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  1. member910132's Avatar
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    Extremely confused about this Basic algebra
     \frac{a}{2} \times \frac{b}{2}

    What is wrong with taking a half out as a factor and going  \frac12 (a \times b) = \frac{a}{2} \times \frac{b}{2}

    I know it's wrong, but I can't see exactly what is wrong with it, I would appreciate a detailed answer and not something like  \frac12 \times a \times \frac12 \times b = \frac{ab}{4}

    thnx
    Last edited by member910132; 21-05-2012 at 11:55.
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    Re: Extremely confused about this Basic algebra
    (Original post by member910132)
     \frac{a}{2} \times \frac{b}{2}

    What is wrong with taking a half out as a factor and going  \frac12 (a \times b)

    I know it's wrong, but I can't see exactly what is wrong with it, I would appreciate a detailed answer and not something like  \frac12 \times a \times \frac12 \times b = \frac{ab}{4}

    thnx
    You can't really get a better explanation than the one you wouldn't like to be given.

     \frac12 \times a \times \frac12 \times b = \frac{ab}{4} = \frac14 (ab) \neq \frac12 (ab)
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    Re: Extremely confused about this Basic algebra
    Well, you could prove it to yourselve geometrically if you let a and b be the sides of a rectangle. Calculate its area (ab), and then shink each length by a half and calculate the new area (0.5a*0.5b) - you'll find that the new area is percisely one quarter of the original area, and not one half of the original area.
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    Re: Extremely confused about this Basic algebra
    (Original post by oo00oo)
    Well, you could prove it to yourselve geometrically if you let a and b be the sides of a rectangle. Calculate its area (ab), and then shink each length by a half and calculate the new area (0.5a*0.5b) - you'll find that the new area is percisely one quarter of the original area, and not one half of the original area.
    Thnx, PRSOM !
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    Re: Extremely confused about this Basic algebra
    (Original post by member910132)
     \frac{a}{2} \times \frac{b}{2}

    What is wrong with taking a half out as a factor and going  \frac12 (a \times b) = \frac{a}{2} \times \frac{b}{2}
    You are just getting confused with sums and products, that is all.

    (i) \lambda a + \lambda b = \lambda (a+b) but

    (ii) \lambda a \times \lambda b = \lambda^2 ab.

    With \lambda a whole number, you demonstrate (i) by rearranging the left had side to give

    (a+\cdots+a) + (b+\cdots+b) = (a+b) + \cdots (a+b)

    where there are the same number of sums on each side.


    On the other hand (ii) would look like

    \lambda a \times \lambda b = (a+\cdots+a) \times (b+\cdots + b) = \begin{array}[c]   \mbox{}a(b+ \cdots + b) \\ + \\  \vdots \\ +  \\   a(b+\cdots + b) \end{array}  = \begin{array}[c]  \mbox{}ab + \cdots + ab  \\ + \\ \vdots \\ + \\  ab+\cdots + ab \end{array}

    i.e. when you expand out the brackets you can think of a \lambda \times \lambda square array of the terms ab.
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