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    Linear Algebra: Jordan Normal Form issue.
    I have a matrix A = \begin{pmatrix} 3 & 0 & 8 \\3 & -1 & 6 \\-2 & 0 & -5 \end{pmatrix}
    And I need to find the Jordan Normal Matrix and the transformation matrix, such that J=P^{-1}AP
    I've worked out the characteristic polynomial to be -(t+1)^3
    And my eigenspace for eigen value -1, to span:
    \begin{Bmatrix}\begin{pmatrix} -2 \\0 \\1 \end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix} 0 \\1 \\0 \end{pmatrix}\end{Bmatrix} which I have named v1 and v2.

    When I try to find v3 from either (A+1I)v3=v1 or (A+1I)v3=v2, I end up with a contradiction, something like 0=3.. etc.

    The answers state that P=\begin{pmatrix} 4 & -1 & -2 \\3 & 0 & 0 \\-2 & 0 & 1 \end{pmatrix} but that doesn't even include my v2..?

    I've had the same problem with an identical question today.. can someone please tell me what's going wrong?
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    Re: Linear Algebra: Jordan Normal Form issue.
    (Original post by daretodream-x)
    When I try to find v3 from either (A+1I)v3=v1 or (A+1I)v3=v2, I end up with a contradiction, something like 0=3.. etc.
    Revise your notes. You have misunderstood the process.

    What you want to do here is to complete v_1,v_2 to a basis (i.e. choose v_3 to be any vector not in the span of v_1,v_2) and then define v'_2 = (A+I)v_3. It then follows that v_1,v'_2,v_3 is the basis you require.
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    Re: Linear Algebra: Jordan Normal Form issue.
    (Original post by Jake22)
    Revise your notes. You have misunderstood the process.

    What you want to do here is to complete v_1,v_2 to a basis (i.e. choose v_3 to be any vector not in the span of v_1,v_2) and then define v'_2 = (A+I)v_3. It then follows that v_1,v'_2,v_3 is the basis you require.
    Sorry, I'm not following..?
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    Re: Linear Algebra: Jordan Normal Form issue.
    (Original post by daretodream-x)
    Sorry, I'm not following..?
    Your eigenspace is a 2-dimensional subspace of your 3-dimensional space. You chose a basis v_1,v_2. It follows that any other vector v_3 that is not in that two dimensional subspace (any vector linearly independent from both of them) completes v_1,v_2 to a basis for the whole of your space i.e. is such that v_1,v_2,v_3 is a basis of your 3-dimensional space.

    Once you have done that - you just define a new vector v'_2 by setting v'_2 = (A+I)v_3 and then v_1,v'_2,v_3 should be a basis for which your matrix is in Jordan Normal Form.
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    Re: Linear Algebra: Jordan Normal Form issue.
    Incidentally, I think the -1 in the top row of the matrix P should be a 1.

    Then, if you follow the method I told you - they pick v_3=\begin{pmatrix}1 \\ 0 \\ 0\end{pmatrix} and set v'_2=(A+I)v_3. The required (ordered) basis is then (v'_2,v_3,v_1).
    Last edited by Jake22; 17-05-2012 at 21:52.
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