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  1. steve2005's Avatar
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    Re: Decimals to fractions
    (Original post by raheem94)
    I will do it this way,
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     \displaystyle 1.346346346 \ldots  = 1 + \frac{346}{1000} + \frac{346}{1000000} + \cdots \\ = 1 + 346 \left( \frac1{1000} + \frac1{1000000} + \cdots \right)

    Using the sum to infinity formula,
     \displaystyle 1 + 346 \left( \frac{\frac{1}{1000}}{1 - \frac1{1000}} \right) = 1 + 346 \left( \frac1{999} \right) = 1+ \frac{346}{999} = \frac{1345}{999}

    Sorry, but your method lacks elegance.
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  2. raheem94's Avatar
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    Re: Decimals to fractions
    (Original post by steve2005)
    Sorry, but your method lacks elegance.
    Fair enough.
  3. Implication's Avatar
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    Re: Decimals to fractions
    (Original post by steve2005)
    0.333333333 times 3 is 0.999999999999 . What justification do you have for saying 0.9999999999..... equals 1

    The method I used allows for the decimal part to cancel.
    (Original post by steve2005)
    A question for you.

    Change 1.346346346..... into a fraction.
    EDIT: I understand what you mean - assuming that 0.999...=1 is basically assuming how to write 0.999... as a fraction, and what we're trying to do is represent decimals as fractions :facepalm: So I guess it would be an inappropriate assumption!



    Makes sense. I'd just assume that 0.999...=1 or that 3.999...=4 because I know that it is true- I wouldn't usually justify rigourously every single assumption I make. I guess that does only work with simple ones though

    How would you solve that one (elegantly )?
    x=1.\overline{346}
    1000x=1346.\overline{346}
    999x=1345
    x=\frac{1345}{999} \ ?
    Last edited by Implication; 17-05-2012 at 10:01.
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    Re: Decimals to fractions
    (Original post by Implication)
    EDIT: I understand what you mean - assuming that 0.999...=1 is basically assuming how to write 0.999... as a fraction, and what we're trying to do is represent decimals as fractions :facepalm: So I guess it would be an inappropriate assumption!
    Well if you're going to say 0.9r = 1 then prove it using x = 0.9r then 10x = 9.9r you might as well use that method to begin with

    And yes that is how you would solve it.
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    Re: Decimals to fractions
    (Original post by raheem94)
    I will do it this way,
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     \displaystyle 1.346346346 \ldots  = 1 + \frac{346}{1000} + \frac{346}{1000000} + \cdots \\ = 1 + 346 \left( \frac1{1000} + \frac1{1000000} + \cdots \right)

    Using the sum to infinity formula,
     \displaystyle 1 + 346 \left( \frac{\frac{1}{1000}}{1 - \frac1{1000}} \right) = 1 + 346 \left( \frac1{999} \right) = 1+ \frac{346}{999} = \frac{1345}{999}

    While this isn't really as neat/easy as the method you used before (10x = ..) it was an interesting way to go about it I liked that haha.
  6. raheem94's Avatar
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    Re: Decimals to fractions
    (Original post by hassi94)
    While this isn't really as neat/easy as the method you used before (10x = ..) it was an interesting way to go about it I liked that haha.
    If you are given this question, which method will you use?

    Do you have a different method to solve it?
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    Re: Decimals to fractions
    (Original post by raheem94)
    If you are given this question, which method will you use?

    Do you have a different method to solve it?
    I'd have done what Steve2005 did (as I was taught it at GCSE and it seems the most sensible way round it and the method that sticks in my head).
  8. steve2005's Avatar
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    Re: Decimals to fractions
    (Original post by Implication)
    EDIT: I understand what you mean - assuming that 0.999...=1 is basically assuming how to write 0.999... as a fraction, and what we're trying to do is represent decimals as fractions :facepalm: So I guess it would be an inappropriate assumption!



    Makes sense. I'd just assume that 0.999...=1 or that 3.999...=4 because I know that it is true- I wouldn't usually justify rigourously every single assumption I make. I guess that does only work with simple ones though

    How would you solve that one (elegantly )?
    x=1.\overline{346}
    1000x=1346.\overline{346}
    999x=1345
    x=\frac{1345}{999} \ ?

    Yes, that's what I would do.

    I think it's neat .
  9. raheem94's Avatar
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    Re: Decimals to fractions
    (Original post by steve2005)
    Yes, that's what I would do.

    I think it's neat .
    Do you know about any other method, other than mine and yours, to solve this question?
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