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  1. Data's Avatar
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    Re: Exam errors AGAIN...
    (Original post by mangoh)
    if your mark goes up, you get your money back

    if your mark stays the same/goes down you don't get your money back
    Please don't give wrong advice because you haven't bother to read the rules, which are here http://www.jcq.org.uk/attachments/pu...et%2012-13.pdf

    where it says on p4
    3.3 For clerical checks and post-results reviews of marking, the EAR fee will not be charged if subject grades are amended.
  2. Data's Avatar
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    (Original post by mangoh)
    you are still wrong :l

    your subject grade can change

    i.e. if I asked for a remark for business unit 1 and went from 30 raw marks to 31

    It could mean I can go from a grade B in A-level Business to an A

    The grade for business unit 1 may not have changed but I will still get my money back because the subject grade has changed.

    so I think you will find you're wrong. My overall grade has changed but my unit 1 hasn't.

    So therefore as I said before you still get your money back even if your unit grade doesn't change.

    It's OVERALL grade that also matters.
    If you had read an earlier post of mine of this thread you will find that I explained that.

    If you're cashed-in it is the overall grade that has to change, if you're not cashed-in then it is the unit grade. (You get one or the other, not both chances for a refund). A pure mark change, despite what you said earlier, does not results in a refund.
    Last edited by Data; 20-05-2012 at 16:50.
  3. hrbrox's Avatar
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    Re: Exam errors AGAIN...
    Well ****. I'm not looking forward to August, I'm only at AS but I want to do physics/maths at uni and I'm on OCR for both subjects. Also in my psychology Jan exam I got a middle D after getting As in all my homework's and mock exam. My teacher sent off for a remark and I went up to high C, almost a B. Not sure exactly how many marks I gained but it must have been a fair few. To be fair I didn't revise much so it didn't surprise me that I did worse than my homework's but I really wasn't expecting a D.
  4. Black keys's Avatar
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    Re: Exam errors AGAIN...
    (Original post by mangoh)
    you are still wrong :l

    your subject grade can change

    i.e. if I asked for a remark for business unit 1 and went from 30 raw marks to 31

    It could mean I can go from a grade B in A-level Business to an A

    The grade for business unit 1 may not have changed but I will still get my money back because the subject grade has changed.

    so I think you will find you're wrong. My overall grade has changed but my unit 1 hasn't.

    So therefore as I said before you still get your money back even if your unit grade doesn't change.

    It's OVERALL grade that also matters.
    If the unit 1 remark goes up not enough to change the unit grade but changes the overall grade then a refund is given. What we are saying is that if the remark does not change a GRADE whether it’s the unit grade or overall grade a refund won’t be given. Your original post was confusing as you said any remark that goes up you get your money back which isn’t strictly true. It could go up but if it doesn’t change the unit or overall grade then you wouldn’t get a refund.
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    Re: Exam errors AGAIN...
    This makes me so angry! Me and my friends have had many issues with incorrect marking. At GCSE a girl in my year got a D (she's an A* student) and after a remark it went up to an A*! Another guy got an AS biology test remarked and went from a C to an A! It makes me wish I had got my AS Chem 1 remarked. They marked it as an E, and my teacher said the school couldn't afford to get it remarked for me so I'd have to pay the £40 myself. Me and my family didn't have the money, so I opted for a resit which was only £10. After doing the paper again in my own time after receiving my result, and with no extra revision, I got a high C, so the person marking it must have made some serious mistakes! And yes, I know that the money would have been refunded if the grade had gone up, but that's no use when you don't physically have the money to pay for it in the first place.

    I think the worst thing about it is the cost. My school refuses to pay for remarks or resits unless they are for GCSE Maths and English, and only then if you're below a C. It's an insane amount of money to have to pay! Plus, the deadline to pay for the remark is so close after receiving the results that you don't even have the time to try to get the money together.
    Last edited by 03hope03; 20-05-2012 at 17:45.
  6. Black keys's Avatar
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    Re: Exam errors AGAIN...
    (Original post by Black keys)
    If the unit 1 remark goes up not enough to change the unit grade but changes the overall grade then a refund is given. What we are saying is that if the remark does not change a GRADE whether it’s the unit grade or overall grade a refund won’t be given. Your original post was confusing as you said any remark that goes up you get your money back which isn’t strictly true. It could go up but if it doesn’t change the unit or overall grade then you wouldn’t get a refund.
    This only applies if you have not cashed-in your unit 1.
  7. Data's Avatar
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    (Original post by 03hope03)
    Plus, the deadline to pay for the remark is so close after receiving the results that you don't even have the time to try to get the money together.
    It's 4-5 weeks - always 20 September for the summer results (A level and GCSE), similar sort of time scale for other exam seasons.
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    Re: Exam errors AGAIN...
    (Original post by 03hope03)
    This makes me so angry! Me and my friends have had many issues with incorrect marking. At GCSE a girl in my year got a D (she's an A* student) and after a remark it went up to an A*! Another guy got an AS biology test remarked and went from a C to an A! It makes me wish I had got my AS Chem 1 remarked. They marked it as an E, and my teacher said the school couldn't afford to get it remarked for me so I'd have to pay the £40 myself. Me and my family didn't have the money, so I opted for a resit which was only £10. After doing the paper again in my own time after receiving my result, and with no extra revision, I got a high C, so the person marking it must have made some serious mistakes! And yes, I know that the money would have been refunded if the grade had gone up, but that's no use when you don't physically have the money to pay for it in the first place.

    I think the worst thing about it is the cost. My school refuses to pay for remarks or resits unless they are for GCSE Maths and English, and only then if you're below a C. It's an insane amount of money to have to pay! Plus, the deadline to pay for the remark is so close after receiving the results that you don't even have the time to try to get the money together.
    This is exactly my problem with remarks: it's so expensive, and you barely have the time to pay before the deadline's come and gone. When I was doing my GCSE's, my school was exactly the same. When I went to collect my GCSE results I was told not to bother to get a remark for French, as it was too much money and 'you got above a C anyway; what's the big deal with a C?' :rolleyes: They also refused to question our coursework marks, despite the moderaters having moved down the coursework grades of Geography, French and Art. This year, for my AS Level results day, my family have saved up money so as to get remarks. It's way too expensive.

    I wouldn't mind nearly so much, though, as long as everyone could get a photocopy of their paper to go over with their teacher. I think it's £15 for a photocopy? For a photocopy.
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    Re: Exam errors AGAIN...
    (Original post by Data)
    It's 4-5 weeks - always 20 September for the summer results (A level and GCSE), similar sort of time scale for other exam seasons.
    Not at my school. They say they need 7-10 days to process the money and the request and do paperwork (they're just being difficult) so for summer exams we have to have paid for them by the 10th September, but the teachers won't even discuss with you whether you need a remark or a resit until school starts again, which is usually around the 3rd-7th! Also, for our January modules we had to have paid for the resits within two days of getting our results otherwise we weren't allowed to resit.
    Last edited by 03hope03; 20-05-2012 at 19:14.
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    Re: Exam errors AGAIN...
    AQA is the way forward
  11. Data's Avatar
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    Re: Exam errors AGAIN...
    (Original post by 03hope03)
    Not at my school. They say they need 7-10 to process the money and the request and do paperwork (they're just being difficult) so for summer exams we have to have paid for them by the 10th September, but the teachers won't even discuss with you whether you need a remark or a resit until school starts again! Also, for our January modules we had to have paid for the resits within two days of getting our results otherwise we weren't allowed to resit.
    Sorry to hear that, they sound rubbish. How on earth can it take 10 days to take a cheque and make a couple of clicks on a website? My school takes re-marks right up to 20 September. In March the re-sit deadline was 19 March (so 10 days after the results came out) but you could withdraw and get your money back up 21 April if you went for a re-mark and then didn't need the re-sit.
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    Re: Exam errors AGAIN...
    "Georgia Totvanian is in her final year at Leeds university – but her life there would never have materialised if she had trusted the examiner who marked one of her final year history A-level papers. She was initially given a 'U', but it was moved to a 'B' after a re-mark."



    omg I'm getting all my papers remarked like now
  13. jackf1337's Avatar
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    I do OCR A level music and my AS coursework was initially given 19/90 (U grade). It was re-marked and came out at a low B. I was really upset when I picked up my results that day. I hope they don't cock it up this summer.
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    (Original post by Ra Ra Ra)
    I wouldn't mind nearly so much, though, as long as everyone could get a photocopy of their paper to go over with their teacher. I think it's £15 for a photocopy? For a photocopy.

    Photocopies are more expensive than the original copy, 'cos if you get the original they can't remark it ('cos you may have made changes or something).

    Really annoyed me when I found out our school had opted to pay for our scripts back in EngLang if we did badly, but decided to go for the originals so we were unable to get them remarked.. Looking back over my paper after we got them back it was at least a B (originally marked a D).. -_-
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    I did my GCSE RS with OCR and knew something was up when I got a D in Philosophy, I knew Philosophy much better than Ethics, and got an A in Ethics. Should have probably got a remark and gone with my gut instinct. Didn't help that I was tight on cash either.
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    Last year two of mine had errors, though when I did it I didn't think they were errors I just thought I was being dumb and didn't know how to do them.
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    My gcse maths was also marked down i should have got A but was given B. I did 3 maths exams in may my school sent all my maths papers to get remark came back with 3 marks away from A*.... this is with AQA

    i felt even bad knowing i was 3 marks away from A* then knowing my grade has been put up to A from B
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    This is still happening? Just how long has this been going on for?!

    Years ago when I was in sixth-form about 5-6 people doing history were marked U, had a remark and went up by a few grades. One girl I remember went from a U to an A!

    I was suspicious of the marking in my English exams too but we tended to do retakes instead rather than pay. I did a retake on one English AS module and went from C to a high A. During A2 I was predicted high B/low A and got D in one module, which regrettably I didn't challenge at the time. In the other A2 modules I achieved high B and very high A grades. However that D grade brought down my average to a B, but luckily I still got the grades I needed for Uni.

    Most of us didn't really challenge things at the time though. We had trust in the system and were put off having remarks because of the costs. I was speaking to our english teacher and he wasn't shocked at all. He said that they were giving people too many scripts to mark and they were rushing through them.
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    Fuuudge. I could've got into Manchester.
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    Re: Exam errors AGAIN...
    (Original post by thegodofgod)
    I know that this is only one example, not representative of the whole population, and the exception rather than the rule, but one of my mates took an OCR History exam in the Jan 12 exam season, and his module grade went up from a low C to a low A* after a remark.

    Luckily for him, he's an A/A* student, so he knew that he had to get that script remarked, but it's completely unfair on those who don't know what they actually should have achieved!
    The exact same thing happened to me! I knew that something was wrong straight away as I am predicted A/A* and I got a C, so anyway it went up! This has happened to a few people I know now and it's just so unfair.
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