[justmyopinions]

Hey
I'm on the hunt for a new camera or camcorder, and I'm really attracted to old-fashioned ones
However, I can't find many.
It can be either analog or digital, but I would prefer it if it used film. Also, my budget isn't large... I don't have much experience so sorry for not being more specific
Also, it would be good if the the camera was new, but made my a company that designs new cameras but in an old fashioned way. So fi you know any websites or companies please say!

[DanBrwn]

Something like a rangefinder? This kind of style?

[Madmachine]

F*****g hipster.

[katles]

(Original post by justmyopinions)
Hey
I'm on the hunt for a new camera or camcorder, and I'm really attracted to old-fashioned ones
However, I can't find many.
It can be either analog or digital, but I would prefer it if it used film. Also, my budget isn't large... I don't have much experience so sorry for not being more specific
Also, it would be good if the the camera was new, but made my a company that designs new cameras but in an old fashioned way. So fi you know any websites or companies please say!

Hey, just a heads up... I started my interest in film photography in a similar way to you, about three years ago. It's not easy, you can't expect to launch yourself into using film and expect perfect results like with digital photography. It takes time, effort, patience, and I generally see it as more expensive than using digital. That said, film does produce some beautiful and unique results, especially if you experiment in a dark room yourself.

I'd look on ebay for a camera or in a local charity shop. Also, there's plenty of information and resources on the internet to help you learn how to use film cameras. You may have heard of Lomography which has wide range of cameras, but always check on ebay for cheaper alternatives.

Also, there are hardly any modern companies these days that produce film cameras. The exception being would maybe be Leica and Fuji with their instant Polaroid-esque cameras, but apart from that, secondhand cameras are the way to go.

I have personally amassed quite the collection of film cameras, from a Holga to disposable cameras to film SLRs. Be careful... it's addictive collecting them.

I mainly use a Pentax ME super which you can easily find on ebay for less than £100. The Canon AE-1 also seems to be most popular amongst young people interested in film.

[theronkinator]

Can you not just use Instagram like all the other bellends?

[justmyopinions]

(Original post by Madmachine)
F*****g hipster.

no, I just don't like HD and stuff. And for your info I'm not a blogger, or have tumblr, or instagram, so I'm not a "hipster".
And so what, I'm not allowed to get stuff I like? Everything has been popular at one time or another. Are you gonna call all the directors who use colour film hipsters too?

[justmyopinions]

(Original post by theronkinator)
Can you not just use Instagram like all the other bellends?

no, I don't like instagram it's too commercialised and it's you can't develop films and get hard copies :s

[justmyopinions]

(Original post by katles)
Hey, just a heads up... I started my interest in film photography in a similar way to you, about three years ago. It's not easy, you can't expect to launch yourself into using film and expect perfect results like with digital photography. It takes time, effort, patience, and I generally see it as more expensive than using digital. That said, film does produce some beautiful and unique results, especially if you experiment in a dark room yourself.

I'd look on ebay for a camera or in a local charity shop. Also, there's plenty of information and resources on the internet to help you learn how to use film cameras. You may have heard of Lomography which has wide range of cameras, but always check on ebay for cheaper alternatives.

Also, there are hardly any modern companies these days that produce film cameras. The exception being would maybe be Leica and Fuji with their instant Polaroid-esque cameras, but apart from that, secondhand cameras are the way to go.

I have personally amassed quite the collection of film cameras, from a Holga to disposable cameras to film SLRs. Be careful... it's addictive collecting them.

I mainly use a Pentax ME super which you can easily find on ebay for less than £100. The Canon AE-1 also seems to be most popular amongst young people interested in film.

thanks perfect answer

[Madmachine]

(Original post by justmyopinions)
no, I don't like instagram it's too commercialised and it's you can't develop films and get hard copies :s

Yeah, instagram is too mainstream for you isn't it?

[katles]

(Original post by justmyopinions)
thanks perfect answer

No problem! Oh and I'd also encourage you to get a Flickr account. There are loads of good film communities on there where you can get help and tips. I also have an account on there -shameless plug-

[Madmachine]

(Original post by theronkinator)
Can you not just use Instagram like all the other bellends?

I lawl'ed

[TheSownRose]

(Original post by katles)
Hey, just a heads up... I started my interest in film photography in a similar way to you, about three years ago. It's not easy, you can't expect to launch yourself into using film and expect perfect results like with digital photography. It takes time, effort, patience, and I generally see it as more expensive than using digital. That said, film does produce some beautiful and unique results, especially if you experiment in a dark room yourself.

You can't expect to launch yourself into digital photography and get perfect results either. Both of them take time, effort and patience before you're any good at them.

[katles]

(Original post by TheSownRose)
You can't expect to launch yourself into digital photography and get perfect results either. Both of them take time, effort and patience before you're any good at them.

I guess I meant that improving in digital photography is a much faster process than film photography as you get instant results and through trial and error you can take about a hundred photos to capture the best image.

[Sir Fox]

(Original post by DanBrwn)
Something like a rangefinder? This kind of style?

Yep, OP, if you have like 5.500€ you don't need, get this one

[TheSownRose]

(Original post by katles)
I guess I meant that improving in digital photography is a much faster process than film photography as you get instant results and through trial and error you can take about a hundred photos to capture the best image.

I wouldn't say it is. Yes, you get 'instant' (well, you have to wait until you can download them) results, but you still need to take the time to look at them, analyse them, learn from them. You can take lots of photos and get the best image through trial error, but that's not learning photography IMO.

[Nuffles]

(Original post by justmyopinions)
no, I just don't like HD and stuff. And for your info I'm not a blogger, or have tumblr, or instagram, so I'm not a "hipster".
And so what, I'm not allowed to get stuff I like? Everything has been popular at one time or another. Are you gonna call all the directors who use colour film hipsters too?

Those are hardly the sole requirements of being a hipster It's not about whether you use colour film or an old camera, it's about how you view the image making process and what results you look for. If you use a plastic camera which you've paid £80 for, snap it at anything and everything with little-to-no-thought, and then take it to Jessops and get excited about light leaks and the fact that nothing is in focus then congrats - you're a hipster. You can, however, use an old camera to produce fantastic prints, especially if you get yourself involved in the photographic department at your college/uni and you can develop and print them yourself. At university I have access to medium and large format cameras that will make images on film, that when printed in the dark room on good quality paper, will blow digital out of the water in terms of tonal range and colour quality, and will give it a decent run for sharpness too.

Keep an eye on the used section here:
http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/

Film camera section here:
http://www.ffordes.com/

And used section here:
http://www.mifsuds.com/

[TheKieranC]

Any 2nd hand camera store or go buy some lomo's

[lukas1051]

Go to car boot sales, markets etc. you can always find loads of vintage crap and you can probably get a good deal with a but of haggling.

[HumorousGent.]

(Original post by katles)
I guess I meant that improving in digital photography is a much faster process than film photography as you get instant results and through trial and error you can take about a hundred photos to capture the best image.

Alternatively: using digital allows you to snap away without thinking, you can learn quicker using film because you think more about each shot as otherwise you're pissing away time/money.

Film is a decent way into photography as you needn't spend a few hundred quid on an entry level DSLR when you can pick up an older film one for pennies which will produce shots of equivalent/better quality. Of course you have processing costs but they're not going to bankrupt you unless you're snapping away like a mong on expensive film.

Dunno what sort of camera you're looking for OP. Probably best getting a 35mm rangefinder or SLR - plenty around, easy enough to use and film/processing is cheap. Something like a Canon A-1/AE-1/AE-1 Program/Olympus OM-# can be had for £50-ish in decent condition with a 50mm lens (and lots of other lenses available cheaply). You could even pick up some fully manual POS for a £5 and play around with it to get an idea of the basics of focus/exposure/etc. Go crezzy

[NB_ide]

OP - I have four vintage cameras for sale which may be to your tastes. Google for info:

1) OMO Cosmic Symbol
2) Olympus TRIP 35
3) Lubitel 166B
4) Yashica Mat 124G

PM me if you might be interested. Check eBay for guide prices, but very roughly we're talking about ~£15-30 for the first three and over £100 for the 4th.