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Warsi: Pakistani men see white girls as 'fair game'

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Original post by effofex
This is actually quite difficult to enforce in a workplace environment - especially in cities such as London where it is quite likely that white females and males/females of Pakistani nationality work for the same organization, often in the same department.

One idea could be that if a white female and non-white male/female wish to meet each other outside the workplace environment their interaction is filmed or that a police officer is made to chaperone the two individuals.


This post did make me smile in what is a rather depressing thread.
Original post by effofex
But they still have the human right not to be sexually molested.

For example, if I go outside shirtless (since it is quite warm in Amsterdam at the moment) I have the right to not be violated/molested by predatory females.


I actually asked on here why, no one ever asks if a man was shirtless and showing his toned pecs when he was raped, and if so is he somehow to blame.

I was negged, of course, and didnt get an explanation why.

The sexism on TSR is highly apparent imo, coincidentally alongside a significant muslim population.
Original post by soyasauce
I think any guy, no matter what religion/colour they are would fine any girl who wears slutty, tight, short, revealing clothes as a fair game.


We're talking about children here. There is no circumstance in which children are fair game for rape.
Reply 123
Original post by StressedOut1
I think it is a particularly pakistani cultural thing.Pakistani muslims in the uk have been targeting sikh and hindu girls as well as white girls, but the former were targeted more to do with luring/conversion purposes as well as rape. I think this comes down to the fact that sikh/hindu girls have more 'freedom' as a whole than their muslim girl-friends, and again the whole 'easy target' thing seems to come into it.

Wait a minute... Are you telling me rape is part of my culture? Shows me how ignorant and stupid you really are.
Get out of this thread
Original post by Agenda Suicide
You really come across as controversial sometimes. Why do you never own up to a problem and be honest? Those men saw vulnerability and leaped on them. You're saying that these girls deserve it?

You disgust me. You truly do. I have no care about your strong religious belief, but there is a time when I'm sure even a God wouldn't advocate this stuff.


Get real man.


Not sure how people misunderstand so easily.

I never condoned the rape, I simply defended the great British justice system (based on logical conclusions), against the criticisms it got for the sentence the judge gave these men.

That's all. People also seem to only concentrate on one thing, when there's many problems that requires attention. I was simply pointing those out.
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Reply 125
Original post by Florrick
No worries.

Nouman Ali Khan refers to Surah An-Nur, 32-33.

Qur'an 24:33 (extract)
And do not, in order to gain some of the fleeting pleasures of this worldly life, coerce your [slave] maidens into whoredom if they happen to be desirous of marriage; and if anyone should coerce them, then, verily, after they have been compelled [to submit in their helplessness], God will be much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace!


It includes prohibition of giving your slave to other men and it refers to any form of coercing/forcing a female slave into (extra-marital) sex.


As far as the verses I read, they talk about making a contract and giving of wealth to those slaves, yet not to prositute them :cool: An interesting idea, such would sound like marriage. And then, I cannot help but notice that the verse talks only of prostituion, not rape.
I don't want to live on this island anymore.
Original post by Apa
Finally. However, looking at the sentences of the group of 9 Rochdale men -the ringleader got 19 years - is ridiculous. The young girls who were abused will suffer for the rest of their lives, so should ALL of the 9 men who took part. They should be jailed for life.


We've been saying that fo donkey's years for even th most henious of murders but as you know by now life never means life.
Britain used to be nice and then they oppened the borders to third world countries since then loads of riots, terrorist attacks and now this well done Labour.
Reply 129
Original post by Steevee
As far as the verses I read, they talk about making a contract and giving of wealth to those slaves, yet not to prositute them :cool: An interesting idea, such would sound like marriage. And then, I cannot help but notice that the verse talks only of prostituion, not rape.


It refers to both rape and prostitution. The above verse reiterates the prohibition of concubinage by explicitly describing it as "whoredom" (bigha)* if they desire protection against (extra-marital) sex/unchastity (tahassun)*.


*Arabic.
The question is, why are they so materialistic that they care solely about what others think? Its quite bewildering, I mean in the west young people tend to really care what others think of them, their looks etc, are wary of their social circle, but most grow out of this.

It never leads to western or other folk killing their own children for the sake of 'keeping up appearances', which happens all to often with pakistanis and various other south asians.
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Reply 131
Original post by BACTSR2
There have to be like 3 or 4 male, muslim witnesses. So in other words, no one whatsoever would ever get prosecuted for rape ever again if we adopted shariah law.


No it doesn't. Four witnesses are required if you accuse someone of zina (adultery and fornication) not rape.

The evidence for rape is upto the discretion of the courts and civil law codes (ta`zîr in Arabic) which can include, circumstantial evidence, any number of male or female witnesses, DNA evidence, and so forth. The punishment can range from a protracted prison sentence, or even the death penalty.

Rapists hanged, crucified and beheaded in Saudi Arabia:

http://bikyamasr.com/52674/saudi-arabia-executes-man-who-raped-and-killed-female-relative/
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/News/tabid/178/nid/19886/language/en-US/Default.aspx
http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article143200.ece
http://archive.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=131052&d=12&m=1&y=2010
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/paedophile-rapist-to-be-beheaded-and-crucified-in-saudi-arabia-1814475.html
http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/two-saudi-rapists-beheaded-1.1159710
http://www.emirates247.com/crime/region/housemaid-serial-killer-to-be-crucified-in-saudi-arabia-2012-03-01-1.445940
http://digitaljournal.com/article/314447
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=rapistbeheaded saudi&source=web&cd=16&ved=0CEUQFjAFOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftribune.com.pk%2Fstory%2F66225%2Ftwo-pakistanis-beheaded-in-saudi-for-rape%2F&ei=DeWZT-ylBamk4AT0prH0DQ&usg=AFQjCNFJ2-fX38icApzyI3n6F2hK9vEkog&cad=rja
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,514458,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8450674
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia#List_of_crimes

Is that enough evidence?
Reply 132
they were guys ok, view them as guys who preyed, they took the opportunity.

il say it in words you may not like, if a hot girl is sitting in front of you naked legs wide open inviting you to **** her will you not feel the urge to shag her? not saying you will or wont but unless you are homo, as a natural feeling you will have the urge to shag, its up to you if you can control or not.

Now if we see these pedos in the following light, they took the opportunity.

I condemn what they did and the behaviour is not tolerable if this happened in a practising Muslim country they would hanged. lets not blame a race Rochdale is full of Asians anyway.
Original post by Perseveranze
Lol warsi.

Labour MP and chairman of the Commons Home Affairs Select Committee Keith Vaz has said it is wrong to focus on a particular racial or religious group.

"There is no excuse for this kind of criminality, whoever is involved in it but I don't think it is a particular group of people, I don't think it's a particular race or religion,"



Imo the judge probably sentenced it keeping a few things in mind. I mean, the girls probably consented at first, after it got out of hand, that's when the drugs/alcohol/money etc. wasn't worth it. At least now they won't be going into a strangers car again.


You are an idiot. What on Earth makes you think the girls 'probably consented at first'? :lolwut: Because they're white girls?
Original post by zubz91
they were guys ok, view them as guys who preyed, they took the opportunity.

il say it in words you may not like, if a hot girl is sitting in front of you naked legs wide open inviting you to **** her will you not feel the urge to shag her? not saying you will or wont but unless you are homo, as a natural feeling you will have the urge to shag, its up to you if you can control or not.

Now if we see these pedos in the following light, they took the opportunity.

I condemn what they did and the behaviour is not tolerable if this happened in a practising Muslim country they would hanged. lets not blame a race Rochdale is full of Asians anyway.


A hot girl sitting in front of you with her legs wide open/vag on show isn't even remotely comparible to the raping and abuse on young girls.
Original post by Florrick
No it doesn't. Four witnesses are required if you accuse someone of zina (adultery and fornication) not rape.

The evidence for rape is upto the discretion of the courts and civil law codes (ta`zîr in Arabic) which can include, circumstantial evidence, any number of male or female witnesses, DNA evidence, and so forth. The punishment can range from a protracted prison sentence, or even the death penalty.

Rapists hanged, crucified and beheaded in Saudi Arabia:

http://bikyamasr.com/52674/saudi-arabia-executes-man-who-raped-and-killed-female-relative/
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/News/tabid/178/nid/19886/language/en-US/Default.aspx
http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article143200.ece
http://archive.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=131052&d=12&m=1&y=2010
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/paedophile-rapist-to-be-beheaded-and-crucified-in-saudi-arabia-1814475.html
http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/two-saudi-rapists-beheaded-1.1159710
http://www.emirates247.com/crime/region/housemaid-serial-killer-to-be-crucified-in-saudi-arabia-2012-03-01-1.445940
http://digitaljournal.com/article/314447
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=rapistbeheaded saudi&source=web&cd=16&ved=0CEUQFjAFOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftribune.com.pk%2Fstory%2F66225%2Ftwo-pakistanis-beheaded-in-saudi-for-rape%2F&ei=DeWZT-ylBamk4AT0prH0DQ&usg=AFQjCNFJ2-fX38icApzyI3n6F2hK9vEkog&cad=rja
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,514458,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8450674
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia#List_of_crimes

Is that enough evidence?


But we are constantly being told Saudi Arabia isnt an Islamic state?

When the boot fits of course....
Original post by sarahthegemini
You are an idiot. What on Earth makes you think the girls 'probably consented at first'? :lolwut: Because they're white girls?


Probably, his racism is apparent and he has a very stereotypical view of white girls. Just because a white woman can wear and do what she likes doesnt mean she is a slut. This is obvious to anyone with half a brain.
Reply 137
Original post by badcheesecrispy
But we are constantly being told Saudi Arabia isnt an Islamic state?

When the boot fits of course....



In complete shariah, there is no concept of Muslim countries, it's a state itself with one ruling head. All these majority-Muslim countries should be unified with one leader in accordance to Islam to form an Islamic state.

Spoiler




This is not the case today due to competing superpowers and Muslim in-fighting.
However, the only country where most and not all Sharia, is observed would be Saudi Arabia.
Reply 138
Original post by fosterwho
leave them alone bro, they just want da tight pussy.


So what, Asian pussy aint tight enough or black pussy? Or any other kind of pussy, just gotta be white :angry:
:lol:
Reply 139
Original post by Pharmac
So what, Asian pussy aint tight enough or black pussy? Or any other kind of pussy, just gotta be white :angry:
:lol:

no they just want da young tight pussy. old enough to count, old enough to mount :biggrin:

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