[CherryCherryBoomBoom]

Hi. This weekend I plan on travelling from a station in my town in Greater London (Town A) to a station in a town outside Greater London (Town B). The journey involves a few interchanges, including a Tube journey in the middle. Obviously I can't use my Oyster Card the whole way so I'd need to buy one of those orange-edged paper train tickets to eventually reach Town B.

I was thinking of buying an off-peak return paper ticket that goes from Town A to Town B. But I'm not 100% sure if this ticket also includes Tube journeys as well? The fact that the National Rail website suggests this particular route with the Tube journey must mean yes, does it? And the machines any stations apart from my final destination station won't swallow up my ticket, will they?

Can people please confirm this to me please, or otherwise suggest a better alternative? That would be very helpful, thanks

[Dee Leigh]

(Original post by CherryCherryBoomBoom)
Hi. This weekend I plan on travelling from a station in my town in Greater London (Town A) to a station in a town outside Greater London (Town B). The journey involves a few interchanges, including a Tube journey in the middle. Obviously I can't use my Oyster Card the whole way so I'd need to buy one of those orange-edged paper train tickets to eventually reach Town B.

I was thinking of buying an off-peak return paper ticket that goes from Town A to Town B. But I'm not 100% sure if this ticket also includes Tube journeys as well? The fact that the National Rail website suggests this particular route with the Tube journey must mean yes, does it? And the machines any stations apart from my final destination station won't swallow up my ticket, will it?

Can people please confirm this to me please, or otherwise suggest a better alternative? That would be very helpful, thanks

If the national rail website suggests that route then no, barriers shouldn't swallow your ticket. If you are changing stations, then you may not need to put your ticket through the barriers, but it depends.

[CherryCherryBoomBoom]

(Original post by Dee Leigh)
If the national rail website suggests that route then no, barriers shouldn't swallow your ticket. If you are changing stations, then you may not need to put your ticket through the barriers, but it depends.

If the barriers are closed though, I'd have to put the ticket through anyway otherwise I can't get through? Anyway, thanks for your answer . I'm assuming it should be fine. It's just that I've only ever travelled the Tube on my Oyster and/or a Travelcard, so I wasn't sure with this type of ticket.

[InnerTemple]

Hi,

The ticket you purchase (from town A to town B) will cover you for the duration of your journey.

Since you are only interchanging at tube stations (and not leaving the 'system' altogether) you will not have to pass through any barriers on the underground network anyway.

You will probably be issued with two tickets - one outbound, the other return. Do not confuse them and make sure you retain the correct one for your return journey.

p.s - I love your avatar.

[CherryCherryBoomBoom]

(Original post by InnerTemple)
Hi,

The ticket you purchase (from town A to town B) will cover you for the duration of your journey.

Since you are only interchanging at tube stations (and not leaving the 'system' altogether) you will not have to pass through any barriers on the underground network anyway.

You will probably be issued with two tickets - one outbound, the other return. Do not confuse them and make sure you retain the correct one for your return journey.

p.s - I love your avatar.

What do you mean by this? Nearly every station I've been to in Central London requires passing through the barriers, whether that's to leave the station to the streets or just pass from the National Rail station to the Tube station. For example, when I travelled on the National Rail to London Bridge this morning, I had to exit the rail station through the barriers and then enter another set of barriers nearby in order to get on to the London Bridge Tube station.

Yeah, I already know about using two tickets for return - I was merely just querying whether it'd also cover my Tube journey

Thanks for the avatar comment

[Joinedup]

Yeah, when i've done it there's been something printed on the ticket about it being valid for tube journeys necessary to change between NR stations... And the barrier gives it back.

[CherryCherryBoomBoom]

Weird how the National Rail site is saying it'll take 47 minutes to get from London Bridge to Marylebone on the Underground, yet Google Maps says it'll only take 19 minutes . I think I'm more inclined to believe the latter tbh, especially since the two stations don't even look that far apart on the map anyway. **** being stuck in a noisy tunnel for three quarters of an hour, lol.

[InnerTemple]

(Original post by CherryCherryBoomBoom)
What do you mean by this? Nearly every station I've been to in Central London requires passing through the barriers, whether that's to leave the station to the streets or just pass from the National Rail station to the Tube station. For example, when I travelled on the National Rail to London Bridge this morning, I had to exit the rail station through the barriers and then enter another set of barriers nearby in order to get on to the London Bridge Tube station.

Yes, sorry I had managed to confuse myself; I meant that once you were on the underground network you would not have to pass through any barriers (except to exit).

As for journey time between the stations you list, it should be about 20-25 minutes if you take the jubilee and change at baker street.

[orionmoo]

When you buy the tickets, if its for a full length of your journey including interchanging at London stations that requires a tube journey, if the cost of the tube change is included in your ticket, the ticket will have a cross on it, under Validity.

[zaliack]

(Original post by CherryCherryBoomBoom)
Weird how the National Rail site is saying it'll take 47 minutes to get from London Bridge to Marylebone on the Underground, yet Google Maps says it'll only take 19 minutes . I think I'm more inclined to believe the latter tbh, especially since the two stations don't even look that far apart on the map anyway. **** being stuck in a noisy tunnel for three quarters of an hour, lol.

Don't forget to account for the occasional signalling failure, passenger taking ill on a preceding train, and maybe even trains derailing! I hate commuting by train

[CherryCherryBoomBoom]

(Original post by InnerTemple)
Yes, sorry I had managed to confuse myself; I meant that once you were on the underground network you would not have to pass through any barriers (except to exit).

As for journey time between the stations you list, it should be about 20-25 minutes if you take the jubilee and change at baker street.

Oh yeah, I get you now. No going barriers between tube stations, just on leaving and entering the Underground network . Thanks for the clarification

(Original post by zaliack)
Don't forget to account for the occasional signalling failure, passenger taking ill on a preceding train, and maybe even trains derailing! I hate commuting by train

True, I know different things can effect the length of a journey, but still 47 minutes vs. 19 minutes is a little ridiculous!

Well, I guess I'm not gonna know the true length of it till I actually travel on it this weekend...

[Anon420]

The funny thing is, I could never read the tube map.

I seriously rely on my phone app to get me about whilst in london, it tells me what lines I need / when to change etc... Sorry for off topic but just thought i'd share at this late hour :P

[Bubbles*de*Milo]

(Original post by CherryCherryBoomBoom)
Weird how the National Rail site is saying it'll take 47 minutes to get from London Bridge to Marylebone on the Underground, yet Google Maps says it'll only take 19 minutes . I think I'm more inclined to believe the latter tbh, especially since the two stations don't even look that far apart on the map anyway. **** being stuck in a noisy tunnel for three quarters of an hour, lol.

Definitely 19 mins.

Jubilee line from London Bridge to Baker Street, take around 15 MAX. Then one stop on the Bakerloo line to Marylebone.

47 minutes is stupid.

[CherryCherryBoomBoom]

(Original post by Anon420)
The funny thing is, I could never read the tube map.

I seriously rely on my phone app to get me about whilst in london, it tells me what lines I need / when to change etc... Sorry for off topic but just thought i'd share at this late hour :P

Really? The tube map is pretty simple to read imo, but I suppose it takes getting used to.

Just out of curiosity, would you find the geographical Tube map easier to read, or the standard Tube map?

(Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
Definitely 19 mins.

Jubilee line from London Bridge to Baker Street, take around 15 MAX. Then one stop on the Bakerloo line to Marylebone.

47 minutes is stupid.

Thanks a lot for the confirmation . That's actually quite a relief tbh, as I have long journey overall anyway and it's good to know it could be a little shorter than I'd first anticipated

[Anon420]

(Original post by CherryCherryBoomBoom)
Really? The tube map is pretty simple to read imo, but I suppose it takes getting used to.

Just out of curiosity, would you find the geographical Tube map easier to read, or the standard Tube map?



Thanks a lot for the confirmation . That's actually quite a relief tbh, as I have long journey overall anyway and it's good to know it could be a little shorter than I'd first anticipated

The standard one Spreading it out more doesn't help me

[jacketpotato]

(Original post by CherryCherryBoomBoom)
Weird how the National Rail site is saying it'll take 47 minutes to get from London Bridge to Marylebone on the Underground, yet Google Maps says it'll only take 19 minutes . I think I'm more inclined to believe the latter tbh, especially since the two stations don't even look that far apart on the map anyway. **** being stuck in a noisy tunnel for three quarters of an hour, lol.

It might take you 10mins to go from London Bridge rail to London Bridge tube, there is a small walk

[CherryCherryBoomBoom]

(Original post by jacketpotato)
It might take you 10mins to go from London Bridge rail to London Bridge tube, there is a small walk

I've been there several times, and it's not as long as 10 minutes! That's if I'm not diddy daddling anyway. If I briskly walk straight there without stopping (not even on the escalators) then it only takes me about 2 or 3 minutes.

[jacketpotato]

(Original post by CherryCherryBoomBoom)
I've been there several times, and it's not as long as 10 minutes! That's if I'm not diddy daddling anyway. If I briskly walk straight there without stopping (not even on the escalators) then it only takes me about 2 or 3 minutes.

Depends which rail platform, IIRC some are much further from the underground than others. You will probably go to the same one as you went before though.

[rockrunride]

Surely better to use Oyster until you get to the main line terminus (in your case Marylebone), then buy a ticket for the out of town train?

[CherryCherryBoomBoom]

(Original post by jacketpotato)
Depends which rail platform, IIRC some are much further from the underground than others. You will probably go to the same one as you went before though.

Oh, I think I get what you mean. There's the set of platforms where the train tracks end at that station, and then the set where the tracks go through the station. I usually enter on the through platforms, which I think are the ones that are a little closer to the Tube. Though, even from the terminal platforms, I don't think it should take as long as 10 minutes to walk the distance, though I've not used them in ages now so I admit I can't really remember.