[InspectorSophie]

I have no idea whether of not this is offencive, as I am coming at this from a place of complete ignorance. I just need to find out for an essay. Therefore I am learning and may ask offensively stupid questions.

In the 60s and 70s, in the USA, when black nationalism was at its height. Especially after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. and during the LA riots...

Was black nationalism a majority view in the black community? or has it always been a small minority view?

[eggaforbreakfast]

How is this a racist question?

[Mr.Zen]

(Original post by InspectorSophie)
I have no idea whether of not this is offencive, as I am coming at this from a place of complete ignorance. I just need to find out for an essay. Therefore I am learning and may ask offensively stupid questions.

In the 60s and 70s, in the USA, when black nationalism was at its height. Especially after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. and during the LA riots...

Was black nationalism a majority view in the black community? or has it always been a small minority view?

I don't think it was the majority, but it wasn't a minority view either, as it was quite popular and gained a lot of support.

[dgeorge]

(Original post by InspectorSophie)
I have no idea whether of not this is offencive, as I am coming at this from a place of complete ignorance. I just need to find out for an essay. Therefore I am learning and may ask offensively stupid questions.

In the 60s and 70s, in the USA, when black nationalism was at its height. Especially after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. and during the LA riots...

Was black nationalism a majority view in the black community? or has it always been a small minority view?

Not offensive. And what do you mean by "black nationalism" EXACTLY?

And the LA riots were in the 90's.....

[Dont Tread On Me]

(Original post by dgeorge)
Not offensive. And what do you mean by "black nationalism" EXACTLY?

And the LA riots were in the 90's.....

I think he means the creation of an African American majority country in the US, but i'm not sure.

[InspectorSophie]

(Original post by dgeorge)
Not offensive. And what do you mean by "black nationalism" EXACTLY?

And the LA riots were in the 90's.....

Sorry, I mean the race riots in NY, Philidelphia ect in 1964? to 1970-ish.
Oppsydoops.


I'm onto the LA riots now so my brain is getting them confused.

[Freier._.lance]

(Original post by Mr.Zen)
I don't think it was the majority, but it wasn't a minority view either, as it was quite popular and gained a lot of support.

So you're saying it was a precisely 50-50 split?

[ShocknAwe]

(Original post by InspectorSophie)
I have no idea whether of not this is offencive, as I am coming at this from a place of complete ignorance. I just need to find out for an essay. Therefore I am learning and may ask offensively stupid questions.

In the 60s and 70s, in the USA, when black nationalism was at its height. Especially after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. and during the LA riots...

Was black nationalism a majority view in the black community? or has it always been a small minority view?

Of course it's a majority view and it still is. Why else would 99.99% of the african american community have voted for Barack Obama. Because he's half black.

[Mr.Zen]

(Original post by Freier._.lance)
So you're saying it was a precisely 50-50 split?

No, it wasn't small enough to be the minority, but not big enough to be the vast majority.

[prog2djent]

Some people need to read the definition of racism over and over, a word so overused even Mr Racism is a recluse now.

[Madmachine]

How on earth is this question racist? I was expecting something along the lines of "do n****rs really like watermelon?"

[InspectorSophie]

(Original post by Madmachine)
How on earth is this question racist? I was expecting something along the lines of "do n****rs really like watermelon?"

Well being Jewish I would find it offensive if people said 'Do a majority of Jews hate Christians?'. You are making assumptions that we are isolationist and bigots.


Considering many leaders in the Black Nationalist movement have said things along the line that 'AIDs is a white conspiracy against black people'. They also supported violence as a means to get rights. I would thing lumping everyone in the same race into some sort of stereotype of them being 'potentially violent black segregationists coming up with conspiracies' could possibly be offensive in this day and age.

Black people may associate themselves with the philosophy of MLK Jr, which was non-violent and believed in integration as well as equality. Very different philosophies around the advancement of the African-american cause.

Before you all get at me, do you see where I'm coming from?
If its not its just me being cautious about what I'm saying, is there anything so wrong with that?

Just because it doesn't feed into the stereotype you are familiar with, doesn't mean it couldn't possibly be racist. IMO.

[willbee]

(Original post by InspectorSophie)
Well being Jewish I would find it offensive if people said 'Do a majority of Jews hate Christians?'. You are making assumptions that we are isolationist and bigots.


Considering many leaders in the Black Nationalist movement have said things along the line that 'AIDs is a white conspiracy against black people'. They also supported violence as a means to get rights. I would thing lumping everyone in the same race into some sort of stereotype of them being 'potentially violent black segregationists coming up with conspiracies' could possibly be offensive in this day and age.

Black people may associate themselves with the philosophy of MLK Jr, which was non-violent and believed in integration as well as equality. Very different philosophies around the advancement of the African-american cause.

Before you all get at me, do you see where I'm coming from?
If its not its just me being cautious about what I'm saying, is there anything so wrong with that?

Just because it doesn't feed into the stereotype you are familiar with, doesn't mean it couldn't possibly be racist. IMO.

The point was that he saw the title and expected a racist question. But the question isn't even remotely racist. There's nothing wrong with being cautious about what you're saying, it's just that the question wasn't racist and your comparison to the question "Do all Jews hate Christians?" isn't relevant because they original question wasn't a generalisation but a case of historical accuracy and debate.

In response to the original question, I'd say that Malcolm X and the like were quite popular but not a majority by any means. However the strongest argument to make is just to say that we can never know what was really going on in people's heads so we can only estimate. There would have probably been people who secretly supported Malcolm X but wouldn't openly do it because he was so radical. In the same sense that I know a lot of people who share the opinions of the BNP or UKIP but wouldn't express those opinions because they're not socially acceptable. In places where Martin Luther King jr was particularly prominent, supporting Malcolm X may have been frowned upon and vice versa.

Anyway, you probably know more about that last bit than me...

[nithpriya]

(Original post by Madmachine)
How on earth is this question racist? I was expecting something along the lines of "do n****rs really like watermelon?"

LMFAO nice

[Aj12]

(Original post by InspectorSophie)
I have no idea whether of not this is offencive, as I am coming at this from a place of complete ignorance. I just need to find out for an essay. Therefore I am learning and may ask offensively stupid questions.

In the 60s and 70s, in the USA, when black nationalism was at its height. Especially after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. and during the LA riots...

Was black nationalism a majority view in the black community? or has it always been a small minority view?

Difficult question things like the Black Power movement which was linked to Black nationalism and separatism meant different things to different people. Generally though in the late 60's most Black people favoured integration and equality rather than Black nationalist agendas. Least as far as I know, could be wrong.

Quite a few groups tried to work out at the time if black nationalism was dominant or not so have a look on google and you should be able to find quite a few polls on the subject. As well as this look at how much support groups like the Black Panthers had at the time for an indication.

[Bonged.]

(Original post by InspectorSophie)
Well being Jewish I would find it offensive if people said 'Do a majority of Jews hate Christians?'. You are making assumptions that we are isolationist and bigots.


Considering many leaders in the Black Nationalist movement have said things along the line that 'AIDs is a white conspiracy against black people'. They also supported violence as a means to get rights. I would thing lumping everyone in the same race into some sort of stereotype of them being 'potentially violent black segregationists coming up with conspiracies' could possibly be offensive in this day and age.

Black people may associate themselves with the philosophy of MLK Jr, which was non-violent and believed in integration as well as equality. Very different philosophies around the advancement of the African-american cause.

Before you all get at me, do you see where I'm coming from?
If its not its just me being cautious about what I'm saying, is there anything so wrong with that?

Just because it doesn't feed into the stereotype you are familiar with, doesn't mean it couldn't possibly be racist. IMO.

That makes you stupid. Sorry to be offensive. If someone asked me "do english people hate ...er french people?" I would say "well, yeah, some do obviously". People need to chill about stuff being "racist".

[InspectorSophie]

(Original post by Bonged.)
That makes you stupid. Sorry to be offensive. If someone asked me "do english people hate ...er french people?" I would say "well, yeah, some do obviously". People need to chill about stuff being "racist".

Wondering if equating all black people to Malcom X is racist..is stupid?

Also, I knew some people supported the black national party, I as just wondering if it was a Majority of people. I know some white people support the BNP, but by no means a majority of white people support the BNP.

Not only that, I myself am stupid for asking it?
I don't see why not knowing something and therefore asking about it makes me stupid.

[Bonged.]

(Original post by InspectorSophie)
Wondering if equating all black people to Malcom X is racist..is stupid?

Also, I knew some people supported the black national party, I as just wondering if it was a Majority of people. I know some white people support the BNP, but by no means a majority of white people support the BNP.

Not only that, I myself am stupid for asking it?
I don't see why not knowing something and therefore asking about it makes me stupid.

Nope. Obviously I meant saying this - "Well being Jewish I would find it offensive if people said 'Do a majority of Jews hate Christians?" - is stupid. I've highlighted the stupidest part for you. Your identity/background/whatever doesn't entitle you to take offence at questions.

So tired of people saying "well , as a (insert minority group) I find this offensive". Nothing could be more divisive. As an intelligent human being you should not take offence at questions.

[InspectorSophie]

(Original post by Bonged.)
Nope. Obviously I meant saying this - "Well being Jewish I would find it offensive if people said 'Do a majority of Jews hate Christians?" - is stupid. I've highlighted the stupidest part for you. Your identity/background/whatever doesn't entitle you to take offence at questions.

So tired of people saying "well , as a (insert minority group) I find this offensive". Nothing could be more divisive. As an intelligent human being you should not take offence at questions.

TL;DR.

[The Marshall]

Why do you think Black people assume this? After so many years of mis-treatment and trouble they have been getting from their white masters, neighbours and friends as an entire race, they are more than likely to assume racist opinions, the very opinions that their before masters would have thought.