Will Labour bring down tuition fees?
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Will Labour bring down tuition fees?Ed Miliband, Dennis Skinner and other Labour MPs complain about the rise in tuition fees, deeming them as "wrong". They tweet about using your vote wisely, saying that Tories don't wan't the best for this country. Therefore, does this mean if they do gain power, they'd reduce fees back to £3/4k? I can't imagine they would, I think they'll disagree to gain votes, but if they ever did gain power they'd never actually go about changing them back. For example, they used to be free (I think), rivalling parties complained about the rise up to 3k, but it never got changed back to free. This was posted from The Student Room's iPhone/iPad App
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees!What would they do about the students that already did their course for 9k a year? Nothing this is why nobody should ever vote for them.(Original post by multiplexing-gamer)
Ed Miliband, Dennis Skinner and other Labour MPs complain about the rise in tuition fees, deeming them as "wrong". They tweet about using your vote wisely, saying that Tories don't wan't the best for this country. Therefore, does this mean if they do gain power, they'd reduce fees back to £3/4k? I can't imagine they would, I think they'll disagree to gain votes, but if they ever did gain power they'd never actually go about changing them back. For example, they used to be free (I think), rivalling parties complained about the rise up to 3k, but it never got changed back to free.
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees?I wouldn't have thought so, bearing in mind that they introduced them in the first place after clearly stating in their election manifesto (1997?) 'we will not introduce top-up fees' and then promptly introduced them. Also, look at the Lib Dems who are now hated by students due to their well publicised failure to lower or remove tuition fees. Until the government can sort out a system in which the universities can provide quality tuition, with government subsidies to ensure the UK has a skilled population in the future I think tuition fees will continue to rise.
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees!Meh, you've sort of left yourself in a bit of a political pickle. A labourite would argue that it was the Tories who put the fees up, and thus, nobody should ever vote for them.(Original post by internetguru)
What would they do about the students that already did their course for 9k a year? Nothing this is why nobody should ever vote for them.
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees?I don't understand why students dislike him so much (Clegg). Yes, he didn't reduce the fees to £0 like he said, but that wasn't possible. He was in a coalition, he didn't have full power. How could he have persuaded the Tories to reduce the fees to £0 when they're for a privatised Britain and have the majority vote? Clegg's vote was quite small compared to Cameron's and it's obvious he couldn't have the overpowering option over the most popular party at the time.(Original post by beanstalkgirl_24)
I wouldn't have thought so, bearing in mind that they introduced them in the first place after clearly stating in their election manifesto (1997?) 'we will not introduce top-up fees' and then promptly introduced them. Also, look at the Lib Dems who are now hated by students due to their well publicised failure to lower or remove tuition fees. Until the government can sort out a system in which the universities can provide quality tuition, with government subsidies to ensure the UK has a skilled population in the future I think tuition fees will continue to rise. -
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees?Fair enough, Cameron has more of a say in things, but surely a fairer compromise would have been something like an increase to £5000, rather than an almost 3-fold increase!(Original post by multiplexing-gamer)
I don't understand why students dislike him so much (Clegg). Yes, he didn't reduce the fees to £0 like he said, but that wasn't possible. He was in a coalition, he didn't have full power. How could he have persuaded the Tories to reduce the fees to £0 when they're for a privatised Britain and have the majority vote? Clegg's vote was quite small compared to Cameron's and it's obvious he couldn't have the overpowering option over the most popular party at the time.
Edit: On topic, no - they'll put it in their manifesto, that they'll 'try' to reduce the tuition fees, but they most likely won't.Last edited by thegodofgod; 15-05-2012 at 20:59. -
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees?Labour are very quick to criticise the outcome of the report they ordered, whose recommendations the government implemented, but when pressed, they categorically refuse to back out the changes if they came to power.
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees?David Cameron said Nick Clegg is "stopping [him] becoming a real Tory", maybe Cameron would have wanted to increase the fees like in America (20-25k) but Clegg's liberal views capped them to 9k(Original post by thegodofgod)
Fair enough, Cameron has more of a say in things, but surely a fairer compromise would have been something like an increase to £5000, rather than an almost 3-fold increase! -
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees?Eh? Wasn't it Labour who introduced tuition fees? What makes you so confident they would abolish them?(Original post by Quady)
Yeah they'd abolish them.
Stupid Torys bring in fees then top up fees then increasing them again to £9k, disgusting... -
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees?I think you'll find it would have been more like what was proposed in the Tory manifesto...(Original post by multiplexing-gamer)
David Cameron said Nick Clegg is "stopping [him] becoming a real Tory", maybe Cameron would have wanted to increase the fees like in America (20-25k) but Clegg's liberal views capped them to 9k
Which pretty sucks for me.
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees?Because they commissioned the Browne review which was due to report back that they should be scrapped until Cameron came in and rewrote it.(Original post by antimilitarist)
Eh? Wasn't it Labour who introduced tuition fees? What makes you so confident they would abolish them? -
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees!Too late that doesn't change my fees so no point in voting for them ever.(Original post by Hippysnake)
Meh, you've sort of left yourself in a bit of a political pickle. A labourite would argue that it was the Tories who put the fees up, and thus, nobody should ever vote for them.
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees?Well in the US its 20 25k as it's not state owned, and I think that's the way Cameron would want to go, commercialising Uni's. But I see what you're saying...(Original post by Quady)
I think you'll find it would have been more like what was proposed in the Tory manifesto...
Which pretty sucks for me.
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees?That may be possible, but I doubt it, as it would otherwise have been made public a long time ago by the Lib Dems, when they noticed that they were beginning to lose supporters...(Original post by multiplexing-gamer)
David Cameron said Nick Clegg is "stopping [him] becoming a real Tory", maybe Cameron would have wanted to increase the fees like in America (20-25k) but Clegg's liberal views capped them to 9k
Only my opinion though
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Re: Will Labour bring down tuition fees?They should probably put that in their policy statement then:
http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-pol...ng-ukip-policy
Last updated July 2007.
Who knows might win them some votes.
