative splicing!)
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    Re: I'm a bit confused about genes
    (Original post by thegodofgod)
    I asked my teacher (who's also the head of biology at my school) about this exact question, and she e-mailed AQA for clarification - the reply was, that if you define a gene as 'A length of DNA that codes for a polypeptide', you'll get the mark, however, if you define a gene as 'A length of DNA that codes for one polypeptide', you won't get the mark. :lolwut:

    Personally, I would interpret 'a' and 'one' as one and the same thing, but AQA apparently don't... :wtf:
    :unimpressed: WTF, last time I checked a and one were practically interchangeable, that's ridiculous. I guess it's a good thing that I never say one and always say a....it's even better that I don't do AQA (unless OCR are that cruel too, which tbh they probably are)
    Last edited by The Illuminati; 15-05-2012 at 21:28.
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    Re: I'm a bit confused about genes
    Levi's are the best.
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    Re: I'm a bit confused about genes
    (Original post by Blackburn_Allen)
    Levi's are the best.
    hahaha.
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    Re: I'm a bit confused about genes
    (Original post by Cirsium)
    AQA are talking rubbish...
    :yy:

    (Original post by The Illuminati)
    :unimpressed: WTF, last time I checked a and one were practically interchangeable, that's ridiculous. I guess it's a good think that I never say one and always say a....it's even better that I don't do AQA (unless OCR are that cruel too, which tbh they probably are)
    Don't worry - no exam board is as bad as AQA... :moon:

    (Original post by Blackburn_Allen)
    Levi's are the best.
    Shame that DNA helicase / polymerase don't work on them - can't replicate the genes and make a fortune :ahee:
    Last edited by thegodofgod; 15-05-2012 at 21:22.
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    Re: I'm a bit confused about genes
    (Original post by dmccririck)
    Technically yes, but I'm not sure if they would penalise it. 4 genes code for haemoglobin, and are all adjacent to each other on DNA.
    Really? I thought that haemoglobin had 2 identical alpha subunits and 2 identical beta subunits? Is it not a waste of coding region to have 4 genes next to each other?
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    Re: I'm a bit confused about genes
    (Original post by qiaoyu.he)
    Really? I thought that haemoglobin had 2 identical alpha subunits and 2 identical beta subunits? Is it not a waste of coding region to have 4 genes next to each other?
    Sorry! Yes you're right, I meant 2 genes code for it!
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