C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREAD
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Re: C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREAD
okay, q.6:
a) complete the square:
(x-3)^2 -9 + (y+2)^2 -4 =12
(x-3)^2 + (y+2)^2 =25
centre at (3,-2)
radius is root25 = 5 (+ve value because it's a length)
b) P at (-1,1) and Q at (7,-5)
midpoint PQ should be (3,-2) if a diameter
midpoint= (7-1/2, -5-1/2) = (3,-2)
c) I'm not really sure how you'd do this. There's a right-angled triangle between RPQ and you can draw the whole thing onto a set of axes but although R is (0,y), I'm not sure how you'd find the y coordinate -
Re: C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREADFor the second question, the (ii):(Original post by jameshewitt)
All of these I consider to be relatively difficult questions and some I got stuck on, please answer these questions and show working.
Thank you everyone!
4sinx=3tanx
For this question you have to know the trigonometric identity that tanx is equal to sinx/cosx. So we substitute tanx for sinx/cosx, which transforms the equation into:
4sinx = 3(sinx/cosx)
We then multiply both sides by cosx:
4sinx(cosx) = 3 sinx
There is sinx on both sides so we can cancel them out so the equation becomes:
4cosx = 3
Then we use our calculator to find the value of x so this becomes:
x = 41.4 (1 decimal place)
Then I think there are various ways to do this next step, but I use a CAST graph. I could draw it out if you want me to, but I'm assuming you know what this is/know what to do as this stage.
So the answer is 41.4 and 318.6 degrees.
If you have any queries, quote me. -
Re: C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREADFor the third question, question 8 about logs:(Original post by jameshewitt)
All of these I consider to be relatively difficult questions and some I got stuck on, please answer these questions and show working.
Thank you everyone!
Part a:
You have to know the log rule:
logan = x is the same as ax = n
So if we apply this rule to log2y = -3 then this becomes:
2-3=y
Work out 2-3 and we get the value for y and hence the answer to this question.
The value of y = 0.125
Part b:
Firstly, I would multiply both sides by log2x to get rid of that fraction so the equation becomes:
log232 + log216 = (log2x)2
For this question you will have to know the log multiplication rule: logax + logay = logaxy
So the equation becomes:
log2(32*16) = (log2x)2
Simplifying it:
log2(512) = (log2x)2
We then square root both sides. You can find the square root of log2(512) on your calculator, which equals 3 and -3 so the equation becomes:
3 = log2x and -3 = log2x
We can then apply the rule from part a: logan = x is the same as ax = n
So the equation then becomes:
23 = x and 2-3 = x
And the final answer:
x = 8 and x = 1/8
Note that you can check if your answers are correct by substituting your answer back into the equation.Last edited by MrJames16; 20-05-2012 at 13:38. -
Re: C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREADThere are two answers to the 2nd part,(Original post by MrJames16)
For the third question, question 8 about logs:
Part a:
You have to know the log rule:
logan = x is the same as ax = n
So if we apply this rule to log2y = -3 then this becomes:
2-3=y
Work out 2-3 and we get the value for y and hence the answer to this question.
The value of y = 0.125
Part b:
Firstly, I would multiply both sides by log2x to get rid of that fraction so the equation becomes:
log232 + log216 = (log2x)2
For this question you will have to know the log multiplication rule: logax + logay = logaxy
So the equation becomes:
log2(32*16) = (log2x)2
Simplifying it:
log2(512) = (log2x)2
We then square root both sides. You can find the square root of log2(512) on your calculator, which equals 3 so the equation becomes:
3 = log2x
We can then apply the rule from part a: logan = x is the same as ax = n
So the equation then becomes:
23 = x
And the final answer:
x = 8
Note that you can check if your answers are correct by substituting your answer back into the equation.
I will do it in this way,



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Last edited by raheem94; 20-05-2012 at 13:19. -
Re: C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREAD(Original post by raheem94)
There are two answers to the 2nd part,
I will do it in this way,



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Damn, I always forget about the negative solution when square rooting lol. Thanks for that -
Re: C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREAD(Original post by jameshewitt)
All of these I consider to be relatively difficult questions and some I got stuck on, please answer these questions and show working.
Thank you everyone!For the last part, draw a diagram.(Original post by ohtasha)
okay, q.6:
a) complete the square:
(x-3)^2 -9 + (y+2)^2 -4 =12
(x-3)^2 + (y+2)^2 =25
centre at (3,-2)
radius is root25 = 5 (+ve value because it's a length)
b) P at (-1,1) and Q at (7,-5)
midpoint PQ should be (3,-2) if a diameter
midpoint= (7-1/2, -5-1/2) = (3,-2)
c) I'm not really sure how you'd do this. There's a right-angled triangle between RPQ and you can draw the whole thing onto a set of axes but although R is (0,y), I'm not sure how you'd find the y coordinate
Here is the diagram:


As it is a right angled triangle, so applying Pythagoras theorem gives,
Last edited by raheem94; 20-05-2012 at 13:44. -
Re: C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREADI didn't think to cancel sinx each side, thank you for your help!(Original post by MrJames16)
For the second question, the (ii):
4sinx=3tanx
For this question you have to know the trigonometric identity that tanx is equal to sinx/cosx. So we substitute tanx for sinx/cosx, which transforms the equation into:
4sinx = 3(sinx/cosx)
We then multiply both sides by cosx:
4sinx(cosx) = 3 sinx
There is sinx on both sides so we can cancel them out so the equation becomes:
4cosx = 3
Then we use our calculator to find the value of x so this becomes:
x = 41.4 (1 decimal place)
Then I think there are various ways to do this next step, but I use a CAST graph. I could draw it out if you want me to, but I'm assuming you know what this is/know what to do as this stage.
So the answer is 41.4 and 318.6 degrees.
If you have any queries, quote me. -
Re: C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREADdidn't think +/-3 just assumed +3 hence i got 1 value of x. Thank you again sir!(Original post by MrJames16)
For the third question, question 8 about logs:
Part a:
You have to know the log rule:
logan = x is the same as ax = n
So if we apply this rule to log2y = -3 then this becomes:
2-3=y
Work out 2-3 and we get the value for y and hence the answer to this question.
The value of y = 0.125
Part b:
Firstly, I would multiply both sides by log2x to get rid of that fraction so the equation becomes:
log232 + log216 = (log2x)2
For this question you will have to know the log multiplication rule: logax + logay = logaxy
So the equation becomes:
log2(32*16) = (log2x)2
Simplifying it:
log2(512) = (log2x)2
We then square root both sides. You can find the square root of log2(512) on your calculator, which equals 3 and -3 so the equation becomes:
3 = log2x and -3 = log2x
We can then apply the rule from part a: logan = x is the same as ax = n
So the equation then becomes:
23 = x and 2-3 = x
And the final answer:
x = 8 and x = 1/8
Note that you can check if your answers are correct by substituting your answer back into the equation. -
Re: C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREADpart (c) was the bit i couldn't do, "R is on the positive y axis" i thought this meant positive quadrant rather than literally on the axis but i understand now, thank you!(Original post by raheem94)
For the last part, draw a diagram.
Here is the diagram:


As it is a right angled triangle, so applying Pythagoras theorem gives,
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Re: C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREADAll makes sense now! Thank you, hopefully i'll remember to apply this on Thursday(Original post by raheem94)

We know the coordinates of P, Q and R.
Sub in P,

Sub in Q,

Sub in R,

(3) - (2) gives,

Sub 'a=2' in (1), you will get,
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Re: C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREADGood luck for the exam(Original post by jameshewitt)
All makes sense now! Thank you, hopefully i'll remember to apply this on Thursday
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Re: C2 24th May 2012 REVISION THREADHey, this is how I've done it and now seeing your method I'm not sure if mine is right. Can you check mine?(Original post by MrJames16)
For the second question, the (ii):
4sinx=3tanx
For this question you have to know the trigonometric identity that tanx is equal to sinx/cosx. So we substitute tanx for sinx/cosx, which transforms the equation into:
4sinx = 3(sinx/cosx)
We then multiply both sides by cosx:
4sinx(cosx) = 3 sinx
There is sinx on both sides so we can cancel them out so the equation becomes:
4cosx = 3
Then we use our calculator to find the value of x so this becomes:
x = 41.4 (1 decimal place)
Then I think there are various ways to do this next step, but I use a CAST graph. I could draw it out if you want me to, but I'm assuming you know what this is/know what to do as this stage.
So the answer is 41.4 and 318.6 degrees.
If you have any queries, quote me.
4sin(x) = 3tan(x) which is the same as:
4sin(x) = 3sin(x) / cos(x)
Multiply by cos(x) which gives: 4sin(x)cos(x) = 3sin(x)
Subtract the 3sin(x), this gives: 4sin(x)cos(x) - 3sin(x) = 0
Simplify by collecting the sin's together: sin(x)(4cos(x)-3) = 0
Now use CAST or the graph method to work it out so..
Sin(x) = 0 is 0 so the answers for this are 0 degrees and 180 degrees (its also 360, -360 and -180 but these are outside the range they ask for).
Then solve this part of the equation: 4cos(x)-3 = 0
Cos(x) = 3/4 is 41.4 degrees and the answers that fit the range are 41.4 and 318.6.
So all my answers are: 0, 41.4, 180 and 318.6.
I understand why you divided the sin(x) as that's what I used to do until I looked at my revision book. So does anyone know which is correct?Last edited by Chasingyou; 23-05-2012 at 18:25. -
Huh? But they're discussing questions from past papers(Original post by Bantersaurus Rexx)
Guys you can't discuss the exam yet!!!!!!!
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