[aftrglw]

Another film which seemed to have a half decent storyline to it was 'Babyface'. I watched it years ago with a bunch of mates, girls and boys. One of the boys stepdads had it and we all went round when his mum and stepdad were not in lol.

Lol, I was being facetious.

Not particularly; if you have a handle on the differing drives and desires of men and women you’ll know why there just isn’t the same potentiality for all but an extreme minority of women to start viewing men as sex objects

I think we were talking at cross purposes. I was talking about porn itself, not the effects of it. I do agree that some porn is horribly degrading to women, but I don't think it is endemic to porn as a concept. And I don't think just because some people can't control their use of something (such as alcohol) means that it shouldn't be available to the rest of us (obviously, you never said that, but it seems implied as a solution to the said dilemma).

Anyway, I don't think we're going to see eye to eye, as we seem to fundamentally disagree to the extent that porn objectifies women, and you seem to think it doesn't objectify men or at least causes women to see men as objects. Personally, I don't think it causes most men to see women as objects either... which is why most men can have healthy relationships with women and still watch porn and why sex counsellors often 'prescribe' porn to couples to reignite their sex life. That said, it can be unhealthy which is why I believe the OP's bf has a significant problem. However, I believe that he's the exception rather than the rule.

You seem to have totally ignored what I’ve said ("serves as to"), and are reading it as you would like to read it

You seem to be ignoring what I said. I said "it's a bit of a feminist sleight of hand", not that was precisely what you said. As for "serves as to", although you said "porn serves as to objectify women", it seems clear from the rest of your arguments that you believe it does. Unless you're trying to argue that it doesn't actually objectify women, it just results in most men objectifying women, by some mysterious causal process... which seems a bit absurd to me.

Anyway, this conversation is getting all too technical and nit-picky over details. Shall we stop?

[F Ellen]

Both myself and my boyfriend watch porn and sometimes watch it together.

[meenu89]

Yes he does.

[jellybean_]

(Original post by Foo.mp3)
Is that so? I'm quite anti porn in the sense that it serves as to objectify women and gives young lads some rather strange ideas..

I do tend to find that playing with girls' kitties makes them chuckle.. this is not the desired effect

Beware the groomer

Yeah,I mean I've read a lot about sex addiction being more common, and so one of the 'side affects' of this is that people are becoming addicted to porn. It sounds crazy but I find it really interesting. I agree with that though haha,it does give young lads some strange ideas indeed.

And for giving me a good giggle there

[Foo.mp3]

(Original post by jellybean_)
Yeah, I mean I've read a lot about sex addiction being more common, and so one of the 'side affects' of this is that people are becoming addicted to porn

Is that so.. well I must admit, it's all too easy to get into bad habits in that regard, especially if you aren't getting any

I mostly 'used' porn out of boredom in the past, and didn't really use it at all while I was with my ex mind

(Original post by jellybean_)
It sounds crazy but I find it really interesting

Yeah, having a morbid fixation with other peoples' sex addictions is probably something you should try to get help with dear

(Original post by jellybean_)
And for giving me a good giggle there

[Lizzeraptor]

I must say, personally I'm very anti-porn, but I'm not naive and I know that my partner previously used to watch it, however I expressed that it made me uncomfortable and he doesn't anymore.
I would be insulted if he did decide to watch porn, and in my eyes its as close to cheating as you can get. But thats just my personal opinion.

[Arturo Bandini]

(Original post by Lizzeraptor)
I'm not naive

(Original post by Lizzeraptor)
...he doesn't anymore..

Lol

[Sui-Kinxtar_kitty]

Yeh he does...

But so do I XD

[Lizzeraptor]

After a year and a half of being in a relationship I would hope he's telling the truth about this one...

[Frequency]

Is sex really that important to you?